Random Lana Discussion Thread

[lanaismamom 11,553]

https://web.archive.org/web/20131105203137/http://lanadaily.com/discography/ this page on website created by a hacker of lana and sky ferreira also has this title Truth in Your Eyes so we can say for sure there is another one unleaked thing from ldr.fm times

[WaitForLife 5,250]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvaUV5hAcw-/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

 

[honeymooncd 3,752]

Yk how some people split up Lana's albums?

Like the first half is:

BTD 

Paradise

UV 

Honeymoon

LFL

And the sec half is:

NFR

COCC

BB

Tunnel

I wonder if we will categorize this album into another era of her music, or continue with what we feel rn. 

[Ethel Cain 9,048]

9 minutes ago, honeymooncd said:

Yk how some people split up Lana's albums?

Like the first half is:

BTD 

Paradise

UV 

Honeymoon

LFL

And the sec half is:

NFR

COCC

BB

Tunnel

I wonder if we will categorize this album into another era of her music, or continue with what we feel rn. 

I feel like its 

 

1

BTD 

Paradise

UV

 

2

HM

LFL

NFR

 

3

Chemtrails

BB

Tunnel

[Embach 45,126]

1 hour ago, honeymooncd said:

Yk how some people split up Lana's albums?

Like the first half is:

BTD 

Paradise

UV 

Honeymoon

LFL

And the sec half is:

NFR

COCC

BB

Tunnel

I wonder if we will categorize this album into another era of her music, or continue with what we feel rn. 

For me:

1st

BTD (transition from Lizzy Grant to LDR)

UV (raw, vulnerable, fan fave)

HM (more personal, underdog in fandom)

 

2nd

LFL (transition to old Lana to new Lana)

NFR (raw, vulnerable, fan fave)

COTCC (underdog in fandom, kinda personal)

 

3rd

BB (transitioning point)

Ocean Blvd (raw, vulnerable, fan fave)

 

And for me:

Paradise = Violet

[wilting daisy 3,395]

4 hours ago, honeymooncd said:

Yk how some people split up Lana's albums?

Like the first half is:

BTD 

Paradise

UV 

Honeymoon

LFL

And the sec half is:

NFR

COCC

BB

Tunnel

I wonder if we will categorize this album into another era of her music, or continue with what we feel rn. 

personally i categorize her albums in groupings of 3

first group:

aka

btd

uv

second group:

hm

lfl

nfr

third group:

cotcc

bb

dykttatuob

 

so i do see the next album as being apart of another era in that sense.

[tienmej 347]

3 hours ago, Embach said:

For me:

1st

BTD (transition from Lizzy Grant to LDR)
...

Ocean Blvd (raw, vulnerable, fan fave)
...

I feel crazy for saying this, but to me ocean blvd feels in some ways like she is circling back to her pre 2011 era of acoustic sound...

Also, I dont mean this in a bad way, but objectively Blue Bannisters is not a real album... LISTEN... There is pretty much zero conceptual reason for her to dump 7 or so of her unreleased tracks in the context of that album. What I think happened is that Lana for some reason felt the need to drop a new album right after COCC, and at that point in time she had a clear direction in mind, which was to cover her own family relations and to diss some of her family members... - thus she ended up with 4 new songs (Textbook, Wildflower Wildfire, Blue Bannisters, Sweet Carolina) that cover those exact themes and which are the only "true" BB songs, because they were clearly meant for the album in the context of the announced themes. From that point, I speculate that for some reason she either did not have enough material that covers these topics to arrange it into a full LP, or she decided not to continue in that direction for personal reasons. The issue with the latter is that ultimately she did continue writing in this direction for Ocean Blvd, so I honestly think she probably just wasnt sure back during the BB era of writing or just needed more time. Anyway, to make up for this lack of material and time, she decided to drop some random unreleased songs just because she liked them and because she probably was still liking the idea of releasing an album comprised of unreleased songs, which she mentioned back in 2017. Because even the relatively recent songs like Black Bathing Suit and Beautiful (?) were outtakes. And now, in the Ocean Blvd era, the rest of her Blue Bannisters era/style writing was finally completed and thus she dropped Fingertips, which definitely sounds like a BB outtake and other songs about her family. Maybe she had a writing block on the topic of her family, which resolved after she started writing her memoirs or smth. Pure speculation. 

