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  1. sodaserialkiller liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I don’t think we know who she is anymore. After the ‘Plain Jane’ Billboard cover last year as well as the ‘Plain Jane’ photo of her sitting by the side of the highway, she’s clearly negatively reacting to her former glamorous image and saying, “I’m not that.”
     
    Keep in mind that she’s been roundly criticized by the Left, by members of her own party, many of whom are feminists against the glamorization of women, which they consider a male plot to keep women oppressed.
     
    Personally, I think she’s going through an identity crisis, or coming out of one, which is to be expected, perhaps, for someone who has assumed numerous identities over the last ten years or so, each with its own set of expectations.
     
    That’s why the NFR cover art will tell us a lot—not necessarily who she is or ‘ really is,’ but at least how she is projecting herself to the world now.
  2. hornymoon liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I don’t think we know who she is anymore. After the ‘Plain Jane’ Billboard cover last year as well as the ‘Plain Jane’ photo of her sitting by the side of the highway, she’s clearly negatively reacting to her former glamorous image and saying, “I’m not that.”
     
    Keep in mind that she’s been roundly criticized by the Left, by members of her own party, many of whom are feminists against the glamorization of women, which they consider a male plot to keep women oppressed.
     
    Personally, I think she’s going through an identity crisis, or coming out of one, which is to be expected, perhaps, for someone who has assumed numerous identities over the last ten years or so, each with its own set of expectations.
     
    That’s why the NFR cover art will tell us a lot—not necessarily who she is or ‘ really is,’ but at least how she is projecting herself to the world now.
  3. DLT liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I don’t think we know who she is anymore. After the ‘Plain Jane’ Billboard cover last year as well as the ‘Plain Jane’ photo of her sitting by the side of the highway, she’s clearly negatively reacting to her former glamorous image and saying, “I’m not that.”
     
    Keep in mind that she’s been roundly criticized by the Left, by members of her own party, many of whom are feminists against the glamorization of women, which they consider a male plot to keep women oppressed.
     
    Personally, I think she’s going through an identity crisis, or coming out of one, which is to be expected, perhaps, for someone who has assumed numerous identities over the last ten years or so, each with its own set of expectations.
     
    That’s why the NFR cover art will tell us a lot—not necessarily who she is or ‘ really is,’ but at least how she is projecting herself to the world now.
  4. pawn shop blues liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I don’t think we know who she is anymore. After the ‘Plain Jane’ Billboard cover last year as well as the ‘Plain Jane’ photo of her sitting by the side of the highway, she’s clearly negatively reacting to her former glamorous image and saying, “I’m not that.”
     
    Keep in mind that she’s been roundly criticized by the Left, by members of her own party, many of whom are feminists against the glamorization of women, which they consider a male plot to keep women oppressed.
     
    Personally, I think she’s going through an identity crisis, or coming out of one, which is to be expected, perhaps, for someone who has assumed numerous identities over the last ten years or so, each with its own set of expectations.
     
    That’s why the NFR cover art will tell us a lot—not necessarily who she is or ‘ really is,’ but at least how she is projecting herself to the world now.
  5. GeminiLanaFan liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I don’t think we know who she is anymore. After the ‘Plain Jane’ Billboard cover last year as well as the ‘Plain Jane’ photo of her sitting by the side of the highway, she’s clearly negatively reacting to her former glamorous image and saying, “I’m not that.”
     
    Keep in mind that she’s been roundly criticized by the Left, by members of her own party, many of whom are feminists against the glamorization of women, which they consider a male plot to keep women oppressed.
     
    Personally, I think she’s going through an identity crisis, or coming out of one, which is to be expected, perhaps, for someone who has assumed numerous identities over the last ten years or so, each with its own set of expectations.
     
    That’s why the NFR cover art will tell us a lot—not necessarily who she is or ‘ really is,’ but at least how she is projecting herself to the world now.
  6. BBMbby liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I don’t think we know who she is anymore. After the ‘Plain Jane’ Billboard cover last year as well as the ‘Plain Jane’ photo of her sitting by the side of the highway, she’s clearly negatively reacting to her former glamorous image and saying, “I’m not that.”
     
    Keep in mind that she’s been roundly criticized by the Left, by members of her own party, many of whom are feminists against the glamorization of women, which they consider a male plot to keep women oppressed.
     
    Personally, I think she’s going through an identity crisis, or coming out of one, which is to be expected, perhaps, for someone who has assumed numerous identities over the last ten years or so, each with its own set of expectations.
     
    That’s why the NFR cover art will tell us a lot—not necessarily who she is or ‘ really is,’ but at least how she is projecting herself to the world now.
  7. ivy liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I don’t think we know who she is anymore. After the ‘Plain Jane’ Billboard cover last year as well as the ‘Plain Jane’ photo of her sitting by the side of the highway, she’s clearly negatively reacting to her former glamorous image and saying, “I’m not that.”
     
