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@@gloomyharlow
Just for comparison
Meaghan Trainor has had 3 #1s and a 4th song that hit #3 in the USA
Her first album opened 268,000
Her latest album 117,000
 
that is with 3 of the most played songs, in the last few weeks
 
Record sales are not what they used to be
 
and of course, one should never compare an artiste like Lana with a commercial hitmaker singing novelty songs and such as Meaghan
 
I myself would rather listen to Honeymoon thousands of times than Meaghan twice.

@@gloomyharlow
Just for comparison
Meaghan Trainor has had 3 #1s and a 4th song that hit #3 in the USA
Her first album opened 268,000
Her latest album 117,000
 
that is with 3 of the most played songs, in the last few weeks
 
Record sales are not what they used to be
 
and of course, one should never compare an artiste like Lana with a commercial hitmaker singing novelty songs and such as Meaghan
 
I myself would rather listen to Honeymoon thousands of times than Meaghan twice.

I like this
and @@PARADIXO-
 I also like your concert list Paradixo
But its nice to have two separate threads, both with the OPs constantly updated
If one merges the two, it loses that, and the longer the thread, the less likely to find the info
 
This board is hard to navigate as the threads grow longer and longer, having threads with the OPs updated are the best

I haven't heard one mention- Has Lana smoked during the last 3 shows?
(and if she lit a cigarette, was it just a prop and she didn't smoke it?)

I like this
and @@PARADIXO-
 I also like your concert list Paradixo
But its nice to have two separate threads, both with the OPs constantly updated
If one merges the two, it loses that, and the longer the thread, the less likely to find the info
 
This board is hard to navigate as the threads grow longer and longer, having threads with the OPs updated are the best

I like this
and @@PARADIXO-
 I also like your concert list Paradixo
But its nice to have two separate threads, both with the OPs constantly updated
If one merges the two, it loses that, and the longer the thread, the less likely to find the info
 
This board is hard to navigate as the threads grow longer and longer, having threads with the OPs updated are the best

I haven't heard one mention- Has Lana smoked during the last 3 shows?
(and if she lit a cigarette, was it just a prop and she didn't smoke it?)

I haven't heard one mention- Has Lana smoked during the last 3 shows?
(and if she lit a cigarette, was it just a prop and she didn't smoke it?)

ah fuck it, just wrote a whole big thing and sliped and the page went back and its gone. I have never seen that on any board but this one. Usually one can just hit the arrows forward and the writing is stll there.
Fuck it. Later.

ah fuck it, just wrote a whole big thing and sliped and the page went back and its gone. I have never seen that on any board but this one. Usually one can just hit the arrows forward and the writing is stll there.
Fuck it. Later.

ah fuck it, just wrote a whole big thing and sliped and the page went back and its gone. I have never seen that on any board but this one. Usually one can just hit the arrows forward and the writing is stll there.
Fuck it. Later.

ah fuck it, just wrote a whole big thing and sliped and the page went back and its gone. I have never seen that on any board but this one. Usually one can just hit the arrows forward and the writing is stll there.
Fuck it. Later.

Record industry was a lot different 5 years ago

@@YUNGATA- re #5   People in NY and California most certainly don't want people to think they are in one of the shitty red states that take civilization back to before Lincoln  lol

@@Titan- that is about the most stupid thing I ever heard
 
Ask Leonard Cohen. He never even hit the Hot 100 and has had retrospective greatest hits albums. Lana has better chart stats than he does
The Grateful Dead never had a hit and they have had greatest songs albums. Lana has better chart stats than them
Lana has better chart stats than Joni Mitchell and Kate Bush put together in America.
Ask Lou Reed
 
How totally stupid to think one has to be commercial to get career retrospectives
 
I have really, never heard anything quite naïve like this. In fact, it must be satire, it is just so plain stupid.
 
Lana has about 396 songs and could have a 60 box set greatest songs (as one song is as good as the other, they are interchangeable.)
 
Why is everyone so limited in their thinking?
 
If one thinks like that Sgt Pepper's must have really sucked as there were zero singles from it at the time of release.
 
