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#21 OFFLINE   WilshireBoulevard

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Posted 29 January 2020 - 03:34 PM

i know it's not that serious, (for myself anyway, i'm an otherwise healthy teen thankfully) but i'm a huge hypochondriac and i'm def scared of catching it

 

Oh same, I think it's entirely natural to be worried about it when it's on the news so much. It's reminding me of when swine flu was a thing and churches stopped having communal wine and handshaking (at least where I live). People always react more to new things - it's not like other diseases can't be spread those ways, but with the news and social media just stirring up trouble and fear-mongering, it's natural to be worried :) I hope you don't get too down about it though!


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Posted 29 January 2020 - 04:08 PM

Oh same, I think it's entirely natural to be worried about it when it's on the news so much. It's reminding me of when swine flu was a thing and churches stopped having communal wine and handshaking (at least where I live). People always react more to new things - it's not like other diseases can't be spread those ways, but with the news and social media just stirring up trouble and fear-mongering, it's natural to be worried :) I hope you don't get too down about it though!

thank you! i'm not too worried, but i'm def on the lookout


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Posted 30 January 2020 - 12:31 AM

So what do we think about the virus being a bioweapon and/or leaking from the lab located 20miles from where the outbreak started?
I’ve been reading some wild conspiracies online lol

 

 

I also thought about that too.  (Let me scare you for a little bit)

 

For those people living in the USA, they would be very surprised if they were to find out that the U.S. Armed Forces have a major

chemical+biological laboratory located near some of their biggest cities in America. New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington DC, Houston, etc. etc.

They usually keep every major KNOWN biological weapon stored in them - for study purposes they say. Small stuff they say.

Little things.

You know, like mustard gas, anthrax, botulism, tularemia, brucellosis, cholera, pneumonic plague,staphylococcal enterotoxin B, ricin, Bubonic plague and

a few hundred more biological weapons of mass destruction. I would not be surprised if they even keep some Zyklon-B stored in there ! (stuff captured from

the nazis after the Second World War.) 

Why they keep them?    - For future use as a biological weapon against an invading enemy. Its not lie, its the simple truth.

Even tho it was all prohibited after World War One. All countries continue to keep vast amounts of all types of deadly virus in Army bases for an eventual attack

on the enemy, whomever "the enemy" they may be. 

It´s a sick world, I know, I know.  :facepalm:

 

Here is an interesting story which some people may not know.

Did you know that England was just about to bomb Berlin during 1945 with chemical weapons, if Hitler did not surrender?

Its true, they invented a new type of biological weapon called anthrax... supposedly "to kill off all cattle in Germany and bring its people to starvation".

But this of course, would also kill alot of people - but what mattered to Winston Churchill was to stop the war.

They made over 5 million of these things, but they never used it, because they knew that Germany also had their own inventions for new types of

deadly Toxins. No, it was not "Zyklon-B", that was a rat pesticide (later used in concentration camps) but more poisonous stuff like Sarin, Tabun, and Soman.

Those mad-scientists had made over a million+ tons of that stuff by the end of WW2, to be used against the Allied soldiers and European cities.   :facepalm:   

It is totally insane !

 

Back to the present day....

Some day , some things may go wrong in those ARMY laboratories and some poison may escape into the air.

The scenario would be like what you see in Horror films,  what you often see in movies which deal with deadly toxins.

Some of those Toxins have no cure.

 

Enjoy the Movie Trailers

 

 


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Posted 30 January 2020 - 01:03 AM

i'd try not to worry too much - lots of people have recovered, it's mainly babies, older people and people with serious pre-existing health conditions that will be badly affected. of course that's awful too, but as many as 61,000 people die from the regular flu each year and nobody worries too much about that. just keep washing your hands as much as you can, take your vitamins and drink plenty of water  :)

 

As much as this is true, we should all be taking further measures, more than we usually do when there's regular colds going round. Even if you don't die or get super super ill, you could spread it to someone who does die.

When the swine flu was going around in 2009/10? I knew of two perfectly healthy young adults that died from it. So if I got the coronovirus, as a healthy young adult, id still be really worried. 

I guess I just know of a lot of people who have died from the regular flu too .my mum and sister worked at a special school where the kids will actually die from a regular cold cold as a lot of them have had weak immune systems from birth, and one of their favourite students did die. And it was really hard on the staff after that, like they all knew who was sick at the time and most likely passed it to this poor kid (he was 11), but we're trying not to blame anyone. 