    Keep in mind that she’s been roundly criticized by the Left, by members of her own party, many of whom are feminists against the glamorization of women, which they consider a male plot to keep women oppressed.
     
    Personally, I think she’s going through an identity crisis, or coming out of one, which is to be expected, perhaps, for someone who has assumed numerous identities over the last ten years or so, each with its own set of expectations.
     
    That’s why the NFR cover art will tell us a lot—not necessarily who she is or ‘ really is,’ but at least how she is projecting herself to the world now.
  8. Vertimus liked a post in a topic by LanaFlowers in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    sleep paralysis but it's lana hooked on a matcha tea IV whispering "coming soon" in a loop
  9. Elina liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   

    I would really like to hear more trip-hoppish BTD/Paradise-style production and arrangements for her current material. It was her best sound, I think.
  10. honeycookie liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   

    I would really like to hear more trip-hoppish BTD/Paradise-style production and arrangements for her current material. It was her best sound, I think.
  11. ArtDecoDelRey liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Which suggests to me that it hasn’t been worth frustrating her fans for, or needlessly holding up the new record for.
     
    I personally believe that when she announced it in September of last year, she had it written or almost completely written, and had taken the accompanying photos, but had no publisher, and believed by announcing it she would begin a bidding war, one which either never materialized or which came to nothing after publishers reviewed the content.
     
    I’m of course not sure of the number of copies, but I remember seeing the number 500 somewhere in the last four months.
     
    It’s possible that it will be physically beautiful and almost a kind of art object in itself, and thus a sort of folk art piece.
     
    I wish it the best as a project, but wish she would have just released NFR as soon as it was completed and not announced the poetry book until later. Naturally, it’s easy to see how she would have wanted them to be released simultaneously, especially if the book were commercially published. But such things take a lot of time and planning by experienced business professionals from often two companies working together, in this case Interscope and the publisher.
     
    Silence from her and her team for 18 to 24 months or so and then an announcement of both the book and record and a release date would have been perfect.
  12. Sugar Venom liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    If she successfully hypes up and manipulates the release of the poetry book, if she manages to create a false sense of urgency about it and a "you're no one in L.A. unless you've got an original copy" vibe, at least among a certain subculture of hipsters, then some people might care about it.
     
    But the idea that there are tsunamis of people in L.A. and all across America who are clamoring for the poetry book is absurd. Even here on this Stan site, there hasn't been much enthusiasm for it or the individual poems she's released so far. 
     
    She can say, "it's self-published and each copy is individually bound by me, each copy is signed and one-of-a-kind, it's a limited edition, a limited run, it will be a collector's item," and some people will be affected by that, but that doesn't change the fact that for most, the content will be almost worthless in itself, except that LDR wrote it. 
  13. sirensXsilence liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Which suggests to me that it hasn’t been worth frustrating her fans for, or needlessly holding up the new record for.
     
    I personally believe that when she announced it in September of last year, she had it written or almost completely written, and had taken the accompanying photos, but had no publisher, and believed by announcing it she would begin a bidding war, one which either never materialized or which came to nothing after publishers reviewed the content.
     
    I’m of course not sure of the number of copies, but I remember seeing the number 500 somewhere in the last four months.
     
    It’s possible that it will be physically beautiful and almost a kind of art object in itself, and thus a sort of folk art piece.
     
    I wish it the best as a project, but wish she would have just released NFR as soon as it was completed and not announced the poetry book until later. Naturally, it’s easy to see how she would have wanted them to be released simultaneously, especially if the book were commercially published. But such things take a lot of time and planning by experienced business professionals from often two companies working together, in this case Interscope and the publisher.
     
    Silence from her and her team for 18 to 24 months or so and then an announcement of both the book and record and a release date would have been perfect.
  14. sirensXsilence liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    If she successfully hypes up and manipulates the release of the poetry book, if she manages to create a false sense of urgency about it and a "you're no one in L.A. unless you've got an original copy" vibe, at least among a certain subculture of hipsters, then some people might care about it.
     
    But the idea that there are tsunamis of people in L.A. and all across America who are clamoring for the poetry book is absurd. Even here on this Stan site, there hasn't been much enthusiasm for it or the individual poems she's released so far. 
     
    She can say, "it's self-published and each copy is individually bound by me, each copy is signed and one-of-a-kind, it's a limited edition, a limited run, it will be a collector's item," and some people will be affected by that, but that doesn't change the fact that for most, the content will be almost worthless in itself, except that LDR wrote it. 
  15. 13beachess liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   

    I would really like to hear more trip-hoppish BTD/Paradise-style production and arrangements for her current material. It was her best sound, I think.
  16. Vertimus liked a post in a topic by 13beachess in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    wow lmao am I a lil' dyslexic or what? all this time I've read Violet as VIOLENT. Violent Bent Backward Over The Grass. I...
  17. MJA liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   

    I would really like to hear more trip-hoppish BTD/Paradise-style production and arrangements for her current material. It was her best sound, I think.
  18. movebaby liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    If she successfully hypes up and manipulates the release of the poetry book, if she manages to create a false sense of urgency about it and a "you're no one in L.A. unless you've got an original copy" vibe, at least among a certain subculture of hipsters, then some people might care about it.
     