ANYWAY, the point is that I do not think it is fair to call BB an album, when it is essentially a mixtape. And because 70 percent of BB is random outtakes from 3+ eras, most of which were left musically unchanged, I do not think we should use BB era as any sort of reference for her future musical direction or as part of her evolution, because it isn't. It is actually what sets Ocean Blvd apart, which is that unlike Blue Bannisters, some of her songs from Ocean Blvd, which are thematically identical to the themes of the core BB songs, were actually adapted to suit the record and not just dropped as is.
 

[fukksleep 96]

1 hour ago, tienmej said:

I feel crazy for saying this, but to me ocean blvd feels in some ways like she is circling back to her pre 2011 era of acoustic sound...

Also, I dont mean this in a bad way, but objectively Blue Bannisters is not a real album... LISTEN... There is pretty much zero conceptual reason for her to dump 7 or so of her unreleased tracks in the context of that album. What I think happened is that Lana for some reason felt the need to drop a new album right after COCC, and at that point in time she had a clear direction in mind, which was to cover her own family relations and to diss some of her family members... - thus she ended up with 4 new songs (Textbook, Wildflower Wildfire, Blue Bannisters, Sweet Carolina) that cover those exact themes and which are the only "true" BB songs, because they were clearly meant for the album in the context of the announced themes. From that point, I speculate that for some reason she either did not have enough material that covers these topics to arrange it into a full LP, or she decided not to continue in that direction for personal reasons. The issue with the latter is that ultimately she did continue writing in this direction for Ocean Blvd, so I honestly think she probably just wasnt sure back during the BB era of writing or just needed more time. Anyway, to make up for this lack of material and time, she decided to drop some random unreleased songs just because she liked them and because she probably was still liking the idea of releasing an album comprised of unreleased songs, which she mentioned back in 2017. Because even the relatively recent songs like Black Bathing Suit and Beautiful (?) were outtakes. And now, in the Ocean Blvd era, the rest of her Blue Bannisters era/style writing was finally completed and thus she dropped Fingertips, which definitely sounds like a BB outtake and other songs about her family. Maybe she had a writing block on the topic of her family, which resolved after she started writing her memoirs or smth. Pure speculation. 

ANYWAY, the point is that I do not think it is fair to call BB an album, when it is essentially a mixtape. And because 70 percent of BB is random outtakes from 3+ eras, most of which were left musically unchanged, I do not think we should use BB era as any sort of reference for her future musical direction or as part of her evolution, because it isn't. It is actually what sets Ocean Blvd apart, which is that unlike Blue Bannisters, some of her songs from Ocean Blvd, which are thematically identical to the themes of the core BB songs, were actually adapted to suit the record and not just dropped as is.
 

Ok now this was the best spill that ive seen on lb. Blue banisters is really really messy and its her worst work

[Make me your Dream Life 88,886]

when you think about it it's amazing cus she literally has one part of her chest out but it's legit art, imagine that 

[lanaismamom 11,553]

9 hours ago, honeymooncd said:

Yk how some people split up Lana's albums?

