poetic jess

I like how Lana writes the most poetic lyrics in her songs and the most mundane, stream of consciousness-like lines in her poems when really it typically is the other way around. Again, we love a confusing Gemini

I love everything you are writing. I feel like real fans are the ones who are speaking their minds not only for the good but also for the bad, since we all want Lana to be successful, happy and make an amazing art, we all want what's good for her.

Really? I only see "positive people" lashing out at people for speaking their actual opinion that's seen as negative. I just think everyone honestly should just stay in their lane, myself included. If it's too negative, be positive. I just wish we could all speak freely on how WE feel, whether that be negative or positive, without any sort of backlash.  
The only thing I dislike is the extremes like
 
Someone overly positive: this song literally blessed me and my unborn child it's so amazing and whoever doesn't like it is deaf and stupid and needs to leave this board
 
Like if you wanna be positive about something, instead of being this overly fake whatever the heck, why not say:
 
I am so excited! This song is so good! I like it because this this this, and this this this compliments this this this. I think it's really cool that she did this this this.
 
Like no one positive truly backs up their opinion, except for saying it's a godsend or that it's holy and that everyone who doesn't like it is stupid.
 
As for the negative people, I don't much enjoy:
 
This era is fucking trash! Fuck Lana, fuck hope, fuck everyone who likes it. The lyrics are trash!
 
When you can simply say:
 
You know I'm not really too big on this era. I don't enjoy Hope because this this this, I think she could have added this this this or done this this this. I do however enjoy this this this.
 
I don't know, I just think the conversation usually gets too childish on both sides, the negative and the positive, and no one has the linguistic skills to back up or explain their opinions in a mature way. It really just makes the board shitty, but on both sides, not just one.

Agree with you 100% -it's even worse on instagram. Just hordes of Chris Crocker wannabes screeching "leave lana alone" as if she actually knows what is being said, or cares about it. Homegirl posts and ghosts. She turns the comments off and all is well. But I get it, she follows some of these fan accounts and they're probably scared to death she'll unfollow if she sees anything other than blind, fervent support of her every action. I always saw this whole "stanning" thing as a joke, but I guess some people are really feeling it. They really do idolize her, which is beyond baffling. You can appreciate, support, and even love someone, without putting them on a pedestal. Those rose colored glasses never did anyone any good

yeah i write every day too but you don't see me trying to publish my trains of thought...
 
honestly the poem or whatever was posted was lacking and a perfect example, in my opinion, of what's become a trend in acknowledging the specifics of modern day. reading about teslas and such takes me out the art because it goes exactly against what art is supposed to achieve: escapism. no matter if it's a comment on today or just being honest about an observation (like "i see a lot of teslas so it makes sense to write about it" mentality), it's still sold cheap. it also cuts at a level of being personal to where no one else can really relate and is more likely to gain attention for the said things that are not relatable. i'm sure there are better ways to make this actual poem sound prettier and flow better and relatable but this is lazy. but at the same time, i don't expect much from lana as a writer. yes she's written lyrically good songs, but again some of those songs are old and have been sat on for a while plus let's not forget she has songwriters on a lot of them as well. we don't know to the extent of which a contributor added to each final product despite her having the final say. someone could have easily suggested a line in a song and she went with it or it sparked a better line of her own. art is a process but shouldn't seem processed.

I get that all the time here, it’s like people take everything so personal. Like why does a stranger on the internet and there opinion bother you so much? Does it affect your enjoyment of the song or Lana? No.

FACTS

It just really makes me mad because I see all these members praising HIADT's lyrics, they're going crazy over Venice Bitch's breakdown, they love HIAB, and they're excited for them, then one person will say "I don't like X but that's my opinion, I'm glad some of you like it though" then the sweet sally no sees come along like "oh my god you guys are disgusting and should be ashamed" and it's like uh uh did you miss the 10 positive posts before that or like they're really living in lala land

I was thinking of this these last past days too, glad I’m not the only one who thinks this. I love her, but it feels like she prefers to just hang around with friends and living her life so I wouldn’t be mad if she took a break and lived a little and then come back with a smash.

It's become very apparent I'd say that this site has gained what I'd like to call "sweet sally no sees" who pretend that they don't see the good and only see the bad, then complain "wow you guys are always so harsh on Lana you never give her a chance and you truly aren't fans" and it's starting to get VERY old & annoying.
 
I don't really understand the logic of pretending to be a positive person yet being so fixated on everyone's negative opinions and failing to acknowledge everything positive being said? Like it literally contradicts what you stand for which is interesting.
 
As for Lana's work, I've praised LOTS of her new stuff. I fucking adore Cinnamon, How To Disappear is one of my favorite songs from her sonically and lyrically since AKA, Venice Bitch is a really great and cute playful song and the guitar is great, Mariners Apartment Complex is one of my faves and the instrumental breakdown is a dream.
 
