TROPICUM 6,407 Posted November 20, 2017 https://twitter.com/ABC/status/932486613250256896 Charles Manson -- the man who masterminded one of the most heinous murder sprees in American history -- is dead ... this according to the sister of his famous victim. Debra Tate tells TMZ she received a call from the prison telling her Manson died 8:13 PM Sunday. 4 Quote ???, ????????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graham4anything 2,859 Posted November 20, 2017 donald trump moves to #1 on the list of most despised person alive but I would suggest this thread be moved to the members only part that people looking in can't read. 1 Quote Lana is our modern day Edith Piaf. Totally unique. a mixture of Brian WIlson Roy Orbison, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Elton & Bernie. Born to Die/Paradise is comparable to Elton's Captain Fantastic. All the records need to be listened whole. Waiting for a box set vinyl of all 400 songs not on any lp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Violet 18,977 Posted November 20, 2017 American Horror Story is really starting to predict some shit 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valerie 1,379 Posted November 20, 2017 donald trump moves to #1 on the list of most despised person alive but I would suggest this thread be moved to the members only part that people looking in can't read. Hold on,donald trump #1? so tonz of murderers,rapists,pedophiles,terrorists,anything to hate the most are not #1 yet Trump is? wow this world has no hope 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flowerbomb 65,593 Posted November 20, 2017 Old boy Charlie is finally dead. 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperMegaStan 9,985 Posted November 20, 2017 American Horror Story is really starting to predict some shit so Jill Stein 2020? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terrence Loves Me 72,693 Posted November 20, 2017 Good 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Standing Ovation 272 Posted November 20, 2017 'Bout time 4 Quote I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaMartine 1,201 Posted November 20, 2017 bye and rot in hell 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lad 8,801 Posted November 20, 2017 Hold on,donald trump #1? so tonz of murderers,rapists,pedophiles,terrorists,anything to hate the most are not #1 yet Trump is? wow this world has no hope Yes 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitschesque 9,882 Posted November 20, 2017 This bitch Lana namechecked Lou Reed and he died the day he was supposed to show up on the album and now Manson & Heroin 18 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelizzygrantera 0 Posted November 20, 2017 fucked up and i love it! wheres the biscuits to my tea! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanadeIrey 62,021 Posted November 20, 2017 I wonder if Lana has some sixth sense abilities. Think about; she’s mentioned Manson before but most recently was technically when the record came out, which was a few months ago, and now he’s gone. It happened to Lou Reed when she was supposed to work with him on Brooklyn Baby. It happened to David Bowie after she referenced both his brother for the name of the song and “ground control to major tom” in Terrence Loves You. This one’s a bit of a reach, but in 2015, Lana referenced Purple Rain on the Honeymoon instagram account, and 10 months later, Prince died. And now with Lana most recently referencing Manson in Heroin, he dies 4 months later. 18 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitschesque 9,882 Posted November 20, 2017 I wonder if Lana has some sixth sense abilities. Think about; she’s mentioned Manson before but most recently was technically when the record came out, which was a few months ago, and now he’s gone. It happened to Lou Reed when she was supposed to work with him on Brooklyn Baby. It happened to David Bowie after she referenced both his brother for the name of the song and “ground control to major tom” in Terrence Loves You. This one’s a bit of a reach, but in 2015, Lana referenced Purple Rain on the Honeymoon instagram account, and 10 months later, Prince died. And now with Lana most recently referencing Manson in Heroin, he dies 4 months later. 27 club who? We have enough material to start our own Lana Club 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Afterparty 3,025 Posted November 20, 2017 god bless america 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escapism 5,998 Posted November 20, 2017 I wonder if Lana has some sixth sense abilities. Think about; she’s mentioned Manson before but most recently was technically when the record came out, which was a few months ago, and now he’s gone. It happened to Lou Reed when she was supposed to work with him on Brooklyn Baby. It happened to David Bowie after she referenced both his brother for the name of the song and “ground control to major tom” in Terrence Loves You. This one’s a bit of a reach, but in 2015, Lana referenced Purple Rain on the Honeymoon instagram account, and 10 months later, Prince died. And now with Lana most recently referencing Manson in Heroin, he dies 4 months later. she should mention trump and pence next Anyways, good riddance. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salp 1,696 Posted November 20, 2017 about fucking time 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloudbusting 5,382 Posted November 20, 2017 An interesting comment I found (I’ll include the link if you want to read the whole thread https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/7e6myv/comment/dq2yki9?st=JA8FU2UD&sh=07f9abf7) I am far from a Manson apologist, but the guy was pretty doomed for a life of crime, mayhem and violence since birth. I suggest listening to the series about him on Last Podcast On The Left. It really paints a three dimensional portrait of the guy. He was born to a 16 year old sex worker, spent his childhood in a brothel. After that, he was sent to live with an his abusive religious aunt and her sadistic uncle and was systematically abused. He was berated for being a "sissy" and forced to wear girls clothes to his first day of school. After being passed back to his mother, she was terribly neglectful, famously selling the young boy for a pitcher of beer. He had a lonely childhood and was surrounded by crime, so naturally he began to partake in criminal activity himself, landing him in a reform school at the age of nine. He spent the next few years in and out of these types of schools, homes, and often prisions, and they were NOT healthy environments. It was at these reform schools where he was raped and beat by the fellow children while the adults in charge turned a blind eye and often encouraged it. When he tried to reconnect with his mother, she wanted nothing to do with him. Naturally, he started committing more serious crime such as rape, pimping, theft and fraud. This led him to spending most of his life in prison, effectively missing the free love hippie movement, and i'd speculate he was completely shocked when he was released from prison in '67 to see that the world was so much different than the 50's. Manson was sick, and those poor people would not have been murdered if it wasn't for him. He was an insane dude who somehow had a following of loyalists who were taking way too many drugs, listening a little too intently to the White Album, and were way too susceptible to the toxic environment that Manson and others had created on that ranch out in the desert. Manson's life was fascinating and tragic. He didn't stand a chance of being a normal person given the way he grew up, he could have tried to clean up his act, but his criminal tendencies seemed to ingrained into him as a person, so he doubled down on the evilness inside him. Things people don't usually know about Manson. - He was a short dude. 5'0'' if I am not mistaken. - He was a decent songwriter. He wrote a tune for the Beach Boys and was a "friend" of Dennis Wilson. [Here is one of my favorite Manson tunes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpx4ODP35VQ). - He was married at some point and [looked like a normal dude](https://brenfrie.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/manson28n-2-web.jpg). - His main objective out in the desert with his cult was to manufacture dune buggies and sell them. I wonder what could have been done to stop this man from co-opting the hippie commune movement and turning it into a dangerous cult. What do we do with people like Manson? I hope we have ways of helping children who are born into dangerous and criminal lives now. I don't mourn the loss of Manson. I mourn the loss of the person he could have been under different circumstances. I admire his music. He was a talented songwriter. He had a way with words. Look them up, they are quite good. What a wasted life. What a tragedy his darkness had a hand in the gruesome deaths of innocent people. Rest in peace Sharon Tate and her unborn baby. Rest in peace Abigail Folger. Rest in peace Leno and Rosemary LaBianca. Rest in peace Wojciech Frykowski. Rest in peace Steven Parent. Rest in peace Donald Shea. Rest in peace Gary Hinman. Make no mistake, Manson was a monster, but it was the way we used to treat (and possibly continue to treat) the disenfranchised people on the fringes of society that had a major part in creating that monster. The crazy motherfucker said it best: "My father is the jailhouse. My father is your system... I am only what you made me. I am only a reflection of you". 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loleetah 4,084 Posted November 20, 2017 I'm surprised he made it this long. By now I'm sure he's nicely settled into the deepest pit of Hell. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graham4anything 2,859 Posted November 20, 2017 @rocktab some asshole on reddit writes that crap and somehow someone finds it and believes it like fake news? everything about him was known, and taken into account when he was sentenced to life What about all the children and the parents of those he slaughtered. And yes, HE did it. Why the hell would you find that interesting? Monsters are fucking monsters. as trump's mother said "What did I create?" (and note trump never mentions his mother. trump is a monster. Yes, Monsters exist in real life @@Valerie- YES and all those things describe trump to a T. 2 Quote Lana is our modern day Edith Piaf. Totally unique. a mixture of Brian WIlson Roy Orbison, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Elton & Bernie. Born to Die/Paradise is comparable to Elton's Captain Fantastic. All the records need to be listened whole. Waiting for a box set vinyl of all 400 songs not on any lp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites