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Anyone ever think that maybe she sings for herself and what she’s comfortable with? All of the h@te for her setlist is growing more old and boring than the setlist itself. Yeah, it’s far from an ideal setlist, but I’m not complaining. We got Body Electric for f#ck sake. Also, did we figure out why she changed the lyric to March in COTCC? Thank you thank you thank you 💜 just listening now because I just got home and it’s great quality, even if it’s not lossless. Sounds like proper radio audio/soundboard. Yes!! I just spent the last half hour reading through this thread and y’all never stop entertaining. It got super unhinged right before she went on and into the first few minutes. (Before it got boring b!tching about the setlist again) I’ve kinda given up on any fall tour around the western U.S., so I’ll take anything I can get, like tonight.

Strippers in the Snow (Lana’s Version)

More details on the foiled plot. Scary stuff. Good thing authorities were able to get on top of this, or it could have been very bad. AP | Officials say suspects in foiled plot at Taylor Swift shows hoped to kill as many people as possible

I think Walz was the safe pick. Shapiro would have been great for trying to win Pennsylvania, but it sounds like his baggage might have been too much to overcome. With so much on the line, I think Kamala made the right choice!

Sources say she’s chosen Tim Walz https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna163448 I don’t know much about Walz. My initial thought was that we don’t need another old guy on the ticket… but it does sound like the one demographic that Kamala might be struggling with is older voters. Apparently they’re both about the same age The one picture I saw of him in a news story made him look super old. He’s 60 and Kamala will be 60 this October. I just hope he’s not a Tim Kaine 2.0 pick. Is he at least charismatic? I need to do some more research lol

I also believe the announcement is scheduled to happen in Pennsylvania, which would make sense if she picked Shapiro.

J.D. Vance recently did an interview and started it off by doing a toast with Diet Mountain Dew I can’t find the actual segment, but this clip shows it starting at 0:39: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YyvizyXhgCQ&t=247s

I think you nailed it. I’ve been saying that Kamala cannot repeat the mistake that Hillary did with picking a boring VP like Tim Kaine was. I understand that she can’t pick another woman (our country is stupid), but I really hope she keeps the excitement going with a VP candidate who also excites. It won’t happen, but Pete Buttigieg would be amazing. He’s so talented and extremely well spoken. Hell, he goes on Fox News and wipes the floor. Don’t pick a boring old dude and don’t pick someone who people think is an insider.

That’s what I mean. Some people who preferred Biden are going after Harris for similar positions they both had and it’s hypocritical. I’m probably way more left on many issues than most democrats (sex work, drug legalization/decriminalization, etc.) but I’m not a purist in the sense that I’ll vote for candidates who aren’t as progressive as my stance. Assuming they are moving more in the right direction than the alternative. Sometimes incremental change is better than no change, or by moving backward. (Like the Republican Party is doing) Also, if you think Kamala is against trans people, come on. Obama was against gay marriage for a long time. Does that mean he is homophobic? Does that mean his position didn’t change? Progressive, by definition, means evolving and moving forward. I’ll take some progress over retrogradation, any day.

All they got is: She made decisions in the distant past as a prosecutor that may have been too harsh. Quick to forget Biden and the crime bill of the 90s? Times have changed. I’m not saying that Biden or Harris is perfect, but 20 years from now, you can easily look back and say that we were wrong, and/or that the majority opinion was wrong. P.S., the parent point isn’t really a policy, unless you say it was her policy as a prosecutor. She enabled “Genocide Joe.” I’m not going to touch this one because I am not educated enough on foreign policy to comment and I don’t agree with that framing of the matter. She’s too far left/right. This is funny because you have Fox News and MAGA loyalists saying she’s a socialist, but you have some progressives saying she’s too far right. Full disclosure: I do not agree with any of these. I fully support Kamala for president. I would have liked to see her be less harsh on non-violent criminals in the past, but I can’t wait to see her take down Trump, from a prosecutorial mindset. Plus I think her administration would be lightyears better for our country and our world than four years of Trump. Additionally, I don’t think there’s a viable third party option, so not voting for her, in no opinion, is effectively one less vote against Trump.

Rihanna vs. Fergie

Republicans were harassing Biden for giving a strong state of the union speech. Some said he was hopped up on energy drinks and I’m pretty sure at least one of them said it was Mountain Dew

So far the only attacks they (republicans) have on Kamala are that she wants to ban plastic straws and that they don’t like how she laughs

Part of it is the religious angle. Many say he’s been chosen by god and that the fact that the bullet from his would-be assailant narrowly missed his head only further solidifies that. As well as being instrumental in overturning Roe v. Wade. It’s hilarious because Trump represents just about everything imaginable that goes against “Christian” values. Yet the Christian right almost unanimously glorifies him.

I think so. We were really close to doing so in 2016, but a historically disliked candidate with baggage was running against a surging populist. Not to mention she was horrible at campaigning, acted like an elitist and chose a terribly boring VP candidate. Kamala is undoubtedly an upgrade, especially with her prosecutorial background. Assuming she doesn’t hold back, she’ll take Trump to town in a debate. If he’s even willing to debate her.

