nevada darling

ever since I saw The Love Witch I cant stop picturing Lana as Elaine
I would fucking asphyxiate if LDR5 would serve the love witch-esque visuals 
 

yes, and the fact that this is an unpopular opinion will never not shock / appall me. that song is one of the best things she's ever done.

This is the casual "no shade" shaming that causes half of 12-30 year old women to pick up disordered eating habits, but ok! No hate.

Not sure whether we should be doing this here or in Lanalysis instead, but whatever...

Sorry guys, I'm with @@longtimeman on this. I think this is primarily a song about Barrie (and kind of a harsh one, maybe even unfair). Let's break it down:

"My baby used to dance underneath my architecture"
Barrie was not only living in the shadow of her metaphoric architecture, her career and fame as @Lona Delery noted, but he was living with her under her roof, probably on her dime, in her fancy houses. Literally under her architecture. (@bummersummer made a similar point above.) And he's the only significant musician other she had during her post-fame period where she was rich enough to live in fancy houses.

"Houses of the Holy"
See @@longtimeman's post about that.

"He was cool as heck"
Potentially a callback to "Yeah, my boyfriend's pretty cool/But he's not as cool as me" in "Brooklyn Baby", a Barrie song, and perhaps "Shades of Cool". The repetition of the line almost seems to emphasize this.

"But you were so obsessed with writing the next best American record
But there was nothing left by the time we got to bed"
This is consistent with the picture she painted of Barrie in interviews and "Is This Happiness" (@SissyReed alluded to this) as someone focused on their art, more than she, perhaps to the detriment of everything else. (Ha, I'm amused just thinking about how blasphemous the idea of neglecting Lana in the boudoir probably seems to most of her fanbase.)

"How does that taste cumming out"
As @Sjp1988 suggested, perhaps a sly reference to Barrie being the origin of her saying "My pussy tastes like Pepsi-cola"?

"You did it all for fame
Baby, how's life treating you now
It's over"
Alleging that he did it all for fame seems harsh, perhaps a little unfair (and projecting to some degree), but Barrie did quit Kassidy to move to LA and pursue a solo career and live with his famous significant other. No part of that worked out.

"He was '70s in spirit, '90s in his frame of mind"
Definitely describes Barrie well, as he's heavily influenced by classic rock and Nirvana.

"Baby, how you feeling now
That I told you
We're through"
Lana was the one that broke things off. (Although it's questionable if she actually did tell him or just ghosted.)

"All the roads lead to you
Like the 405 I drive through
Everynight and everyday"
Not dispositive, but suggestive of her time living in California post-fame which points towards Barrie. Also, if taken semi-literally Barrie continued to live in LA for a time after they broke up.

"I see you for who you really are
Why the thousands of girls
Love the way Bill plays guitar"
Barrie is an accomplished guitarist. And "thousands of girls" instead of millions is fitting for Barrie/Kassidy.
 
OK, now to deal with some of the Barrie counter-arguments:
 
As @Vonn pointed out, she never says the person actually achieved fame.
 
I really don't think I could buy a producer theory for this song unless the line was "You were so obsessed with making the next best American record", but the line is "writing".

I think Mertens is too much of an artistic polymath to fit this. I don't see him having a single-minded focus on music, let alone "writing the next best American record".
 
Absent a specific candidate-- like Jimmy Gnecco, Lady Gaga, Chuck-- I'm inclined to believe that names she likes to reuse like Ray, Bill, Salvatore are just that: names she likes to reuse. Just because she likes the names. (I'm not even sure all her Jim mentions refer to Jimmy Gnecco, though perhaps Jim Morrison.) That said, like K, they could be invented pet names that do refer to a specific person. (I think there's a good possibility Ray at least began as a name for Arthur Lynn.)

I do think there is a case here for this being about Arthur. I'm sure he's into Led Zeppelin. The "American" part fits better. Based on his website and old Instagram posts I'm sure he's a studio rat. But this really seems like it's about a more recent relationship, post-fame, and overall screams Barrie to me.
 
And wouldn't it be a little too on the nose to put Barrie's name in the song? (Or Arthur's?) I'm not sure Lana would be as quick to namedrop in song these days as she was when she tossed off "Jimmy Gnecco" and "So Legit". This might be a deliberate way to obscure.
 
I don't think some of the lyrics really fit the theory that it's about herself. But I am sympathetic to this theory in the sense that there's some amount of projection going on here.
 
Mmm... I think people are making too much of this. Barrie moved to the US and (I think?) recorded his album in the US, has a lot of American musical influences, and stayed in LA for awhile after they broke up trying to get his solo career going. Plus consider Lana's comments at the Brits suggesting she really didn't think of herself as an "international" artist because she lived in the UK while recording BTD there. Never underestimate Lana logic.
 
