Russia’s invasion into Ukraine

[Demonmic03 12,706]

Just now, The Siren said:

arent you in Canada? a US civil war (part 2) wont affect your borders, right?

Well ya. I hope tbh idk you never know what stuff will effect canada

[Embach 50,338]

One awful thing about this war is that we don't know how it will end and even worse, what will happen next. 

[Poetry in Motion 132]

my grandma, aunt & uncle are being shelled by russia  the government is so corrupt that getting a passport to come to the US is nearly impossible they say

[Demonmic03 12,706]

Just now, poetryinmotion said:

my grandma, aunt & uncle are being shelled by russia  the government is so corrupt that getting a passport to come to the US is nearly impossible they say

Oh no, thats awful.

[The Siren 30,543]

1 minute ago, poetryinmotion said:

my grandma, aunt & uncle are being shelled by russia  the government is so corrupt that getting a passport to come to the US is nearly impossible they say

try to see if they cant go to another country first and then come over. maybe that's easier?

[baddisease 18,362]

Trump's would-be assassin supports Ukraine and the Zelensky regime.

[Britney Spears 2,560]

This thread is also needs to be renamed as genocide of ukrainians (same with Palestine-Israel War)....which is happening since 2014.... 

Ps: just want to remind everyone that I'm alive for now....everything will be fine...Ukraine will win 

[Britney Spears 2,560]

On 9/16/2024 at 3:05 AM, baddisease said:

Trump's would-be assassin supports Ukraine and the Zelensky regime.

Doesn't every person who is not indifferent to the deaths of civilians support Ukraine?

I don't think this is an important fact that can point to his motives....

[laurita 4,612]

3 years since this wax psychopath decided to invade Ukraine 💔  I will always remember that morning 3 years ago. It was a fucking mess. And still is.. And I can't accept that another psychopath from the other side of the world wants to decide the outcome. After countless people have died for the freedom of their country. Fuck all wars!

[inthezodiac 430]

i remember this day three years ago so well. a car crashed in front of us when we tried to leave the city. now everyone is used to it

[Embach 50,338]

three years since this agonizing war. heartbreaking, i still remember the day when the news hit. it was a sad day but it turned into an awful year.

 

i haven't seen people talking about it but everything what donald trump has said and wants to do with this war and Ukraine makes my blood boil. as an european, i'm really scared for the future because everything is unstable now and we cannot expect anything at all what's coming next. all i want is peace and happiness, but it's something that seems to be hard to achieve now...

[Embach 50,338]

It was really jarring and sad to watch the Zelensky-Trump meeting. Trump and Vance were attacking him and the journalists asked stupid questions as well, like "why don't you wear suits" 

[bluechemtrails 28,374]

ok, I'm now 100% on Zelensky's side

[That Venice Bitch 29,967]

Again, we’re fucked

[dexter 2,613]

That was such an obvious smear campaign against Zelenskyy, it was obviously planned by Trump. JD Vance is honestly the worst and seems to pick a fight with anyone. 

 

Im just surprised the UK meeting yesterday went so well compared to this one. JD Vance did try to talk about the lack of “free speech” in the UK but Trump shut that down pretty quickly. Trump is actually like a toddler if you get him a letter from the King he will be nice to you for the rest of the day it seems. 😭

[Rorman Nockwell 57,456]

Donald reminds me of a bad-tempered teenager who’s purposely going against the grain on anything and everything in order to piss their parents off 

The erosion of critical thinking from society means that many Americans will blindly follow him into the abyss

Utterly disrespectful and completely unbecoming  behaviour from a world leader

Rest of the world needs to get their shit together and start countering his bullshit in a meaningful way. If the US is going to behave like a rogue state, treat them like one. 

 

[histories 91]

1 hour ago, dexter said:

That was such an obvious smear campaign against Zelenskyy, it was obviously planned by Trump. JD Vance is honestly the worst and seems to pick a fight with anyone. 

 

Im just surprised the UK meeting yesterday went so well compared to this one. JD Vance did try to talk about the lack of “free speech” in the UK but Trump shut that down pretty quickly. Trump is actually like a toddler if you get him a letter from the King he will be nice to you for the rest of the day it seems. 😭

Lack of free speech being they arrested neo-Nazis and racists. While Europe is getting invaded inch by inch, I cannot believe this is their number 1 concern 😭 Vance also held a 20-min conference talk in Germany basically just trashing on Muslims and fearmongering on immigration

[laymdok 102]

I have been following this topic for a long time, and it frightens me that after all these years, most people here still haven’t understood what is really happening. There are also those who, having no connection to the conflict, often manipulate the feelings of others.

 

Those who are today called cruel and inhumane, terrible and despicable, are now advocating for peace and a ceasefire. At the same time, the people who so frequently express their distress and suffering over the horrors seem to voice sharp dissatisfaction with the current situation without considering the consequences, and appear to push for further escalation of the conflict. This is something worth thinking about

[Rorman Nockwell 57,456]

34 minutes ago, laymdok said:

I have been following this topic for a long time, and it frightens me that after all these years, most people here still haven’t understood what is really happening. There are also those who, having no connection to the conflict, often manipulate the feelings of others.

 

Those who are today called cruel and inhumane, terrible and despicable, are now advocating for peace and a ceasefire. At the same time, the people who so frequently express their distress and suffering over the horrors seem to voice sharp dissatisfaction with the current situation without considering the consequences, and appear to push for further escalation of the conflict. This is something worth thinking about

The devil is in the details, though

Everyone wants the fighting to stop, but saying "okay, everyone stop and keep what land you have" sets a very dangerous precedent.

The problem with having a ceasefire under these terms is that:

1. The currently land borders may well become the status quo (remember that North and South Korea are technically still in a ceasefire that has held since the end of the Korean War)

2. It emboldens Putin and by extension, other world leaders who may seek to invade other countries. As I type, China is circumventing Australia with 3 heavily armed warships. There is fuck all reason for them to be in the Tasman Sea (between Australia and New Zealand) but they are there because they can be. And I don't think the timing is coincidental, either. I'm not suggesting that China is invading Australia or New Zealand any time soon, but the point is, the way Donald is behaving is emboldening others to test boundaries.

You have to look at everyone's motives here. Naturally Putin agrees to this; he is getting exactly what he wants. Donald and James also get exactly what they want, which is the ability to boast about ending the war in a timely manner. They don't give a fuck about Ukraine, or any other country including the US - they care only about themselves and their interests. Half the shit Donald is doing is not in his country's best interests. It's in the US' best interests for Donald to play nicely with the other children, but he cannot and will not.

ETA: Lastly, it's Donald's right to assert that the US isn't obligated to protect any other country, but at the same time, this is the world order and expectation that the US has promoted and shaped since the end of WW2. So, suddenly pulling the plug and saying "OK, we're not doing that" is dangerous af for world stability. No one can make him do or not do anything (that much is clear), but it creates a very dangerous situation, and one I daresay the US would do well to avoid for its own sake. The message seems to be that unless you are Israel then you will get no help.

[shadesofblue 19,518]

Donald and JD idiot give me second hand embarrassment