It is really shameful.

Omg imagine if they recreate the song and have an amazing mv to along with it and it becomes a radio hit like summertime sadness

Yes Lana is declining- She is declining to pay any attention to the haters
She is declining to pay any attention to those that want her to be what she is not (she said this right in the lyric)
She is declining to pay any attention to those that want her to go backwards not forwards
She is declining to be unhappy in her personal life
She is declining to play the #1 celebrity teenage fame game
She is declining all negativity and
She is declinng to sweat the small stuff
 
She is happy. I am happy she is declining all of the above.
 
to quote the Sinatra song "She did it HER way"
 
Long live Lana. The Trailblazer. Where everyone follows her lead and if you don't like it you can beat it, beat it baby.

here is an unpopular opinion (to the haters this will be unpopular (LOL)
 
Sunday the Governor's ball cancelled the entire day due to extreme Thunderstorms and lightnight being predicted (with the possibility it would even be worse)
 
remember last year when the haters hated on Lana because the same situation rose in Texas?
 
Do we hear a peep of hatred against Kanye and the 25 other acts that were cancelled on?
Of course not.
 
(now perhaps the hatred should be to those Republicans in America  and anti-vaxxers across the world who do not believe in climate change and
eradicating childhood illness and other diseases)
 
(and btw, I have been in Nashville a few times when a tornado warning occurred, and had a major concert cancelled and people told to go to
a safe place, a few hours before the storm started, so people had a chance to travel safely back home.

here is an unpopular opinion (to the haters this will be unpopular (LOL)
 
Sunday the Governor's ball cancelled the entire day due to extreme Thunderstorms and lightnight being predicted (with the possibility it would even be worse)
 
remember last year when the haters hated on Lana because the same situation rose in Texas?
 
Do we hear a peep of hatred against Kanye and the 25 other acts that were cancelled on?
Of course not.
 
(now perhaps the hatred should be to those Republicans in America  and anti-vaxxers across the world who do not believe in climate change and
eradicating childhood illness and other diseases)
 
(and btw, I have been in Nashville a few times when a tornado warning occurred, and had a major concert cancelled and people told to go to
a safe place, a few hours before the storm started, so people had a chance to travel safely back home.

Hope it will be a new song
and I hope a duet with Andrea Bocelli and then release that duet as a charity single.
(Not for nothing John Denver and Placido Domingo did a great duet, and John Denver was one of the biggest environmentalist music stars ever before his tragic death).
 
Still wonder why Weeknd didn't release Prisoner as an official single, which would have gone Top 10. Maybe it still will.
Perhaps they will sing that
 
but don't understand why anyone would think she would sing Video Games. Why would that be relevant?
 
Young and Beautiful would be relevant.

@@slang-
I agree about UV
Black Beauty was an "extra" and not part of ultraviolence so to say.
 
I do believe that was specific to him.
 
the rest of the album, not. (although he does have a writing credit, I think on Brooklyn Baby).
 
which reminds me, if Lou Reed didn't die, and would have been on that song, would they have used the chorus sounds from Walk on the Wild side?

Has anyone seen the tribute Anderson Cooper did? Amazing, very emotional, but amazing. Can't wrap my head around what happened, i just can't believe it.
 
 
 
Although I wish he wasn't killed by the police, I would've liked to see him suffer but I know in my heart he'll be facing the worst punishment ever, eternally burning in hell. But to think this could've happened at Disney Springs, I was just there. I can't with all of these shootings. Why cant we just love. We need more love in this world.

Condolences again to the friends and familes of both Christina Grimmie and the 50 people who died and the others injured, and all the other people personally affected by it and those who are now going to react a little different going to show and out for the night.
 
I don't believe in coincidences.
 
The clubs were minutes apart.
 
Did the killer last night (even if he had been planning it in his mind), somehow get the idea at this time, seeing how easy it was to get a gun in a club
a few blocks away?
 
For those not from the US and not familiar with Florida, it is a really big state and the USA a really big place.
Yet two shootings in 3 days at clubs that are for entertainment and having a good time?
 