Really? I'm not necessarily convinced all those songs are exclusively about one guy or about a specific guy, let alone the same guy. You know, back in 2011, 2012 when she was saying stuff to that effect in interviews she wasn't consistent. One interview she'd say they were mostly about one guy, the next she'd say two guys. Taken with other interview comments she's made about songs written about past lovers becoming about the person you're with now, I think Lanalysis is inherently a fool's game (that I nonetheless enjoy playing).
 
           

i interpret "dance underneath my architecture" pretty literally, to be honest.
 
from the Billboard mag interview, which that line immediately made me think of:
 
 
i kinda think she's simply referring to one of her design houses (a lower floor, or outside directly beneath a part of the house), either this or the Malibu one.

When the fuck did Lana say the guy is famous? You guys keep stretching these lyrics. All she says is "You did it all for fame, how does that treat you now?" Meaning he did it for the fame, that's it. No where does she state he actually received fame, he just planned his actions towards it. Y'all needa stop

great post, but according to the Church of Satan's fundamental beliefs they don't worship Satan, nor do they make animal sacrifices. though people do whatever in the name of religion so who knows.
 
 
 
 
 
 
either way, i don't get the big deal. lana didn't announce that she is now the devil's mistress and her music is dedicated to evil. 
 
i'm so curious to know what this is for. what if it's not for the album at all but a project that chuck is working on?

Lmao at ya'll saying the witch thing would destroy her career while NOT speaking against Trump would be even more damaging !
Her audience is composed by teenagers who most likely hate Trump and what he is doing, not 50 year old facebook house wifes
 
Every artist in the world has talked sh!t about Trump, Lana did in a rather strange way but it's not gonna damage her any more than it did all the others lmao
 
This is not really "bad press", everybody has taken it as a joke- only little trumpsters and illuminati freaks on youtube are going crazy over this while Love just reached a new peak on Spotify Worldwide and the video is just getting DEM VIEWS

Stevie Nicks has been accused of being a witch for 40 years...

I keep looking at the pic of her with 4 fingers up and LOSING MY SHIT like honestly the visuals for this era seem kind of all over the place but I'm really enjoying them so far

did this lady really waste the entire interview talking about dresses and red carpets  

This forum rn

 
Fun fact: Connie Booth, the actress playing the "witch", was the neighbor of former forum member @@SugarVenom/@Chloe.

political album confirmed

Honestly this reminds me of misty day so much. I love stevie and before I knew anything about her i read that on an old news article and laughed.

I'm sensing some Catholic guilt in this thread...lmao
 
 
If Lana were a practicing witch, hypothetically, why would that turn some of you off so much? How is that any diff than worshipping a God/Jesus? Or any other religious entity?
 
I hate that some people make being a ~Christian seem so normative, especially when Christians and Catholics can have some beyond F U C K E D moral & (double) standards

Stevie Nicks disagrees.

why do people keep saying lana needs to "clear the air"? there is nothing to clear. nothing is happening...

omg, the overreactions are killing me. 
 
i, for one, am glad she's taking a stance against trump even if it's an eccentric one. also i'm soooo here for witchy lana.
 
haters can get hexed! 
 
 
 
how is it dangerous?? 

well, this sure gives a whole new meaning to the LDR aesthetic in this movie
 

All of the dates are days people are casting spells on Trump, but continue with your LDR5 theories if it makes you happy

This thread goes into more detail than I ever could about possible connections between the Source Family and Ultraviolence. I don't necessarily agree with all the connections drawn, but it's an interesting read and particularly to do with the aesthetic connections/references, especially for photos like https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp15PO3IUAANSYF.jpg

It's not Lana. Original pic:

can you and everyone else coming into this thread with "exclusive info!!" and opinion like...shut the fuck up???
just fucking wait until it's out officially omg all you're doing is trying to appear like an insider 

i mean... i am...........

you make a good point. even so, i hope lana explores other themes in her new work. i liked "honeymoon" but, at times, it's soporific, and there's only so much you can elaborate on repetitive subjects. writing in another frequency could be stimulating for her. she's always questioned reality, not just metaphysically, and she's as accute an observer as she is occasionally solipsistic. i think this change in her songwriting could be interesting: she admires many musicians, as well as writers, that have been able to express both broader and/or more singular experiences beyond their own. i'm not saying she should totally abandon her more personal, introspective lyrics, not at all, but if she is really inspired and moved by what's going on, i think she could write songs from different perspectives, capturing the zeitgeist, or maybe with a combination of imagination and an informed point of view, she could compose songs putting herself not in someone else's shoes, but trying to truly imagine through a profound empathy, how she would feel, as an "other" (which, in a certain sense, she has felt). protest songs can be existential and not explicitly political. it's a difficult, artistically (perhaps commercially) risky feat, but if done right, as she is lana del rey, she could reach a pop audience that could really benefit from awareness and compassion. the time is right for this shift, in my opinion, but i don't know...i'm rambling and in need of caffeine to help articulate my thoughts