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release NFR

simultaneously sad and happy caught you boy?

no. people are fucking overdramatic about how negatively this album is being received. seriously? Look at most of the critics. Look at her social media. Look at the comments on youtube. They are almost all POSITIVE. It's like you guys are forgetting the horrible treatment that EH got. Also, I don't think that the people who didn't like FROOT as much before have changed their mind and suddenly think that it's a masterpiece. It's just that they found that this album is lacking in even more areas than FROOT did. As a person who was pretty unsatisfied with FROOT, I will say that L+F made up for some of the things I was missing in FROOT, but overall, L+F still remains the inferior album. Most of the people who hated EH when it came out have also probably not changed their minds and either enjoyed FROOT more or have already unstanned. The people who see EH as a masterpiece are the people who already loved it and are still fans today. As for everyone saying that people just don't like it because it's different, I like Baby and PDCM, and they sound very different (they might not be exactly what I want her music to sound like but they are total bop material). EM and Life is strange sound similar to her previous works but still fall short in terms of vocals, production, and lyrical content. End of the earth is very different from anything she's done before and most people on here love the song. Y'all really need to stop putting words into other people's mouths smh... But even if they were criticizing the album for sounding different, people have the right to dislike it when an artist loses the reasons that they were into the artist's music in the first place. Most artists don't pull a complete 180 on their sound every era, and the fact that marina has done this has resulted in a divided fandom that all want something different. Other artists would expand on their previous sound or go into something different without losing too much of their old style. But it's not the same though....... the EH era served visuals, beautiful and dramatic melodies, with production that sounds very different from L+F. TFJ era served us witty lyrics, fun and quirky visuals, unique and experimental production, as well as sassy and energetic vocals. Just because It's pop doesn't mean it's even remotely the same. L+F lacks the energy, sass, vocals, production, and lyricism of her previous pop records. you think people being critical of an artist's work instead of blindly supporting an artist no matter what they do and trying to silence other people's opinions is what makes stan culture "toxic"? uhm..... If you are really enjoying the album, then that's great, bop ur ass to that stuff, but don't pretend like there aren't legitimate reasons for people not to like the album.

cute dress but only looks like it's worth about 20 dollars

they kind of sound the same though?

I'm amazed how y'all can keep this thread alive lol. I think that even if she does release the album, it's probably gonna be bad anyway considering how little she seems to care about it.

I think that the complaints about the "negativity" on this thread are also about the fact that everybody on here seems so sad and at each others throat all the time. maybe I'm wrong but that's just how I see it.

This!! But to be honest I think that sometimes forums like these attract people with more negative opinions because they are the proper places for people to share their honest opinions both positive and negative.

Cannot stand the collabs on this album. All of them sound extremely awkward, mismatched, and jarring.

sounds similar to blue jeans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs9M0a5qYko reminded me a bit of Lana when I first heard it https://youtu.be/Y9bETCh68c4 sounds a lot like a UV track towards the end https://youtu.be/7ICS45rZsvo different style but similar vibes https://youtu.be/YHK7DUb_GFs

blue jeans and off to the races

this bitch had me thinking it would be out in a month smh

not sure......it's been a really long time since I've listened to Crybaby so if the new record sounds similar I don't think I'll mind. Then on the other hand it probably will sound dated to me because I've kind of outgrown her music, but still I'm interested in how it all turned out as clearly she's put a lot of effort into her work (and I'm desperate AF for some new music). I think that just like the previous record it might not age very well. This time at least she won't make us all wait ages for sub-par music videos for every last remaining song on the record. Dollhouse, Sippycup, Carousel, and Pity party all had amazing videos, but everything that came after soap/training wheels was obnoxious and tiring for the most part.

How can anyone even call VB a good song tbh?

anyone know what happened to mars argo?

private caller is THAT song

y'all in here like ''leak you demo'' when TNWWY is still out there smh

music video gives me pedo vibes just realized that I have heard it, and yeah.....it's a pretty cringy track

just watched a star is born today. what a sad ending not sure what all the hype was about though

never heard it but I guess i'll take your word for it

BTD (don't hate them but I'm over them): Dark paradise ( good song but never got into it) Born to die ( always kind of meh to me) lucky ones ( so out of place on the record honestly) this is what makes us girls official ver (beautiful but a snoozer) Without you PARADISE: Gods and monsters (you're gonna cut yourself on that edge Lana) Cola (chorus doesn't do much for me anymore tbh) UV: Fucked my way up to the top Money power glory both of these suffer from the same problem. The choruses sound like uninspired movie soundtracks, and the lyrics are blatantly obnoxious. HM: Art deco Freak just don't like the way they sound LFL (haven't heard them all) : Lust for life (ugly) white mustang (just straightup boring) BPBP (starts out very beautiful with the first verse but then falls flat with those awful harmonizations) Love (tried to get into it but it's just too slow) UNRELEASED (haven't heard them all) : Resistance Roses Anyways, whats with all the Carmen and Million dollar man hate? Those are some of my favorites

saw this meme on a reddit post lol

full of electric bops takes me back every time

nobody should force you to relate to an artist in particular way. people can get so mad when others aren't 100% supportive of an artist

I actually don't hate NMS because of the towels line I think that the lyrics of the song are for the most part not bad, but they also aren't the best she can do it's just that the melody and the production are bland and basic AF but the reason I HATE the song is the hideous vocals of the pre-chorus but who knows? If even SS and OT can grow on me, maybe this one will too (I highly doubt it though)