Yet these sweet sally no sees pretend things like that aren't being said. I don't understand most of the logic here being used. I praise 4 songs, and say "Hmm well HIADT isn't really for me" or "these last two poems aren't really doing anything for me and here's why" and then all these little Lana ass lickers like to forget everything positive that has been said and it's truly sad and telling that some of you are here only to start fights and act like everything Lana does is godly.
 
That's not how life works kids, you can't like everything an artist does. These people aren't Gods and the way some of you hold her up to be that is actually really disturbing?
 
So instead of being a hypocrite, because that's what you're doing when you ignore the 10 positive posts and only choose to see the one negative post and say "wow this board is so negative", maybe just walk away and like not be so fixated on trying to make everyone feel bad for the way they feel?
 
You cannot preach that we're negative for our true opinions when you guys are trying to find the negative in every post on this site. It just doesn't make sense and I truly hope some of you work on seeing the positive in what people here say.
 
You guys act like everyone wants Lana burned at the stake for destroying the English language, when that's not even close. We're just not going to brown nose her and pretend we like everything. There's a difference between being a fan/stan, and being an intense follower who kisses her feet at every opportunity you can get. I'm glad you like her, but stop putting artists to God levels, it's really, really not healthy. Thank you

Remember after Paradise when she said she was "done with singing," there was nothing more for her to write about? Yeah *cough* LIES but I could def see that hiatus coming after this album

I think everyone forgets BTD took 4 years to write, that's why it's so good. It started with DMD in 2008. I truly do think Lana should take a nice long break. 4 - 5 years honestly would do her some good. She can focus on her life, being happy, having fun, she can also take a writing class, maybe further her artistic skills, write very slowly, and have 5 years to experience shit to write about. Also I think she should relearn guitar. It's nice that producers give her instrumentals but I wish she still made laptop demos with a guitar and then showed them to producers. If she did all that it would truly be one of her greatest albums ever. Plus she'd be happy living her life!

I wouldn't mind if Lana went on a hiatus after NFR. I think it's important she takes time off to live her life then come back with something solid and meaningful to write about. What we have from her right now ain't it, and that's because she has two years max to live her life and then write about it in time for the next release. With BTD, up until the age of 27 she had all these years of experiences which she could write about, and I think that's why BTD is lyrically stellar in comparison to later work.

I mean we all knew Lana's writing skills declined when she wrote a certain album. I'm not going to name names so you guys can guess yourself, but she even said herself it wasn't about the words anymore, the whole album was made just for a vibe sonically. It doesn't surprise me she's writing about telsa mom cars, I mean between "blue blue blue" "stranger than a stranger" "hello it's the most famous woman you know on the ipad" don't forget the fact that every chorus is repetitive
 
Our honeymoon x3
 
And a lust life x2
Keeps us alive X2
 
He loved guns and roses x4
 
I'm a sad girl x3
 
Money power glory X2
 
And many, many more
 
When you don't practice a skill, let alone live a life to have material to write about, of course you're going to lose it. I mean How To Disappear showed us Lana is still capable of her storytelling skills, she just chooses to go a pretentious artsy fartsy route because she wants to be considered an obscure writer like a Kurt Cobain type, which there's nothing wrong with that, but you'd be lying to yourself if you didn't say Lana has been playing the part of a try hard with these recent poems/lyrics. I get that she wants to be taken seriously as a writer, I just wish she would take some classes. There's nothing wrong with practicing your skills. Even Mariah Carey and Ariana Grande have vocal coaches. It's something we all got to do. Lana would move miles ahead of only she nudged herself into the right direction. I think she'd honestly like going back to writers class. But will she? Who knows

The way y'all think she's subtly announcing via a poem that NFR is coming in June it's most likely just a summer reference...

It would be nice to get a decent video again but you're only setting yourself up for disappointment if you actually expect anything other/better than that walmart parking lot embarrassment

If that turns out true then MAC and VB will be a year old...and will be on the new album...
 

I really wasn't joking when I said I expect the album to come out next Fall. June WHOMST lmao

yeah no

it's not our fault she's devolving

Nothing surprises us anymore, at this point.

All I know is im buying the album, whenever it's released & streaming it every day until the day I die, and I'm not buying the poetry book.

I- probably on twitter yeah

The only thing she's gonna post on national womens day is
 
"hi kids, happy national womens day. A step forward into the right direction."
 
*insert 1960s footage of a womens march*

This! it just gives off the vibe of a middle aged person (as @@venicebitch said) trying to slide into 'what's cool' for the millennials. 
 
I do like the poem too if I blur out  like 3 lines haha