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i don't really know what to think about her. she contradicts herself all the time! i think she's both naive and calculating tbh, etc. maybe not meta, but i think she definitely puts a lot of thought into her words / actions and that she knows how to.. garner the reaction she wants to garner? like the whole farewell thing, for instance. constantly licking her lips, talking in a baby voice, stuff like that. i don't even think she was ever addicted to meth tbh, but she just included those clips in the carmen video for the hell of it. to promote her "bad ass bitch" attitude or whatever. i dunno. she occupies too much of my mental space for a person i don't actually know. but i think all the reasons people hate her are kind of valid sometimes but entirely invalid at the same time, if that makes any sense at all? i don't remember where i read this quote, but i think it applies to her: "i am everything you think i am, and simultaneously, the complete opposite"

i don't see this is debating, or mean for it to come off that way rly i'm just throwing out questions, vomiting my lana thoughts

all so true i think she probably does go more with raw feeling now that you mention it, but then i also wonder if we haven't seen her critique anything or give too much of a public opinion on anything because she knows that whatever she says and/or does will be ridiculed and picked apart in some way? so she kind of has to remain like, a bit of a blank slate as much as possible when it comes to anything but her 'art'? like when that interviewer asked her about health care reform or whatever the fuck i dunno if she doesn't actually know much about it or if she just didn't want to give her opinion on such a controversial topic? or both? i dunno why i bother to think these things that i'll never know the fucking answer to lmao

omg, fabrics? i wonder if lana has really weird mood boards. with random found objects like dismembered toy fetuses or dead birds or something lmao. if theres some off chance that i get to see / interact with her at the tropico premiere i will beg her to share behind the scenes kind of stuff with us through twitter / fb or something. offer her my nut forreal ya blue jeans is beautiful and everything but probably the video i've watched the least. i'm sure this ^^^ was her idea tho

i think H&M came up with all those ideas but they were 'inspired' by her sound / aesthetic and decided to link it all with david lynchian elements, etc. i liked that video a lot still, because it was still fitting for her. i hated burned desire tbh because you can really tell she had very little (if any) creative direction in that one, which i guess still means she has a certain 'style' thats hard to describe / pin down? i dunno. like, i guess since we already know she can make her own music videos with random footage, she probably makes like shorter / choppier versions with scenery she likes and then gives it to anthony mandler? or at least i hope thats what happens. she always says she gives him 'mood boards' so i'm thinking that maybe they're just more homemade film / image collages? drawings? i would give one of my nuts to see those tbh. like, here lana, take my nut ya i'm starting to realize that literally nothing can be separated from some kind of emotional bias. or maybe i'm wrong and thats an emotional bias right there lol. but i dunno, i go back and forth with her. like some of her lyrics are *so* bad but not bad to the point where you're like, gross and i hope you die bitch but bad to the point where you're like, what were you thinking? really? is this a joke? are you being camp? ironic? its so bad to the point where you're (or at least, i am) a bit endeared and you can wonder if its just intentional. and if its intentional, is it still somehow smart? like, i feel like you could even try and read into the trashiest lyric and wonder what drove her to that point? like, was she so desperate to fit into the industry one night where she just said fuck it and started writing out ~u rawk rawk rawk~ across a napkin?? or maybe she was really, actually just feeling like a pre-teen spaz that night? and it was all still a part of some kind of 'vision'? she seems like a rather dynamic person, so you can't really put anything past her it seems. maybe i find the lyrics / imagery interesting regardless of whether it actually *is* or whether it *should* be because i'm a psychotic fan. i guess i'll never know whether she's a genius or not but the fact that i continue to ask makes me think that she is.. i guess? why do i keep going in circles omg