As there is nothing to suggest, and police say that the horrible death of Christina is not connected officially, it boggles the mind to think that coincidentally in the same moments in time, someone happens to pick a club so close. And use guns.
Also, for all we know, at Christina's show, many more could have been hurt, if not for her brother tackling him and then somehow he shot himself.
 
What are the connections-
sorry folks, but the connection is the guns and the bullets and the easy access to them, and the easy way they can be bought in one state, put in a car
and bought into any state at all, even the ones like NY or California that have great gun control laws, (as one cannot stop a vehicle and search without some sort of reason, so if a "bad person" drives without being nervous, and has nothing wrong with the car, they freely can move from point A to b to c to d, etc.
 
YES, it is the guns.
They can be taken off the streets (if not fully rid of), but it needs more security machines to know someone has one, and the more important point is-
 
because of guns being so legal, and in states like Florida almost anyone can have a concealed weapon (but not California or NY), how then does one
tell the good guys from the bad guys?
 
I would personally rather be safe than sorry. I don't see in the modern age any reason for anyone to have guns and bullets.
 
and more people want something done, but the NRA is the #1 loudest corporate lobby group and until recently, no one fought or mentioned their name
so they had the forum all to themselves. But it is changing.
 
But I do think this guy, be it he hated Gays and it was a hate crime, or it is fundamentalist , either way hate is hate and it took guns to kill.
Easy access to guns.
 
(yes the NRA folks will shout out, it could be knives, cars, etc, but nothing so surely kills like guns, and from remembering what they said about
John Lennon, the bullets are made to kill. Not injure but to kill.
 
Makes me sick.
and also that more than 1/2 the country wants something done, and a smaller amount won't budge, and that group has the power at this very moment.
(the house of representatives, Senate and the 4 conservative Supreme Court Judges

early Tuesday morning  reflection/update-
 
What is 100% known- an asshole with guns and enough bullets for a war shoots up a club 49 people dead, many more injured, some severely in a Gay nightclub that was having
Latin night.
 
The US Media, in an election year, is quick to call it International Terrorism as a way to promote Donald Trump
The NRA, the gun lobby, of course is in full protect the gun, and profits/shares rise in the gun making industry
 
the gunman was born in America, in NYC, and moved when young to Florida. His father was from Afghanastan.
The killer has been married twice.  The first wife, he beat up, abused, and she quickly divorced him, and has spoken to the police and said he, soon after they married, had a vicious temper and was abusive to her, and went on rants. (Is he a woman hater? He appears to have zero respect for women.)
 
Being that is Florida, home to Zimmerman, and one of the most gun-friendly states, this person is allowed to have a gun, and not surprisingly, was a security guard (note, like Zimmerman, he was not qualified to be an actual police officer)
 
Worked security in the court building (of all things). Worked other security jobs.
 
He was investigated by the FBI 3 times.
Supposedly FBI director James Comey (he, the Javert like obsessed with Hillary Clinton) let this case slip through the FBI hands and closed the case when he found out the perp hater killer got remarried and has a child.
 
Seems the killer did not own the guns used prior to a few days earlier, and they were of all things, obtained legally.
(Question- why in the world would someone need these type of weapons, and all those bullets?)
 
Questions appear to be rising over whether he was or was not a connected terrorist, or just another asshole pretend cowboy hot head
mass shooter more like the school and theatre shootings, and did he call 9-1-1 three different times just to somehow make it in his crazy
head that he was doing this to give him more sicko fame???
 
His three calls prior to the shooting were pledging allegiance to 3 different and some opposite terror groups (again, some that are against each other), making it dubious that he actually was a member of any of these groups at all
 
His father said he was disgusted by two men kissing (but the press, especially the rightwing press is quick to say the father is a radical
born in Afghanistan who did or didn't run for office, (again a rush to judgement, possibly.
 
They say that in major events like this in the US, 9 out of 10 times, what is said to and in the media in the first hours/ day tends to be
spin and rush to judgement, and not necessarily accurate.
 