I also don't visit my grandparents when I'm sick or have recently been sick because I know they could possibly die if they got sick at their age too.

I would love everyone to actually get used to really good hygiene because of this, rather than just go on as normal without a care. We should all get used to it. Not saying everyone is absolutely shit at it currently, but we all need to take responsibility because a time will come when all of our lives actually depend on it.  :hdu:


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 03:52 AM

Here are the latest updates:
 
The numbers: In China, 213 people have died and there are at least 9,692 confirmed cases in the country -- far exceeding 
the number of worldwide SARS cases during the deadly 2003 outbreak.
 
 
Health emergency: World Health Organization has declared coronavirus a public health emergency of international concern.
 
 
Global spread: Outside mainland China, more than 100 cases have been reported in 22 other countries and territories. 
Italy, the Philippines and India have confirmed their first cases.
 
 
Human-to-human transmission: US reported its first case of person-to-person transmission outside of China. 
There is a similar case in Germany and suspected in Japan.
 
 
Evacuations: The US, Japan and South Korea have already retrieved some of their citizens from Wuhan. 
Other countries such as Australia, Canada, France and the UK are also preparing evacuation plans for their 
citizens in the city.
 
 
Worldwide reaction: Italy is stopping air traffic with China, Russia is closing its far-east border with China, 
Trinidad and Tobago is imposing a 14-day travel restriction on travelers from China, and more airlines are 
suspending flights to and from mainland China.
 
Ghost towns: Some 60 million people in Hubei province have endured more than a week under lockdown. 
Scenes from megacities across China show usually bustling urban centers looking like ghost towns.
 
 
Racism against Chinese communities: Canada's Chief Public Health Officer Theresa Tam is urging people to 
stop acts of racism against people of Chinese and Asian descent due to the coronavirus outbreak.
 
............................................................
 
Meanwhile in the USA...
 
There's another virus that has infected 15 million Americans across the country and killed more than 8,200 people
this season alone.
It's not a new pandemic -- it's influenza.

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 07:05 AM

So I was doing some personal research this morning after the WHO update.
I fell down the rabbit hole of what most people call "conspiracy" and "fear mongering" but it seems for real.
Like the videos of people just lying dead on the street in Wuhan, nurses crying and shouting that they can't take it anymore because so many are dying. Nurses saying over recorded phone calls that the deaths are over 100,000 but it's being covered up, and that the government has not been helping with lack of supplies or anything... Idk. 10,000  dead I could believe. But maybe not 100,000 without Wuhans citizens actually realising.
The spread rate is so high now that the reported cases alone are growing exponentially.
And we all know that there are so many more cases than what is being detected. It's probably more than triple.


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 07:25 AM

So I was doing some personal research this morning after the WHO update.
I fell down the rabbit hole of what most people call "conspiracy" and "fear mongering" but it seems for real.
Like the videos of people just lying dead on the street in Wuhan, nurses crying and shouting that they can't take it anymore because so many are dying. Nurses saying over recorded phone calls that the deaths are over 100,000 but it's being covered up, and that the government has not been helping with lack of supplies or anything... Idk. 10,000  dead I could believe. But maybe not 100,000 without Wuhans citizens actually realising.
The spread rate is so high now that the reported cases alone are growing exponentially.
And we all know that there are so many more cases than what is being detected. It's probably more than triple.

 

Were the videos with subtitles or could you understand what they were saying? I'm not discounting you, but it's important to remember that bad faith actors get kicks from spreading yellow peril ideas. Even mainstream media often publishes outlandish things as facts, citing websites / articles that don't source their information. 

 

Also kind of off-topic but for any Americans, is the flu vaccination free there?


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 07:37 AM

Were the videos with subtitles or could you understand what they were saying? I'm not discounting you, but it's important to remember that bad faith actors get kicks from spreading yellow peril ideas. Even mainstream media often publishes outlandish things as facts, citing websites / articles that don't source their information. 

 

Also kind of off-topic but for any Americans, is the flu vaccination free there?

 

Yeah this is why I'm still on the edge about it, cause it was subtitled videos, but they are the same videos that were taken down from the original posters. 

I'm just wondering why we haven't seen more footage from inside hospitals treating patients, showing that it is calm and that most patients are okay. 

 

I'm not sure about America but you can usually get it free in Australia. 


