Divisive Princess

you're not wanted here

you're not wanted here

you're not wanted here

I thought a Halsey track sounded kinda Lana-ish before Halsey even sang it or was even a thing. #HipsterAlert

No seriously.

Following my own advice to "Keep an Eye on the 'Industry Players'", I follow a lot of music industry accounts on Soundcloud, including one for TaP mgmt, Lana's manager Ben Mawson's company that manages Lana as well as OTTR, TIWMUG, and G&M co-writer Tim Larcombe. So a couple years ago a set labeled "Tim Larcombe" popped up on there which included two instrumental tracks labeled "BT I" and "BT II", "BT" presumably standing for "backing track", which sounded vaguely Lana-esque so I saved them in case they ended up being used on an album. (I'm not exactly sure when they appeared. This archive.org snapshot indicates they were uploaded in October 2012, but I'm not sure they were public that early. I saved them in September 2013, but I know I found them awhile before I got around to ripping them.) Anyway, fast forward to this morning when I was listening to Halsey in order to defend her detractors from a more educated position when I listened to "Strange Love" and experienced some major déjà vu. I recognized the backing track instantly as "BT I". Sure enough, Tim Larcombe is indeed the producer of "Strange Love":


Listen to a copy of "BT I" (click on the Soundcloud link below it if the embedded stream doesn't work) that I uploaded as a private track in April 2014 to show to @@Monicker, who deemed it "pretty uninspired":





I don't think Halsey is a complete ripoff of Lana; she's extremely derivative of her contemporaries in general, one of them being Lana. Her voice doesn't sound at all like Lana. Only a couple songs sound like Lana ripoffs ("New Americana" being the most blatant well-documented example). But she occupies a lyrical universe that overlaps a lot with Lana's. However, being a documented fan of Lana with a song title the same as one of Lana's with a backing track possibly even written for Lana by a producer that worked with Lana and has the same management as Lana... I know some of that's probably coincidence, but it's all just a little too much. And it's easy to imagine her going, "OMG, you worked with Lana? OMG, Can I work with you? OMG, you've got a backing track you wrote for Lana that she didn't use? OMG, can I use it? Great! I'll name it after one of her unreleased tracks!" 

I just said something about this in Lanalysis, but I have to wonder if the Lana and Ray lyric has to do with this: https://angiescreams.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/lana-and-ray/ (a blog post from her ex-bf Arthur). I can't really connect him to the song, but obviously it has to be at least a little more than a coincidence. 

This just occurred to me out of nowhere and it's pretty lame but what if Honeymoon is Lana fighting a dual-personality/persona? Like Lana Del Rey vs Elizabeth Grant? The fact that she has two instagrams made me think of this, as well as the two definitive genres that we can expect on the album. 
 
Also the line "You are what you are. I don't matter to anyone" in TLY makes me think of Elizabeth singing to Lana, maybe? And how she listens to the radio to hear herself again and how she lost herself when Lana faded (or more like, will possibly one day fade) into obscurity? Or maybe it's alluding to how Lizzy faded into obscurity. 

Fans should actually support their favourite artist by buying the singles, streaming the music and buying the album when it comes out. That is our job. If you don't want to, there are some real try-hard gimmicks releasing music right now like Halsey. Go and support her if you want that big pop gesture moment and all the promo.

Can you imagine a song titled Video Games to sound like a slow beautiful ballad ? I would never. One thing I learned from Lana is never judge a song by its name 

This is very interesting because she said in an interview that she wrote VG about World of Warcraft and she said in a different interview that it's her least favorite video game because it consumes every man in her life.

It's too bad the year is wrong because this would be the perfect dress for Lana  
 

I just said something about this in Lanalysis, but I have to wonder if the Lana and Ray lyric has to do with this: https://angiescreams.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/lana-and-ray/ (a blog post from her ex-bf Arthur). I can't really connect him to the song, but obviously it has to be at least a little more than a coincidence. 

I can't even stand looking at this thread anymore. People will literally complain about anything and everything. She'll post something on instagram and I'll be like 'aw that's cute and exciting' and I'll get on lb and people are griping (and I'm not talking about everyone, obviously). It's very annoying and it makes coming on here a huge bummer. People can't just be happy in all the news and content we've gotten in a really short amount of time, they have to pick apart everything. Maybe I'm a 'delusional fan', but I don't always want to be picky about trivial things.

I was unaware that people even felt that way about BTD. I still consider it her most iconic album yet.

I just said something about this in Lanalysis, but I have to wonder if the Lana and Ray lyric has to do with this: https://angiescreams.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/lana-and-ray/ (a blog post from her ex-bf Arthur). I can't really connect him to the song, but obviously it has to be at least a little more than a coincidence. 

I just said something about this in Lanalysis, but I have to wonder if the Lana and Ray lyric has to do with this: https://angiescreams.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/lana-and-ray/ (a blog post from her ex-bf Arthur). I can't really connect him to the song, but obviously it has to be at least a little more than a coincidence. 

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finally some...positivity 
 

This is happening again?  :facepalm:     Such a big fucking mess. Nothing is happening at all. What release date? Lana's such a liar boo hoo 

I like this idea. I love AKA!!!!! I hope there are more references back to it like with HBTB!

Why are like all the new members so confrontational and aggressive?? Like you know you can get your opinion across in a discussion without trying to act all "sassy" or whatever?

It's too bad the year is wrong because this would be the perfect dress for Lana  
 

It's too bad the year is wrong because this would be the perfect dress for Lana  
 

It's too bad the year is wrong because this would be the perfect dress for Lana  
 

It's too bad the year is wrong because this would be the perfect dress for Lana  
 

It's too bad the year is wrong because this would be the perfect dress for Lana  
 

It's too bad the year is wrong because this would be the perfect dress for Lana