Ethel Cain

[bluechemtrails 27,633]

If her aim with the album was to scare away fans, she won't be successful, rather the opposite.

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,606]

5 hours ago, Pink Champagne said:

As if people who support CEOs listen to her music anyway

 

 what's wrong with supporting CEO's? you know poor people can be CEO's too right? the cute old lady who runs your local flower shop is a CEO.

 

also this album is .. way too long. like girl can you please give me one structured song with a catchy chorus i can't keep defending you hayden 

[bluechemtrails 27,633]

34 minutes ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

 what's wrong with supporting CEO's? you know poor people can be CEO's too right? the cute old lady who runs your local flower shop is a CEO.

 

also this album is .. way too long. like girl can you please give me one structured song with a catchy chorus i can't keep defending you hayden 

lol, I think your expectations are totally wrong, Ethel is not the artist for catchy songs

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,606]

4 minutes ago, bluechemtrails said:

lol, I think your expectations are totally wrong, Ethel is not the artist for catchy songs

 

american teenager, hard times, gibson girl, family tree, and strangers were all fairly catchy to me.. that's more than 1/3rd of her last album.. to go from that to every song being this long conceptual thing is just jarring for me  she knows she could've thrown in a fun one for the kids.. she just wants to be different and doesn't want a tiktok hit imo (which she maybe wouldn't even get anyways bc it's getting BANNED in ten days apparently)

[bluechemtrails 27,633]

9 minutes ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

american teenager, hard times, gibson girl, family tree, and strangers were all fairly catchy to me.. that's more than 1/3rd of her last album.. to go from that to every song being this long conceptual thing is just jarring for me  she knows she could've thrown in a fun one for the kids.. she just wants to be different and doesn't want a tiktok hit imo (which she maybe wouldn't even get anyways bc it's getting BANNED in ten days apparently)

the next album will probably have the songs you want again, but this one is more of an interlude, an experimental 'EP' with ambient and drone music

 

 

[Charlottexseax 8,063]

1 hour ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

american teenager, hard times, gibson girl, family tree, and strangers were all fairly catchy to me.. that's more than 1/3rd of her last album.. to go from that to every song being this long conceptual thing is just jarring for me  she knows she could've thrown in a fun one for the kids.. she just wants to be different and doesn't want a tiktok hit imo (which she maybe wouldn't even get anyways bc it's getting BANNED in ten days apparently)

this is so stupid lol. Why on earth would anyone have a “tiktok” hit? Lmao. Most artists don’t have TikTok hits in their albums. Like what are you even saying. 
 

“She just wants to be different” and she can? Like who are you to dictate what artists should or should put on their albums? This is not your creative vision it’s theirs. At best you can like it or not 

[Disx 77]

3 hours ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

 what's wrong with supporting CEO's? you know poor people can be CEO's too right? the cute old lady who runs your local flower shop is a CEO.

 

also this album is .. way too long. like girl can you please give me one structured song with a catchy chorus i can't keep defending you hayden 

she doesn't do it to be different she literally just wanted to explore some of her favourite genres lol + you know damn well no one who hates CEOs is thinking about some poor lady instead of world leaders and rich bastards. let's use our brains!

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,606]

57 minutes ago, Charlottexseax said:

This is not your creative vision it’s theirs. At best you can like it or not 

 

i can actually have whatever opinion i want on anything in the entire fucking world babe

 

57 minutes ago, Charlottexseax said:

Like who are you to dictate what artists should or should put on their albums?

 

the modern day jesus

 

[Charlottexseax 8,063]

5 minutes ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

i can actually have whatever opinion i want on anything in the entire fucking world babe

 

which is why I said at best you can like it or not. But it’s her creative vision not yours. If you think an ambient album needs a catchy TikTok hit do that 

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,606]

27 minutes ago, Disx said:

she literally just wanted to explore some of her favourite genres lol

 

i didn't know that monotonous drilling counted as several genres.. and they happen to be ethel's favorites? news to me!

 

 

 

[GeminiLanaFan 49,655]

Not gonna lie, before this EP, I had no fucking clue that drone music was a thing or even a genre 

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,606]

11 minutes ago, Charlottexseax said:

which is why I said at best you can like it or not.

 

well no! saying that "at best" i can like it or not clearly insinuates that i shouldn't have any particular critiques about her music beyond a general like/dislike. and in reality i can and should (and will) think whatever i want about whatever i want whenever i want

 

 

 

[lakeemmahottie 1,773]

3 hours ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

 what's wrong with supporting CEO's? you know poor people can be CEO's too right? the cute old lady who runs your local flower shop is a CEO.

 

also this album is .. way too long. like girl can you please give me one structured song with a catchy chorus i can't keep defending you hayden 

ok first off: YOU KNOW the exact kind of ceo's she's talking about. support local businesses and not billionaire scumbags.

and second of all: if you think perverts is long, you'll have a heart attack listening to any swans album from the 2010s or half of the albums in natural snow buildings discography. ur acting like she said the n word talking about defending her for releasing the music she wants to 💀

[lakeemmahottie 1,773]

1 minute ago, GeminiLanaFan said:

Not gonna lie, before this EP, I had no fucking clue that drone music was a thing or even a genre 

if you wish to dive deeper in the genre i can give you some recs! drone music is kinda art in some ways. Natural Snow Buildings and Boris are great examples of this, they do the music live from scratch, thats the art of drone. 

https://youtu.be/QF3kzeyw-30?si=xckm0Gu8pgIfeUqD

This is a good video on it which mentions NSB and Boris as examples

[lakeemmahottie 1,773]

Arsony is quite literally the earliest example of music in the style of Perverts for Ethel idk

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,606]

1 minute ago, lakeemmahottie said:

YOU KNOW the exact kind of ceo's she's talking about. support local businesses and not billionaire scumbags 

 

i'm not psychic diva.. and i'll support whoever i want babygirl

 

1 minute ago, lakeemmahottie said:

ur acting like she said the n word talking about defending her for releasing the music she wants to 💀

 

did you just have a stroke?

 

 

[lakeemmahottie 1,773]

5 minutes ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

i'm not psychic diva.. and i'll support whoever i want babygirl

 

 

did you just have a stroke?

 

 

"sorry girl i can't keep defending you" corny ass

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,606]

11 minutes ago, lakeemmahottie said:

if you think perverts is long, you'll have a heart attack listening to any swans album from the 2010s or half of the albums in natural snow buildings discography

 

i'm not really sure what you're trying to say here considering those aren't successful bands in the slightest.. like you have less of a point than a fucking circle 😭 one of them has 8,000 monthly listeners (and dreadful music) and the other, while they do tour, only perform in small venues (and also have dreadful music)

[lakeemmahottie 1,773]

Just now, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

i'm not really sure what you're trying to say here considering those aren't successful bands in the slightest.. like you have less of a point than a fucking circle 😭 one of them has 8,000 monthly listeners (and dreadful music) and the other, while they do tour, only perform in small venues (and also have dreadful music)

music isn't about success or how many monthly listeners you have you bellend.... i think you're the one to talk about having less of a point when ur on here talking about how you can't defend someone for releasing long music. i think some grass touching will do you good babe. i'm not gonna instigate this convo further <3

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,606]

the lack of brain cells some of you bitches exhibit on here is astounding 😭 i'm going to assume lots of people are children to make me feel better about the overall decline in intelligence i feel like i've observed on LB in the last 6 months..

 

anyways stream crush and american teenager!! good songs!! catchy!! structured!! with discernible intention and meaning!!