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 07:39 AM

Re: flu vaccine, I’m honestly not sure. If it isn’t then my (mom’s) insurance covered mine
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Posted 31 January 2020 - 04:30 PM

So I was doing some personal research this morning after the WHO update.
I fell down the rabbit hole of what most people call "conspiracy" and "fear mongering" but it seems for real.
Like the videos of people just lying dead on the street in Wuhan, nurses crying and shouting that they can't take it anymore because so many are dying. Nurses saying over recorded phone calls that the deaths are over 100,000 but it's being covered up, and that the government has not been helping with lack of supplies or anything... Idk. 10,000  dead I could believe. But maybe not 100,000 without Wuhans citizens actually realising.
The spread rate is so high now that the reported cases alone are growing exponentially.
And we all know that there are so many more cases than what is being detected. It's probably more than triple.

 

 

I also believe that the death toll is much higher than is being reported. But I like to keep calm and rationalized my thoughts on

these matters, instead of going into a panic.

I believe this is also what the Chinese government is doing , and not reporting the full truth - not to cause a massive panic 

among its citizens. They have the worlds largest population (or is it India now?).  Same thing is happening with other countries and

their goverments. You must control peoples fears, otherwise its an all out anarchy. we dont want that - we dont need that sort

of scenario.  Because when anarchy reigns free, then you have a "Mad Max" film scenario !  Yeah, total chaos.

 

As usual with the internet these days, all sorts of false news and "conspiracy" theories reign free. There are some really crazy people out there.

I may be a little crazy myself too, but I am usually joking most of the time. :P    I dont like to spread false news and conspiracy stuff. I like

to think things through and learn as much as I can to be safe. My motto is "Be smart -. Be safe"

We all must research all available information and then piece the puzzle pieces together, that is what I usually do.  Try to keep cool and calm,

and try to learn as much as possible what YOU can do to keep yourself safe.

 

About that "Flu Vaccine" ....

My Mom last winter had a bad case of the flu and kept coughing for almost 3 months. It was pretty annoying. She is 72 now and is usually in good resonable health. 

She just caught a cold and kept coughing all the time. She took all sorts of pills and drank teas in hopes of getting rid of the cold, but 

nothing was happening. I told her to go get that Free Flu vaccine, because I don´t want to lose her. 

She decided to get that Flu vaccine and the coughing was gone. Soon after she felt much better.

Thank God for that ! She has been doing fine since then.


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 05:09 PM

now that it's hit the UK it does make me a tad more anxious, but i do think that ultimately things will turn out okay.

 

keep your hands washed, and definitely don't eat or rub your eyes with unclean hands. this virus essentially causes pneumonia, so it's best to keep your immune system as well boosted as you can through a good diet and vitamin supplements; some people have died from this virus, but many have recovered, even without any cure or antibiotics. the vast majority of those who sadly passed away were older or already in poor health. personally my immune system is terrible (i have anaemia, a poor diet because of my job, i'm an alcoholic so i have very little vitamin B6 in my system and i'm deeply prone to stress) so i'm making an extra effort now to keep my vitals up, just in case :) for most of us, our bodies should be able to fight this thing. that's if we even get it, which most of us won't - but in the unlikely event that we do it doesn't need to be devastating, our bodies will be doing a lot of work to get rid of it so it might seem scary but with the support of good healthcare systems that many of us have and a little pre-planning, it shouldn't be so scary.

 

some good vitamins for protecting and boosting your immune system include:

 

  • Vitamin C - found in citrus fruits, strawberries, spinach, kale and others
  • Vitamin E - found in lots of nuts (including almonds, peanuts, etc) and spinach and broccoli
  • Vitamin B6 - found in bananas, lean chicken breast, chickpeas and others

and of course keep your iron up too if possible! there are tonnes of supplements out there for those of us who don't get enough vitamins thru our food.

 

also... at risk of sounding like a crazy conspiracy-driven freak, it's kinda important to remember that january is a very slow news month and pandemics are incredible clickbait. i'm not downplaying the severity of this virus and i think it's something we absolutely should be paying attention to, but also remember that part of the reason news outlets are reporting on this so much is because it makes gripping news, which leads to engagement and is basically guaranteed money. i've seen some utterly ridiculous headlines blowing things way out of proportion for the sake of clickbait, but of course i've also seen a number of rational, balanced news reports too, so it's good to differentiate while also being aware of how the news industry works.