He’s donated to democratic candidates in the past. This wasn’t even the first time. He wasn’t even a “republican” until he started pandering with the Obama birth certificate nonsense.

It won’t make it anywhere in the courts. A democratic nominee hasn’t even officially been selected or accepted yet. If this happened after the convention, and/or state filing deadlines, it would be a different story. It might still be a little messy, but as long as they act quick and there are no surprises at the convention (think unity), it should be fine. They’re just terrified to run against a younger candidate and a woman of color

I think this is going to be huge. In the early aftermath, many are throwing their support behind Kamala, including Biden, prominent politicians and even the Clintons. If Democrats align in strong support leading up to the DNC, the process will be easy and will project confidence. Stand united. The energy and momentum will surely sway away from Trump. The news cycle in the coming days is going to be all about Biden and Harris. The ridiculous RNC will barely be a footnote. It seems most likely that the VP pick will be from a swing state. Don’t expect Newsom or AOC. I just hope it’s an exciting pick and not a repeat of 2016 when Hillary chose Tim Kaine This is exactly what the democrats need. Excitement. And how about all those people who said they didn’t want Trump or Biden? Now they have another viable option.

Welp. Amazon music lyrics have failed me yet again. I stand corrected! I should have known better and that makes sense. At least what I’ve been singing was right all along It must be AI generated lyrics because this isn’t the first time they’ve had wrong lyrics for her

Idol of roses, iconic soul vs. I know the roses, I’ve counted so -Bel Air To this day I still sing iconic soul even though I know those aren’t the words

This is a fair assessment. I remember thinking she was a great pick for VP, but I was quickly disappointed by how soft she appeared once in office. She was barely ever in the public eye prior to recently, in any substantial way, when they should have been using her to be tough up against Trump. It’s like none of the strategists thought they should have a VP act strong and tough, when the president is increasingly perceived as weak and frail. Why are democrats so bad at politics?

The thing is, social media may seem hugely influential, but it often amplifies voices, opinions, etc. that don’t reflect the majority. For example, it seemed like Bernie Sanders was hugely famous (especially online) and destined for the democratic nomination in 2020. We all know what happened. As much as we may be in tune with social media, younger generations, etc., it’s really the older people that vote more. Younger Americans are understandably fed up with this system and many choose to not bother voting, or vote for a third party candidate out of protest or frustration. The Clintons had been despised for what, 15-20 years back in 2016? Kamala has only been in the public eye for about four years. Honestly, even in that time frame, she wasn’t in the spotlight as much as some vice presidents are. The U.S. is so polarized that I’d estimate 90% of the voting population has their mind made up, regardless of candidate, but for their “team.” It’s the 5-10% of the middle/unaffiliated that sways the election. Most national elections come down to a handful of votes (perhaps a few hundred thousand) in 3-6 states. Because the electoral college is stupid. This is the 3rd presidential cycle in a row where both candidates are more unfavorable than favorable. Anyway, I don’t think that Kamala would be much better than Clinton. Nor do I think she’s worse. Hillary was very bad at campaigning. She largely ignored swing states, where she should have focused more energy. She came off as very elite and pretentious. It’s no wonder Trump won in 2016. Kamala may seem weak in some ways and her perception by some progressive voters is undeniable, but I don’t think she’s any worse than Biden - an aging, old man who’s clearly losing it. She’s stronger, younger and has the prosecutorial background, that I think would give her a huge edge when going up against Trump. Assuming Biden steps down from the race, it’s going to inject a lot of energy and excitement into the contest, by default. If they were to skip over her, when she’s literally next in line, it would probably backfire. I say they put her on the top of the ticket and pick another younger democrat for VP. Also recall that Hillary picked one of the most boring, old white men in all of politics for her VP candidate… please don’t make that mistake again.

This has pretty much been the stance of the far right from day 1. It’s just scary the whole Republican Party is swaying in that direction. And that the Supreme Court is going to, potentially, support that movement

It’s unlikely to happen so soon, especially with him being ill, but it would have been a brilliant move to announce it during Trump’s RNC speech. Steal the headlines and attention from him. Something like this will probably take a few days for his team to carefully curate. I also don’t think he’s “up” for making a dramatic announcement like that right now. He sounded terrible yesterday, even for his own standards. I may be proven wrong, we’ll see. The sooner the better. Don’t drag this out too much longer.

The time has come. It likely came a long time ago, but later’s better than never. He’s isolating with Covid right now. I wouldn’t be surprised if he comes out early next week to make the announcement after it passes. I could see him saying that he had time to reflect during his illness and that combined with the rhetoric of the RNC and some of his close allies confronting him, that he has to do anything it takes to ensure Trump isn’t elected president again. And that the only way to do that is to not seek re-election. We’ve got to stop putting old people in power, especially old, white men. Sorry, not sorry. Maybe this will be the catalyst that makes that more of a thing for 2028 and beyond.