Like the first half is:

BTD 

Paradise

UV 

Honeymoon

LFL

And the sec half is:

NFR

COCC

BB

Tunnel

I wonder if we will categorize this album into another era of her music, or continue with what we feel rn. 

i feel it is
Lana Del Ray a.k.a. Lizzy Grant

Born to Die
Paradise

Ultraviolence
Honeymoon
Lust for Life

Norman Fucking Rockwell!
Chemtrails Over the Country Club
Blue Banisters
Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd? as most strong and closing for the sound in this row,
and then id expect something drastically new, wouldnt mind of going in somewhere in style of Taco Truck latino inspiration sound, but then im ready for everything because i was so scared for Ocean Blvd that it would be a strong continuation of the past 3 albums but she proved that she can continue do everything she wants and snitch with this and it rather some kind of a transition album for me

[lanaismamom 11,553]

i remember someone was wondering about queen of disaster 320 kbps and this is what i could find about it, this is when OG file of it was leaked that lead to the link that isnt available for me http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/iwzpbz4o/file.html but it contained this file https://krakenfiles.com/view/BTuoK4e7bu/file.html that is 128 so indeed this is the highest quality available to us

[GeminiLanaFan 49,400]

8 hours ago, tienmej said:

I feel crazy for saying this, but to me ocean blvd feels in some ways like she is circling back to her pre 2011 era of acoustic sound...

Also, I dont mean this in a bad way, but objectively Blue Bannisters is not a real album... LISTEN... There is pretty much zero conceptual reason for her to dump 7 or so of her unreleased tracks in the context of that album. What I think happened is that Lana for some reason felt the need to drop a new album right after COCC, and at that point in time she had a clear direction in mind, which was to cover her own family relations and to diss some of her family members... - thus she ended up with 4 new songs (Textbook, Wildflower Wildfire, Blue Bannisters, Sweet Carolina) that cover those exact themes and which are the only "true" BB songs, because they were clearly meant for the album in the context of the announced themes. From that point, I speculate that for some reason she either did not have enough material that covers these topics to arrange it into a full LP, or she decided not to continue in that direction for personal reasons. The issue with the latter is that ultimately she did continue writing in this direction for Ocean Blvd, so I honestly think she probably just wasnt sure back during the BB era of writing or just needed more time. Anyway, to make up for this lack of material and time, she decided to drop some random unreleased songs just because she liked them and because she probably was still liking the idea of releasing an album comprised of unreleased songs, which she mentioned back in 2017. Because even the relatively recent songs like Black Bathing Suit and Beautiful (?) were outtakes. And now, in the Ocean Blvd era, the rest of her Blue Bannisters era/style writing was finally completed and thus she dropped Fingertips, which definitely sounds like a BB outtake and other songs about her family. Maybe she had a writing block on the topic of her family, which resolved after she started writing her memoirs or smth. Pure speculation. 

ANYWAY, the point is that I do not think it is fair to call BB an album, when it is essentially a mixtape. And because 70 percent of BB is random outtakes from 3+ eras, most of which were left musically unchanged, I do not think we should use BB era as any sort of reference for her future musical direction or as part of her evolution, because it isn't. It is actually what sets Ocean Blvd apart, which is that unlike Blue Bannisters, some of her songs from Ocean Blvd, which are thematically identical to the themes of the core BB songs, were actually adapted to suit the record and not just dropped as is.
 

I think the backstory of BB is even messier than what you described, TBH. Not that it’s a bad album at all but it’s true that it’s not super cohesive. 
lustforlife mentioned that this album happened by accident : she was working on her cover album and she got inspired to record new songs… which turned into many new songs, thus tossing aside the covers. At that point, she seems to have wanted to « tell her story » through these new tunes and unreleased from passed eras (the RCS post she did on CoCC’s release day or the next). BoZ also stated that the track list changed a lot during its creation and the more she recorded, the more unreleased songs got pushed aside, leaving only some on BB. The other factor we cant rule out but that I don’t know where to put in BB’s timeline is Barrie asking her to put Riverside on his album and she asked permission for four songs they did together to be put on BB and the cover album… 

Anyways, I’m glad OB got a bigger sound and I sure hope LDR10 will follow that, with some experimentation / alternative sounds

[PARADIXO 33,100]

To me it is --

 

Born to Die

Ultraviolence

Honeymoon

Lust for Life (this one being a transition)

 

Norman

Chemtrails

Blue Banisters

Ocean Blvd (this one being another transition, I hope)

[Psychedelic Pussy 30,111]

2 minutes ago, PARADIXO said:

To me it is --

 

Born to Die

Ultraviolence

Honeymoon

Lust for Life (this one being a transition)

 

Norman

Chemtrails

Blue Banisters

Ocean Blvd (this one being another transition, I hope)

 

now we can get 4 surf rock psychedelic trip hop albums OMG !