    But the idea that there are tsunamis of people in L.A. and all across America who are clamoring for the poetry book is absurd. Even here on this Stan site, there hasn't been much enthusiasm for it or the individual poems she's released so far. 
     
    She can say, "it's self-published and each copy is individually bound by me, each copy is signed and one-of-a-kind, it's a limited edition, a limited run, it will be a collector's item," and some people will be affected by that, but that doesn't change the fact that for most, the content will be almost worthless in itself, except that LDR wrote it. 
  19. Vertimus liked a post in a topic by GeminiLanaFan in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Having heard the three snippets, I'm almost sure it's not on NFR. Sounds too much of a bop to be on it. From what we heard, this her most BTD track since BTD lol. Doesnt fit the NFR aesthetics. 
  20. BreadKing liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Which suggests to me that it hasn’t been worth frustrating her fans for, or needlessly holding up the new record for.
     
    I personally believe that when she announced it in September of last year, she had it written or almost completely written, and had taken the accompanying photos, but had no publisher, and believed by announcing it she would begin a bidding war, one which either never materialized or which came to nothing after publishers reviewed the content.
     
    I’m of course not sure of the number of copies, but I remember seeing the number 500 somewhere in the last four months.
     
    It’s possible that it will be physically beautiful and almost a kind of art object in itself, and thus a sort of folk art piece.
     
    I wish it the best as a project, but wish she would have just released NFR as soon as it was completed and not announced the poetry book until later. Naturally, it’s easy to see how she would have wanted them to be released simultaneously, especially if the book were commercially published. But such things take a lot of time and planning by experienced business professionals from often two companies working together, in this case Interscope and the publisher.
     
    Silence from her and her team for 18 to 24 months or so and then an announcement of both the book and record and a release date would have been perfect.
  21. Beautiful Loser liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    If she successfully hypes up and manipulates the release of the poetry book, if she manages to create a false sense of urgency about it and a "you're no one in L.A. unless you've got an original copy" vibe, at least among a certain subculture of hipsters, then some people might care about it.
     
    But the idea that there are tsunamis of people in L.A. and all across America who are clamoring for the poetry book is absurd. Even here on this Stan site, there hasn't been much enthusiasm for it or the individual poems she's released so far. 
     
    She can say, "it's self-published and each copy is individually bound by me, each copy is signed and one-of-a-kind, it's a limited edition, a limited run, it will be a collector's item," and some people will be affected by that, but that doesn't change the fact that for most, the content will be almost worthless in itself, except that LDR wrote it. 
  22. WilshireBoulevard liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    In other words, she’s an extrovert in the genuine, original Jungian sense of the term.
     
    Extroverts like to be a part of the group and like to join groups, suffer a lot when alone or isolated, and tend to temporarily take on the group identity or what they feel is expected of them in a given situation, whether it’s soccer mom, heroin dilettante, club kid, pretty young neighbor, pop star girlfriend, Instagram influencer, dutiful daughter or granddaughter, new mother, Gucci representative or whatever.
  23. Tragic Rabbit liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Many were suspicious about ‘Heroin’ too, largely because of the famous Velvet Underground song of the same name and her brief UV-era association with Lou Reed, the Velvet Underground’s founder. I doubt the new single is a cover.
    Many were suspicious about ‘Heroin’ too, largely because of the famous Velvet Underground song of the same name and her brief UV-era association with Lou Reed, the Velvet Underground’s founder. I doubt the new single is a cover.
  24. bluefiona liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I have never advocated the ‘record company is holding it up’ theory on its own, only that they may have had to in light of a possible injunction from the Rockwell Estate. But Interscope having some other motive for doing so I have never believed.
     
    To my way of thinking, Interscope probably finds the poetry book a colossal pain in the ass and realizes it has no commercial potential in any way, not even as added synergy potential for the album’s publicity. Few if any self-published books make any mark; most are pure vanity projects that sink like stones. Even here on this board of Stans, not a great many people have shown interest in the book or the individual poems she’s shared.
  25. LanaFlowers liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I have never advocated the ‘record company is holding it up’ theory on its own, only that they may have had to in light of a possible injunction from the Rockwell Estate. But Interscope having some other motive for doing so I have never believed.
     
    To my way of thinking, Interscope probably finds the poetry book a colossal pain in the ass and realizes it has no commercial potential in any way, not even as added synergy potential for the album’s publicity. Few if any self-published books make any mark; most are pure vanity projects that sink like stones. Even here on this board of Stans, not a great many people have shown interest in the book or the individual poems she’s shared.
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