**high six** i googled 'dramatic gif' and this is what i got pretty accurate tbh

OTTR demo, CU L8R alligator cause it sounds so ridiculous, roses because i wanna see what the fuck all the commotion is about but really, i want the music videos for QOTGS and smarty. pls

its funny that you should say this as i start to pull myself back and wonder if i'm being ridiculous or if the way i feel about lana is really.. actually warranted, in an objective sense? IS she really as good as i think she is? am i turning into a body electrician? does objectivism actually exist? i have this idea of her as being an actual genius and i don't know if its true. for instance, we all praise the ride video as being a fucking masterpiece .. but i wonder how much of it was her own version, and how much of it was anthony mandler's? is her work really, actually meaningful in its intent? or is it only meaningful in our own personal assessments? i'm getting dangerously close to entering that infinite loop of "what is art"? but i'm just wondering if maybe we are a bit blinded by the visuals and/or our affections for her as a person, or as an 'artist'? tropico is kind of a huge venture outside of her usual realm now that i think about it .. i hope it only solidifies my opinion of her as a 'genius'

when i said interesting, i was kind of referring to the entire discussion (its a forum, not a blog); theres praise but its tempered w/ valid criticisms well, i hope they end up discussing tropico .. its a different perspective, maybe a bit cringey but lana makes me cringe all the time lmao I’ve watched plenty of interviews with Lana and from my own (yes, subjective obvously) perception, she isn’t a complex character. Her music has this surface. "I’m a bad rich girl with a rich daddy and I was an alcoholic and I like living in America and I like bad men, I’m co-dependent and I like ‘leather on my waisties’. That may be performance. But surely isn’t Nicki Minaj exactly the same? ’I’m a rich bad bitch who likes pink wigs and I use my body as a weapon and am ridiculously feminine in music videos and my father was an alcoholic’. Nobody would create a forum thread for Minaj on MUBI but because Lana Del Rey’s music is sad she is a ‘auteur’? Come on, let’s face it. There really isn’t much difference between Lana’s music and other artists like Rihanna. Lana’s is sadder and more interesting. But where do I see a thread for “RIHANNA: AUTEUR” on here? But any of those artists could be argued to be auteurs if Lana could too. the fact that there are so many britney / gaga / katy stans here too (myself included) made me wonder if theres a bit of truth to this? are they really comparable in the pop world? i don't really think so… but then i put hit & run on blast and push myself back to square one Glimmering darling White bikini off with my red nail polish Watch me in the swimming pool Bright blue ripples, you Sitting sipping on your black Cristal, yeah” That is not assigning some kind of creative look at superficiality in pop music. i think it is exactly that. notice how relentlessly she describes herself as something that is passively watched and presumably desired, and who herself desires nothing but the gaze of desire. (**ow**) i’m not a lana del rey fan. i don’t like most of the music nor do i care much about the persona, but i find her play with identity, desire and consumption fascinating. she takes the women in david lynch’s films as a clear inspiration, and like them, assumes an abject sort of helplessness that is both traditionally “alluring” and profoundly creepy. everything about her art supports this: the imagery, the styling, the delivery, the nostalgic arrangements and reverb-drenched production. she makes a feminst point ironically, by exaggerating her helplessness, girlishness and object-hood." i think its also interesting that on that forum, the fans are the ones throwing shade and the ones that aren't even fans are the ones supporting her? kind of backwards and unusual maybe i could have posted parts of it in the feminism thread or started a new thread w/ all the good bits. i dunno, forum was kind of dead yesterday.. thought this would be an interesting discussion to bring over but i guess i was alone in that so brb gonna cut myself lol

i hope its earlier but october makes sense. then again so does día de los muertos but thats november so hopefully september

