Deadly Nightshade 12,849 Posted February 25, 2022 The russian troops are inside the capitalΒ 4 Quote Β πππ πππππππππππ πππ πππππππ ππππ ππππ ππππππππ πππ£π π±ππ πππππππππ ππππ ππππππ π’ππ ππππ π πππππ πππππ πππ ππππΒ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
house of balloons 12,792 Posted February 25, 2022 why is russia threatening sweden and finland now helpΒ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mer 61,735 Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, House of Balloons said: why is russia threatening sweden and finland now helpΒ I canβt believe this woman is gonna start a nuclear war.Β 6 Quote βΉ (:Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ [Μ²Μ :β‘:]Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ ) βΉΒ πΒ I took the miracle move on drugΒ π βοΈΒ The effects were temporaryΒ βοΈ βΉ (:Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ [Μ²Μ :β‘:]Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ ) βΉΒ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
house of balloons 12,792 Posted February 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mer said: I canβt believe this woman is gonna start a nuclear war.Β Spoiler i'd let maria invade my territoryΒ Β 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigspender 8,368 Posted February 25, 2022 war is one of my biggest fears and my brain is convincing me that none of this is real out of some type of fear safety mode idek 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadly Nightshade 12,849 Posted February 25, 2022 What is happening ? How is Finland now involved ?Β 2 Quote Β πππ πππππππππππ πππ πππππππ ππππ ππππ ππππππππ πππ£π π±ππ πππππππππ ππππ ππππππ π’ππ ππππ π πππππ πππππ πππ ππππΒ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the ocean 67,601 Posted February 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, House of Balloons said: why is russia threatening sweden and finland now helpΒ Β 15 minutes ago, Mer said: I canβt believe this woman is gonna start a nuclear war.Β Β 9 minutes ago, House of Balloons said: Β Reveal hidden contents i'd let maria invade my territoryΒ Β Β what- who's that woman and why are people saying russia is gonna invade sweden & finland 1 Quote Β Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bff 2,462 Posted February 25, 2022 βvladimir putin says russia ready to negotiate with ukraine in βhigh level talksββ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-putin-statement-war-invasion-b2023212.html?amp Β https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3168457/negotiate-ukraine-chinas-xi-jinping-urges-russias-vladimir Β there is so much going on right nowβ¦. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
house of balloons 12,792 Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, the ocean said: Β Β Β what- who's that woman and why are people saying russia is gonna invade sweden & finland that's Maria Zakharova, she's a spokesperson for russia's ministry of foreign affairs. she's made it clear that any swedish/finnish attempt to join NATO will be met with political and military consequencesΒ 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the ocean 67,601 Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, House of Balloons said: that's Maria Zakharova, she's a spokesperson for russia's ministry of foreign affairs. she's made it clear that any swedish/finnish attempt to join NATO will be met with political and military consequencesΒ Β Β hoping it just means sanctions and border watching (which isn't good either obviously) 2 Quote Β Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadly Nightshade 12,849 Posted February 25, 2022 Yeah but then we are talking about an attack inΒ a country that is in the european unionΒ as well like is he willing to go evenΒ furtherΒ ?Β 4 Quote Β πππ πππππππππππ πππ πππππππ ππππ ππππ ππππππππ πππ£π π±ππ πππππππππ ππππ ππππππ π’ππ ππππ π πππππ πππππ πππ ππππΒ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Ink 5,906 Posted February 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, House of Balloons said: that's Maria Zakharova, she's a spokesperson for russia's ministry of foreign affairs. she's made it clear that any swedish/finnish attempt to join NATO will be met with political and military consequencesΒ wtffff as if that's any of their business?! Who do they think they are, kings of the world? Sweden and Finland can do whatever the hell they want. What kind of strategy is that now "In case any country here does anything we don't agree with, we're gonna nuke them." Omg somebody just fucking overthrow that damned regime. Fucking muppets. I'm sorry. Β ANYWAY apart from that, the German minister for economic affairsΒ said something very nice yesterday and I just want to share it: "In the end, the people with their hopes, their courage und their longing for freedom will trimpuhΒ over dictators. The tragedyΒ is thatΒ sometimes, it takes a little longer."Β 10 Quote Honey,Β you makeΒ me feel I'm invincible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
house of balloons 12,792 Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, BlueINK said: ANYWAY apart from that, the German minister for economic affairsΒ said something very nice yesterday and I just want to share it: "In the end, the people with their hopes, their courage und their longing for freedom will trimpuhΒ over dictators. The tragedyΒ is thatΒ sometimes, it takes a little longer."Β you know, i really like germany and i understand that a country can't help but prioritize its own interests but damn,Β they're really pulling their punches.Β excluding russia from SWIFT could be a nuclear bomb financially, it'll leave russia's economy crippled, but i guess since it could also harm germany (and europe) then it's out of question. bummer.Β 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Ink 5,906 Posted February 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, House of Balloons said: you know, i really like germany and i understand that a country can't help but prioritize its own interests but damn,Β they're really pulling their punches.Β excluding russia from SWIFT could be a nuclear bomb financially, it'll leave russia's economy crippled, but i guess since it could also harm germany (and europe) then it's out of question. bummer.Β I agree, they could be much more forceful!Β But I don't think it's the economical effects on Germany that make them hesitate. I think they're actually afraid that Russia is gonna get even closer with China if they're gonna be cut from the EU financially. And in that case, we'd have that Russian maniac as a partner of the world's biggest economical and military force, and both love to invade countries apparently.Β The big problem is that China is not on our side. If that was the case I'm almost sure Russia would be excluded from SWIFT by now, or soon at least. I just don't know what can make Putin stop really... it seems like the more provoked he feels, the more he threatens the EU/NATO with war. The entire situation feels so fragile. 2 Quote Honey,Β you makeΒ me feel I'm invincible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