[West Coast 45,897]

16 minutes ago, PARADIXO said:

To me it is --

 

Born to Die

Ultraviolence

Honeymoon

Lust for Life (this one being a transition)

 

Norman

Chemtrails

Blue Banisters

Ocean Blvd (this one being another transition, I hope)

 

The only one I've seen so far that actually makes sense 

[Vertimus 9,673]

5 hours ago, GeminiLanaFan said:

I think the backstory of BB is even messier than what you described, TBH. Not that it’s a bad album at all but it’s true that it’s not super cohesive. 
lustforlife mentioned that this album happened by accident : she was working on her cover album and she got inspired to record new songs… which turned into many new songs, thus tossing aside the covers. At that point, she seems to have wanted to « tell her story » through these new tunes and unreleased from passed eras (the RCS post she did on CoCC’s release day or the next). BoZ also stated that the track list changed a lot during its creation and the more she recorded, the more unreleased songs got pushed aside, leaving only some on BB. The other factor we cant rule out but that I don’t know where to put in BB’s timeline is Barrie asking her to put Riverside on his album and she asked permission for four songs they did together to be put on BB and the cover album… 

Anyways, I’m glad OB got a bigger sound and I sure hope LDR10 will follow that, with some experimentation / alternative sounds

For me, BB the album seems permanently underrated. While I don't like the title track at all, I love 'Arcadia,' 'BBS,' 'VFR,' 'IYLDWM,' 'TB,' and 'WFWF,' and like 'Sweet Carolina,' 'Dealer,' and 'Beautiful' well enough.

 

The other four leaked tracks I have liked for years, all of them, though I prefer the '50s'-style version of 'Thunder.'

 

So that leaves 'The Trio,' which I never play, because I've known the original version for many years and I don't think it does anything for the album. 

 

Instead of basing my like or dislike on album history, facts, knowledge, opinion, or abstraction, I just like the sound of the songs I've said I like above, their message, and, in some cases, their simplicity ('Arcadia, 'VFR), especially because it seems all her albums have tortured or somewhat tortured histories. Maybe we know too much and that gets in the way of our appreciation. 

 

I know I'm way in the minority, but I vastly prefer BB the album to OC the album. 

[GeminiLanaFan 49,400]

36 minutes ago, Vertimus said:

For me, BB the album seems permanently underrated. While I don't like the title track at all, I love 'Arcadia,' 'BBS,' 'VFR,' 'IYLDWM,' 'TB,' and 'WFWF,' and like 'Sweet Carolina,' 'Dealer,' and 'Beautiful' well enough.

 

The other four leaked tracks I have liked for years, all of them, though I prefer the '50s'-style version of 'Thunder.'

 

So that leaves 'The Trio,' which I never play, because I've known the original version for many years and I don't think it does anything for the album. 

 

Instead of basing my like or dislike on album history, facts, knowledge, opinion, or abstraction, I just like the sound of the songs I've said I like above, their message, and, in some cases, their simplicity ('Arcadia, 'VFR), especially because it seems all her albums have tortured or somewhat tortured histories. Maybe we know too much and that gets in the way of our appreciation. 

 

I know I'm way in the minority, but I vastly prefer BB the album to OC the album. 

I really like BB (song and album), especially in the fall or at the end of summer, when I am having a peaceful mindset or when I cook. It’s not a perfect album (there is, iMO, one song too many relying solely on piano) but many songs on it are simply gorgeous. 

[evalionisameme 13,900]

Anyone noticed Taylor is imitating her vocal inflections now?