If this was not terrorism after all, then it was yet another senseless mass shooter, the optimum word again is shooter
and like all shootings, guns and bullets are the objects used to cause mass destruction in a country where the NRA lobby group
has the loudest (and mostly singular) voice.
Where the NRA basically (is there a different word than )blackmails any candidate in any political office who dares speak out.
They also seem to own most of the press, and have very well dressed and highly paid media people who spin everything to their side.
 
the goal of the NRA is to have more people with more guns (yeah, so in a dark club or dark movie theatre, more people with guns shooting blindly causing more deaths) Arming America, and it has to be reiterated, they are a small % of people in America. Very small. But the loudest voice.
 
In recent years finally other voices are starting to have some effect, but the NRA had decade long advantage.
 
The entire country has been terrorized by this person, so in that sense, he is a terrorist, and the weapon he used is a WMD as it caused massive destruction
and horror.
 
And another thing assured is, it is a hate crime, he targeted a club specific to killing Gays. (that is a federal offense in America).
 
And that he is dead, so he cannot be brought to trial, to receive criminal justice.
 
It appears the FBI is interested in his 2nd wife and what she might have known, and what might have been planned.
 
the President and others, while saying it appears to be an act of terror, is also saying there so far have been no connections to his being part of any terror group
and that he is a lone wolf.
 
 
 
So at the moment- questions are arising- did he just conveniently attempt to lay the blame on International terrorism in some sort of warped attempt to hide his
hatred to Gays?  If so, then this comes under another heading, that being the same category as the killing of Matthew Shepard, the shooting in black churches, the shooting of the doctor in Kansas who was hiding in fear of his life in a church, the shootings in schools (many different ones in recent history), the Olympic bomber.
the asshole in Oklahoma City who blew up the Federal building. Terrorist yes, home grown terrorists.
 
This being close to the political conventions, where you have Donald Trump madly screaming that the borders should be closed, walls should be built, no one who is Muslim should be allowed in, (which is ridiculous as this person is a born in America citizen and he did not come here) inciting the public, scaring the public
 
What we also have is Donald Trump and the Republican party have had a vendetta against Gays, against any not-White Christians, more recently against Transgender Rights and President Obama, (Trump today actually said the President is part of the terrorists, that the President sides with them, and the out front and center anti-Woman rhetoric of Donald Trump. And the media keeps quiet.
 
(and it appears some of the initial reports suggesting another gunman were totally wrong, it was cops shooting at him)
 
What a horror. I feel so bad for the victims, for the families, and friends.
My niece works at WDW and she posted  "Safe"  on facebook. She said yesterday afternoon she has been in that club many times for parties.
 
fucking guns guns guns guns (again, seems so easy the entire  problem of all shootings could be solved so easily with a few tweaks of the law)
 
and it would be something if religion ends up having nothing to do with this, just a truly hateful person who hates Gays, women, everyone and
he wanted to die in a blaze of glory.

early Tuesday morning  reflection/update-
 
What is 100% known- an asshole with guns and enough bullets for a war shoots up a club 49 people dead, many more injured, some severely in a Gay nightclub that was having
Latin night.
 
The US Media, in an election year, is quick to call it International Terrorism as a way to promote Donald Trump
The NRA, the gun lobby, of course is in full protect the gun, and profits/shares rise in the gun making industry
 
the gunman was born in America, in NYC, and moved when young to Florida. His father was from Afghanastan.
The killer has been married twice.  The first wife, he beat up, abused, and she quickly divorced him, and has spoken to the police and said he, soon after they married, had a vicious temper and was abusive to her, and went on rants. (Is he a woman hater? He appears to have zero respect for women.)
 
Being that is Florida, home to Zimmerman, and one of the most gun-friendly states, this person is allowed to have a gun, and not surprisingly, was a security guard (note, like Zimmerman, he was not qualified to be an actual police officer)
 
Worked security in the court building (of all things). Worked other security jobs.
 