house of balloons 12,792 Posted February 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, BlueINK said: I agree, they could be much more forceful!Β But I don't think it's the economical effects on Germany that make them hesitate. I think they're actually afraid that Russia is gonna get even closer with China if they're gonna be cut from the EU financially. And in that case, we'd have that Russian maniac as a partner of the world's biggest economical and military force, and both love to invade countries apparently.Β The big problem is that China is not on our side. If that was the case I'm almost sure Russia would be excluded from SWIFT by now, or soon at least. I just don't know what can make Putin stop really... it seems like the more provoked he feels, the more he threatens the EU/NATO with war. The entire situation feels so fragile. yeah that's plausible but germany has made it very clear that the reason why they don't want russia to be cut from SWIFT is so that it would be easier for them to pay russian gas moneyΒ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Ink 5,906 Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, House of Balloons said: yeah that's plausible but germany has made it very clear that the reason why they don't want russia to be cut from SWIFT is so that it would be easier for them to pay russian gas moneyΒ I'm an optimist and I do believe it is going to happen. They did cancel Nordstream 2 after hesitating so I have hopes they're not too cowardish to cutΒ Russia form SWIFT, but they're careful. I don't know, for now IΒ trustΒ in the sanity of my government.Β I do think Scholz is a very rational man. I hope they're deciding wisely. Β Btw, after the threat from Russia, the Swedish people seem to be even more determined to join the NATO.Β If they doΒ I just hope this won't escalate even further and Russia won't actually attack Sweden and Finland.Β 5 Quote Honey,Β you makeΒ me feel I'm invincible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mer 61,735 Posted February 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, BlueINK said: I'm an optimist and I do believe it is going to happen. They did cancel Nordstream 2 after hesitating so I have hopes they're not too cowardish to cutΒ Russia form SWIFT, but they're careful. I don't know, for now IΒ trustΒ in the sanity of my government.Β I do think Scholz is a very rational man. I hope they're deciding wisely. Β Btw, after the threat from Russia, the Swedish people seem to be even more determined to join the NATO.Β If they doΒ I just hope this won't escalate even further and Russia won't actually attack Sweden and Finland.Β if Russia attacks Sweden/Finland after they join NATO it would be a death wish. The power of NATO could demolish Russia swiftly and decisively (albeit with much collateral damage and unfathomable loss of life).Β Β I donβt think Putin and the Russian govt has a death wish.Β 6 Quote βΉ (:Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ [Μ²Μ :β‘:]Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ ) βΉΒ πΒ I took the miracle move on drugΒ π βοΈΒ The effects were temporaryΒ βοΈ βΉ (:Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ [Μ²Μ :β‘:]Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ ) βΉΒ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
house of balloons 12,792 Posted February 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, BlueINK said: I'm an optimist and I do believe it is going to happen. They did cancel Nordstream 2 after hesitating so I have hopes they're not too cowardish to cutΒ Russia form SWIFT, but they're careful. I don't know, for now IΒ trustΒ in the sanity of my government.Β I do think Scholz is a very rational man. I hope they're deciding wisely. Β Btw, after the threat from Russia, the Swedish people seem to be even more determined to join the NATO.Β If they doΒ I just hope this won't escalate even further and Russia won't actually attack Sweden and Finland.Β I also hope the SWIFT sanction passes, it'll be a hard blow to russia. ties with china are already looking awkward, and with a crippled economy, there'll be nothing more for Xi in the russian alliance.Β 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mer 61,735 Posted February 25, 2022 Also Finland has a much stronger military than Ukraine. Even 1:1 war between Finland and Russia would be bad for Russia.Β 4 Quote βΉ (:Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ [Μ²Μ :β‘:]Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ ) βΉΒ πΒ I took the miracle move on drugΒ π βοΈΒ The effects were temporaryΒ βοΈ βΉ (:Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ [Μ²Μ :β‘:]Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ ) βΉΒ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mer 61,735 Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, House of Balloons said: I also hope the SWIFT sanction passes, it'll be a hard blow to russia. ties with china are already looking awkward, and with a crippled economy, there'll be nothing more for Xi in the russian alliance.Β i hope they go after the oligarchs and wealthy Russians living abroad. Those are the ppl Putin needs to be on good terms with and who needs to appease the most.Β 4 Quote βΉ (:Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ [Μ²Μ :β‘:]Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ ) βΉΒ πΒ I took the miracle move on drugΒ π βοΈΒ The effects were temporaryΒ βοΈ βΉ (:Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ [Μ²Μ :β‘:]Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ :Μ²Μ ) βΉΒ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