 

 

 

You can’t tell me that opening bit doesn’t sound like a Lana imitation 

[Vertimus 9,673]

5 minutes ago, GeminiLanaFan said:

I really like BB (song and album), especially in the fall or at the end of summer, when I am having a peaceful mindset or when I cook. It’s not a perfect album (there is, iMO, one song too many relying solely on piano) but many songs on it are simply gorgeous. 

I'm glad you appreciate it and enjoy even the title track; it's the 'Nikki Lane' namedropping part that I don't care for. Like 'Happiness Is a Butterfly,' I was disappointed when I heard the entire song. I also find it very peaceful in many parts. It may not be 'cohesive,' but I find it a lot more cohesive than OC--if that matters at all. 

[wilting daisy 3,395]

15 hours ago, tienmej said:

I feel crazy for saying this, but to me ocean blvd feels in some ways like she is circling back to her pre 2011 era of acoustic sound...

Also, I dont mean this in a bad way, but objectively Blue Bannisters is not a real album... LISTEN... There is pretty much zero conceptual reason for her to dump 7 or so of her unreleased tracks in the context of that album. What I think happened is that Lana for some reason felt the need to drop a new album right after COCC, and at that point in time she had a clear direction in mind, which was to cover her own family relations and to diss some of her family members... - thus she ended up with 4 new songs (Textbook, Wildflower Wildfire, Blue Bannisters, Sweet Carolina) that cover those exact themes and which are the only "true" BB songs, because they were clearly meant for the album in the context of the announced themes. From that point, I speculate that for some reason she either did not have enough material that covers these topics to arrange it into a full LP, or she decided not to continue in that direction for personal reasons. The issue with the latter is that ultimately she did continue writing in this direction for Ocean Blvd, so I honestly think she probably just wasnt sure back during the BB era of writing or just needed more time. Anyway, to make up for this lack of material and time, she decided to drop some random unreleased songs just because she liked them and because she probably was still liking the idea of releasing an album comprised of unreleased songs, which she mentioned back in 2017. Because even the relatively recent songs like Black Bathing Suit and Beautiful (?) were outtakes. And now, in the Ocean Blvd era, the rest of her Blue Bannisters era/style writing was finally completed and thus she dropped Fingertips, which definitely sounds like a BB outtake and other songs about her family. Maybe she had a writing block on the topic of her family, which resolved after she started writing her memoirs or smth. Pure speculation. 

ANYWAY, the point is that I do not think it is fair to call BB an album, when it is essentially a mixtape. And because 70 percent of BB is random outtakes from 3+ eras, most of which were left musically unchanged, I do not think we should use BB era as any sort of reference for her future musical direction or as part of her evolution, because it isn't. It is actually what sets Ocean Blvd apart, which is that unlike Blue Bannisters, some of her songs from Ocean Blvd, which are thematically identical to the themes of the core BB songs, were actually adapted to suit the record and not just dropped as is.
 

i think everything you said here is completely wrong. just bc lana used older songs doesn't mean she dropped her original concept bc they actually do fit into the concept quite well. no, they weren't written for this record but they didn't fit the records she was making when she made those songs so she put them aside til they did fit a concept. some were leaked but thats irrelevant since they were never officially released til then. its just like how yosemite was written for lust for life but fits chemtrails' concept better or how california and the next best american record fit norman's concept perfectly. and songs like black bathing suit and beautiful weren't outtakes so idk what that's about and they do fit blue banisters' concept if you keep in mind that the concept isn't just about her family, but about her whole life and what's important to her which includes her struggles with the media, not just her family. the album isn't sonically cohesive and can feel a bit messy but it definitely has a clear concept and still feels like a proper album. like when i play the album for non-fans who don't know a the history of the leaked songs and whatnot they don't see the album as a mess or lacking a concept. unpopular opinion but even tho i like ocean blvd more than blue banisters, i'd say blue banisters has a clearer concept and overall theme than ocean blvd.