 

ironically though, i am about to quote from a news outlet  :flop: i read this in the guardian and it put things into perspective for me:

 

"We don’t yet know how dangerous the new coronavirus is, and we won’t know until more data comes in. The 170 deaths from about 7,700 reported cases means the mortality rate is around 2%. However, this is likely to be an overestimate since many more people are likely to have been infected by the virus but not suffered severe enough symptoms to attend hospital, and so have not been counted. For comparison, seasonal flu typically has a mortality rate below 1% and is thought to cause about 400,000 deaths each year globally."

 

i thought that was a really succinct way of describing the current state of things, though we don't know exactly the mortality rate yet as it's not been long enough.

 

clearly i'm no expert but i do believe that many countries are adequately prepared to deal with this situation and any cases as and when they come. we're learning more every day and the WHO declaring this an emergency means there will be more funding and more attention paid to this situation. don't panic, just keep an eye on your own health. ring up your doctors for an over-the-phone appointment if you're feeling unwell but worried about going outside, or ring 111 if you're in the UK.

 

stay safe everyone  :kiss:


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 05:17 PM

I'm not scared? Like, at all

 

Idk it just seems so stupid to me. It's not deadly, people are recovering, like... chill. 


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 05:46 PM

i am starting this off by saying im not rly worried or anything but the US human to human transmission happened quite close to me :rip:


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 05:47 PM

I'm not scared? Like, at all

 

Idk it just seems so stupid to me. It's not deadly, people are recovering, like... chill. 

i'm not too stressed either tbh, i think the main thing that worries people is how new it is and how we won't know for another roughly 14 days just how bad it's actually gonna be. i think it'll work out okay tho, i lived thru swine flu and ebola so...


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 05:49 PM

Being in Chicago, it is a little weird that it's technically so close. I don't think it'll end up being a worldwide problem in a few months, but it's good that it's making people more aware of their health and probably will stop other more common things from being spread due to fear (at least I hope).


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 06:22 PM

i'm not too stressed either tbh, i think the main thing that worries people is how new it is and how we won't know for another roughly 14 days just how bad it's actually gonna be. i think it'll work out okay tho, i lived thru swine flu and ebola so...

 

You lived thru Ebola ?

Gosh ! How did that happen?

From what I know about it, in Africa,  it´s still killing alot of people and its very dificult to stop it, but at least it has not spread to being a worldwide epidemic.

 

Say What !?

Now this Coronathing has spread to Chicago ?  :facepalm:


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 07:04 PM

 it's kinda important to remember that january is a very slow news month and pandemics are incredible clickbait. i'm not downplaying the severity of this virus and i think it's something we absolutely should be paying attention to, but also remember that part of the reason news outlets are reporting on this so much is because it makes gripping news, which leads to engagement and is basically guaranteed money. i've seen some utterly ridiculous headlines blowing things way out of proportion for the sake of clickbait, but of course i've also seen a number of rational, balanced news reports too, so it's good to differentiate while also being aware of how the news industry works.

that's what my mum's saying. i don't know, it's really scary though but i have faith in my immune system  :legend:

 

 

in the past few days several universities sent out mass emails to students about prevention, and it included stuff like "wash your hands after using public transportation and after going the bathroom" and i was like????? do we seriously have to tell grown adults to do that???  but at the same time i know that unfortunately yes, we do... there are many who don't do it  :facepalm:


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Posted 02 February 2020 - 09:22 PM

So from what I heard on BBC news is that you're only at risk if you have underlying health problems, your elderly or an infant.

I wish news sites and channels were more responsible when reporting such things rather than frighten the general public.

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 09:32 PM

I know what you mean. The term "Responsible" does not fit the last 10 years of our civilization.

Everyone has run amok. No morals and no responsibility.

Everyone from the Presidency+Politics, to the internet, to peoples overall behaviour, news, etc. etc.

 

No one is still unsure about this new virus, but they know its deadly.

Who is more inmune and who is not ?  Somewhere on the news I saw on tv, they said a person from the Wuhan region who was 

infected (but not sick) visited their families and passed on the virus to other family members. They got sick but the person was not sick.

Its very strange. I don´t know what to believe any more.

 

The death toll has now risen to over 300+ people and more than 14,000 people have been infected.

This news being published by the BBC News

https://www.bbc.com/...d-asia-51345855


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Posted 02 February 2020 - 10:18 PM

It does seem like every 2 or 3 years there is a month where a virus is overhyped and talked about for weeks then nobody mentions it again, swine flu, bird flu, ebola, this probably been a couple more.


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