He was investigated by the FBI 3 times.
Supposedly FBI director James Comey (he, the Javert like obsessed with Hillary Clinton) let this case slip through the FBI hands and closed the case when he found out the perp hater killer got remarried and has a child.
 
Seems the killer did not own the guns used prior to a few days earlier, and they were of all things, obtained legally.
(Question- why in the world would someone need these type of weapons, and all those bullets?)
 
Questions appear to be rising over whether he was or was not a connected terrorist, or just another asshole pretend cowboy hot head
mass shooter more like the school and theatre shootings, and did he call 9-1-1 three different times just to somehow make it in his crazy
head that he was doing this to give him more sicko fame???
 
His three calls prior to the shooting were pledging allegiance to 3 different and some opposite terror groups (again, some that are against each other), making it dubious that he actually was a member of any of these groups at all
 
His father said he was disgusted by two men kissing (but the press, especially the rightwing press is quick to say the father is a radical
born in Afghanistan who did or didn't run for office, (again a rush to judgement, possibly.
 
They say that in major events like this in the US, 9 out of 10 times, what is said to and in the media in the first hours/ day tends to be
spin and rush to judgement, and not necessarily accurate.
 
If this was not terrorism after all, then it was yet another senseless mass shooter, the optimum word again is shooter
and like all shootings, guns and bullets are the objects used to cause mass destruction in a country where the NRA lobby group
has the loudest (and mostly singular) voice.
Where the NRA basically (is there a different word than )blackmails any candidate in any political office who dares speak out.
They also seem to own most of the press, and have very well dressed and highly paid media people who spin everything to their side.
 
the goal of the NRA is to have more people with more guns (yeah, so in a dark club or dark movie theatre, more people with guns shooting blindly causing more deaths) Arming America, and it has to be reiterated, they are a small % of people in America. Very small. But the loudest voice.
 
In recent years finally other voices are starting to have some effect, but the NRA had decade long advantage.
 
The entire country has been terrorized by this person, so in that sense, he is a terrorist, and the weapon he used is a WMD as it caused massive destruction
and horror.
 
And another thing assured is, it is a hate crime, he targeted a club specific to killing Gays. (that is a federal offense in America).
 
And that he is dead, so he cannot be brought to trial, to receive criminal justice.
 
It appears the FBI is interested in his 2nd wife and what she might have known, and what might have been planned.
 
the President and others, while saying it appears to be an act of terror, is also saying there so far have been no connections to his being part of any terror group
and that he is a lone wolf.
 
 
 
So at the moment- questions are arising- did he just conveniently attempt to lay the blame on International terrorism in some sort of warped attempt to hide his
hatred to Gays?  If so, then this comes under another heading, that being the same category as the killing of Matthew Shepard, the shooting in black churches, the shooting of the doctor in Kansas who was hiding in fear of his life in a church, the shootings in schools (many different ones in recent history), the Olympic bomber.
the asshole in Oklahoma City who blew up the Federal building. Terrorist yes, home grown terrorists.
 
This being close to the political conventions, where you have Donald Trump madly screaming that the borders should be closed, walls should be built, no one who is Muslim should be allowed in, (which is ridiculous as this person is a born in America citizen and he did not come here) inciting the public, scaring the public
 
What we also have is Donald Trump and the Republican party have had a vendetta against Gays, against any not-White Christians, more recently against Transgender Rights and President Obama, (Trump today actually said the President is part of the terrorists, that the President sides with them, and the out front and center anti-Woman rhetoric of Donald Trump. And the media keeps quiet.
 
(and it appears some of the initial reports suggesting another gunman were totally wrong, it was cops shooting at him)
 
What a horror. I feel so bad for the victims, for the families, and friends.
My niece works at WDW and she posted  "Safe"  on facebook. She said yesterday afternoon she has been in that club many times for parties.
 
fucking guns guns guns guns (again, seems so easy the entire  problem of all shootings could be solved so easily with a few tweaks of the law)
 
and it would be something if religion ends up having nothing to do with this, just a truly hateful person who hates Gays, women, everyone and
he wanted to die in a blaze of glory.