so .. cemetery? does that mean .. halloween? october? lanapls so .. after reading stuff like this, http://mubi.com/topics/lana-del-rey-auteur where people are already considering her to be an 'auteur' .. and having literally just read the latest V interview right before that .. where gaga says she wants to be an 'icon' in all realms or whatever; i.e in the art / film / aesthetic world.. made me wonder how gaga feels about lana? if the tables have turned lel-,',', i mean.. don't get me wrong i really like her. sometimes. but i dunno, i think lana + gaga are more comparable than gaga + katy + etc? they're more 'creative' types but with lana it seems .. more personal? not as overtly theatric? but i guess we'll see how tropico turns out.. *need $$ 4meth* is kind of theatric now that i think about it. but has gaga ever mentioned lana anywhere? i really wonder how she feels about her. especially after being called a fucking man lmao *i still literally wheeze when i hear / think about that line sometimes that whole twitter thing really surprised me. i don't follow her on there or anything but is she usually so.. angry / public about it? i don't follow her on twitter or anything but i just thought it was strange / out of character. or at least from what i sensed from her? i'm a fan but not a monster and i don't understand her and pigrez' history or anything.. too lazy to go through all her tweets. i would be rly pissed if i were her.. after being told i suk by someone who i also am competing with in the industry and probably / secretly draw the occasional inspiration from. i wish she would angry tweet lana lmao that would be so funny. what would lana do? omg WWLD? (not so subtlety) allude to suicide or something i'm sure http://mubi.com/topics/lana-del-rey-auteur anyway i thought that was an interesting discussion about lana from a different perspective than i've read about her anywhere else. and its film related .. can't wait to read objective critical reviews of this. i'm sure i'm gonna find a way to love it somehow but wonder how its gonna be accepted / unaccepted by the public .. especially since she's like, kind of huge now

:defeated: :defeated:

"they don't love me anymore? but ... i'm still young n' beautiful ... well FINE THEN I GUESS I'M QUITTING LOL" its kind of like when people threaten to leave this forum but never actually do bby just wants to know she's still loved ... but being dramatic as per usual

she's so ~ ~ ~ mysterious ~ ~ ~ but tbh theres no way this fame starved bitch is gonna leave the 'scene' she's just angry about the leaks and about her ex-fans that lack the strength of 'character' trying to draw them and everyone else back in with a bit of head fuckery is all

this is as far as my photoshop skills reach tbh but would love to have the clean image still

DRIVING TO LA FOR THIS SHIT HELL YES can someone pls remove all the text from that pic or something? its so beautiful

"I only put you down cause I want you so much" wat do ppl do this? i guess it can be.. subconscious? i think i had aspergers until i was like 20

i don't understand why they're not doing anything about all the black beauty uploads on youtube? for instance, i've uploaded videos for songs like hollywood, catch and release, you're gonna love me (which is old as fuck), etc and they've all gotten taken down 2-3 times within the past month whereas black beauty has remained on my channel (and others) untouched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Pku8rVY04 does this mean that he took a bullet for lana? did ben shoot him? barrie? were they having a sordid, clandestine affair? or did lana shoot him herself? are the lyrics and inspiration behind scarface in reference to L^4? did he shoot someone for lana? did he murder someone? is he K? the lyrics are so wonderfully vague. notice how he doesn't say i "took" a bullet or i "shot" a bullet. he just says i "have" a bullet. what is this bullet he speaks of? is it metaphorical? literal? SO MANY QUESTIONS

but she *is* in control; she wants what she wants *regardless* of the judgements she'd inevitably garner in response to it all. it really just depends on how you read into it. its a bit of a circular, more convoluted sense of control, but theres no doubt a willingness and a certain intent behind it all i think it can be empowering, to someone with the proper mindset. the gist is: do what you want and fuck what society or anyone else says

or deeply cynical, depending on how you want to look at it either way, she's offering a bit of a critique on our ~opulent~ minded society. not sure if lorde understood that? seems like she has a bit of a love/hate relationship with lana. i don't like the fact that used the word "manufactured". like, when anyone says that about her i just immediately feel like they're offhandedly referring to her appearance and then i cringe a bit at their superficial judgement shes probably just trying to set herself apart from lana as well, since they're apparently drawing comparisons? but seems like she looks up to her and resents her at the same time? but lana always garners complicated feelings, so no surprise there, really. i dunno why else she would mention her 3 times in 3 separate interviews

UGH LIKE WHEN

ugh can't get over how amazing this picture is does anyone have it in a higher quality?

cause she's so smart and so beautiful and kinda crazy and she gets me and i get her and she makes me happy and happier with myself her pussy also tastes pretty great with fries

well, she did spit on me when she saw me making out with a guy in london i just assumed she didn't like what i was wearing?