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This is a bit more complicated, but what I think happened was:
Lana originally did Roses with Chris Braide in 2010 (that version remains unleaked), then in 2011 it was reworked with Theophilus London, but I do not know if it was with Lana's involvement or not, because I suspect the rework was meant for pitching and not for Born to Die. That's why it ended up with Cheryl. That was still the time when Lana's scrapped material was being thrown around especially since she was slowly getting hype in the music industry. For example, I don't know if this is known, but Rita Ora recorded Live or Die in 2012

oh I might need this later, could you link me to some interview/source that says Paul Epworth joined UV sessions?

There isn't any weird twist surrounding that song, but Jeez I feel like it has tons of mixes by tons of people and all sound shit and her vocals sound like she recorded them with a casio calculator. I just have no desire to piece them together for some timeline/purpose.
 
Cult Leader and Dragonslayer, are both real 2013 Rick produced, Kieron engineered songs

Chris is just a mastering engineer, this is a very final step of the song's mixing and he only does final adjustments to prepare finished songs to deliver correct mixes as every service/media - iTunes, Streaming, CDs, Vinyls has different requirements. This isn't a step that any song that isn't meant to be released even goes through.

It's coming
 
Yeah I don't think it was touched, just in consideration

Yes! Zach Dawes, it was made at the same time as original Thunder and as far as I remember Lana considered it for BB as well

Noo, these Chris Braide reworks were definitely done independently from Lana as well

There is something that's been bugging me that I'm surprised nobody picked up before, but the French Restaurant song that leaked might not be an original version of it, but a piano rework Chris Braide did in 2021 alongside new version of Damn You that leaked as "alternate final". So I'm pretty confident a real 2011 version of French Restaurant with original production exists as well.

I don't think anything is ever truly deleted

I don't think she did, which is interesting, cause I believe she was also invited to that Liv listening party where they previewed all the new material (that was ultimately scrapped)

This, friendly reminder I dislike entirety of Chemtrails and its sound.
Don't ask me about opinions/sounds/feelings on songs you haven't heard, it's just pointless.

My first post here was that at the end of the day I'm not in Lana's head and I think that's the best answer to questions like that

Lana is unpredictable I'd personally just hope we get the album of unreleased material one day and all 3 in their true final glory will appear there and we will like them best of all versions

At the end of the day, you would indeed not have these songs at all and what's even crazier - these versions would never even exist  So it's all just bittersweet. I'm mostly mad, cause I'd want them in HQ and well, we have to live with the shitty mp3s forever 

Seems like that's a wrap for now! I think I said everything essential that I wanted to say. Hope this brought some closure to those who were seeking it or that at least you learnt something interesting. It was fun and maybe one day I will come back to talk more, maybe in upcoming years more interesting stuff to talk about will surface as well. Thanks for joining and being all nice and respectful. And remember, Lana's word is always above me or any of us, she is the artist and the visionary and none of us other than her will fully know the truth about all those mysterious things.
 
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Yeah I have countless sheets of notes that I compiled through the years to have it all somewhat organized

She only considered actual real Fine China mix by Rick Nowels for BB

Agree personally, but Lana's artistic integrity should be above all

Oh I thought that was the version that leaked, that's the one I was talking about that was definitely made in 2016.
 
Either way the difference is that John Fortis is the actual producer of the track anyway so this was something he was able to do. Patrick Warren is not, his mixes are not Lana's or Rick's visions

No

Yes, California, whoever leaked that - fucked up

Some general answers from past pages:
 
Pretty sure that technically nothing is stopping them from releasing Is This Happiness and Flipside on streaming anymore, next time Lana goes on a longer live chat, ask her for that. Speaking of which though, Flipside was never really considered for UV. It was recorded as a rough one day demo at Nightbird and they pretty much just decided to mix it and release like that. Good for us, cool song that would have been lost.

Rock Candy Sweet seems to just be a phrase Lana liked, it seems to be originally stemming from a song called Loved You Then Loved You Now she did with Jack, but later also used it in Watercolor Eyes, but one is not a rework of another or anything. Watercolor Eyes is a song that can be very much considered a BB outtake though, but I'm 99% sure it wasn't made yet when Lana announced the former Rock Candy Sweet album.
 

Is it true that the entire chorus of Your Girl is just sung by Patrick Warren and edited to sound like Lana, cause his acapella was incomplete?

The only real versions of Yes to Heaven you have are James Ford, that's still UV and STINT that's already for HM.
You have no real versions of Fine China and Your Girl. The Patrick Warren mixes of course contain real parts/stems of the demos, but they are also missing many as well as they got filled by new instruments that Patrick added himself for what was missing. It's really crazy that he went with that effort, but it's not unheard of and this opens the door to another thing:
 
While I don't know about EMGHW or Resistance, Be My Daddy is the exact same case. John Fortis got contacted, probably in similar manner, for the songs they made and since he had no good final version of Be My Daddy he quickly PRODUCED new version himself from the available session in hopes of being picked by Lana for release. So the Be My Daddy version that leaked was also in fact made in 2016.