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Columbia, MD @ All Things Go Music Festival - October 1st, 2023

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13 minutes ago, venicebitch said:

 

replacing A&W for NFR as an opener is such a downgrade wtf :toofloppy:

I agree

NFR is one of my fav songs of hers (her second best title track IMO) but a shortened NFR just doesn't work as an opener on this tour
A&W was much more dramatic and was actually from the current album which the tour is supposed to promote lol

and the other songs don't go as smoothly I think with this change

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4 minutes ago, Rico25 said:

I agree

NFR is one of my fav songs of hers (her second best title track IMO) but a shortened NFR just doesn't work as an opener on this tour
A&W was much more dramatic and was actually from the current album which the tour is supposed to promote lol

and the other songs don't go as smoothly I think with this change

and nature boy intro was sooooooo good and dramatic like... as her tour looks get better every show the show itself gets worse, european leg of this tour won i fear

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11 hours ago, shadesofblue said:

I interpret it much like the conspiracy theories surrounding Marilyn Monroe's death, suggesting it wasn't suicide but rather CIA involvement. In the song Hope, I see it as a metaphor for the challenges faced by women in the spotlight, where speaking one's mind can lead to trouble with those in positions of power.

found a quote from lana ive been seriously been looking for since she first did the hope choreo which i think really explains it! Its basically what everyone’s guesses just like a tad more specific. 

 

https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/lana-del-rey-billboard-cover-story-2019-8527901/

When discussing the song hope she says:

 

“It was staggered with references from living in Hollywood and seeing so many things that didn’t look right to me, things that I never thought I’d have permission to talk about, because everyone knew and no one ever said anything. The culture only changed in the last two years as to whether people would believe you. And I’ve been in this business now for 15 years!”

 

Earlier in the story she mentions women in the industry being considered crazy for not fitting into categories and expectations etc. 

So I’ve always interpreted the cia segment of hope dance as women in the music industry (it also applies to the common woman) reporting sexual abuse or wanting to and being dismissed, belittled and ignored or even further abused in court like Kesha. The CIA guy would represent anyone in a position of power including law enforcement who helps to normalize and facilitate abuse. It’s about the silencing of women, and how those that speak up or “act out” are deemed crazy or hysteric, even though any “hysteria” they show usually stems from being treated as a crazy liar. Her being dragged off could either indicate being taken to a mental hospital because they’ve made her crazy or are still trying to paint her as such, or more broadly and maybe simultaneously the metaphoric killing of her hope and her spirit. 

Off topic and re marilyn, a lot of hardcore devoted MM fans (or at least from what I’ve seen)  actually reject the CIA/murder conspiracy so I wonder if Lana does as well but it is clear I think to most people how outside forces like misogynist stigma and mistreatment played into her death so she definitely fits into this story in that sense. 
I’m already rambling but I could go on and on forever so I’ll cut it off here. :) 

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1 hour ago, violettiaras said:

found a quote from lana ive been seriously been looking for since she first did the hope choreo which i think really explains it! Its basically what everyone’s guesses just like a tad more specific. 

 

https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/lana-del-rey-billboard-cover-story-2019-8527901/

When discussing the song hope she says:

 

“It was staggered with references from living in Hollywood and seeing so many things that didn’t look right to me, things that I never thought I’d have permission to talk about, because everyone knew and no one ever said anything. The culture only changed in the last two years as to whether people would believe you. And I’ve been in this business now for 15 years!”

 

Earlier in the story she mentions women in the industry being considered crazy for not fitting into categories and expectations etc. 

So I’ve always interpreted the cia segment of hope dance as women in the music industry (it also applies to the common woman) reporting sexual abuse or wanting to and being dismissed, belittled and ignored or even further abused in court like Kesha. The CIA guy would represent anyone in a position of power including law enforcement who helps to normalize and facilitate abuse. It’s about the silencing of women, and how those that speak up or “act out” are deemed crazy or hysteric, even though any “hysteria” they show usually stems from being treated as a crazy liar. Her being dragged off could either indicate being taken to a mental hospital because they’ve made her crazy or are still trying to paint her as such, or more broadly and maybe simultaneously the metaphoric killing of her hope and her spirit. 

Off topic and re marilyn, a lot of hardcore devoted MM fans (or at least from what I’ve seen)  actually reject the CIA/murder conspiracy so I wonder if Lana does as well but it is clear I think to most people how outside forces like misogynist stigma and mistreatment played into her death so she definitely fits into this story in that sense. 
I’m already rambling but I could go on and on forever so I’ll cut it off here. :) 

You nailed it, and I appreciate your insights.:heart:

I might not know much about MM, but I agree the song metaphorically captures a common struggle. Powerful folks try to control women by discrediting them, even considering institutionalizing them to silence them.

In my view, those labeled "crazy" are often just hurt individuals seeking support to be heard. Lana's experiences highlight this challenge faced by women who speak out. The media labeling Lana a "sad girl" and discrediting her for expressing her emotions underscores the problem. She's just telling her unfiltered truth.

This theme connects with many, and can be applied to various situations. This also applies to famous people such as Britney and Kesha who faced dismissal for too long. The song HIADTFAWLMBIHI is a prime example. They should have been empowered, not cast aside.


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6 hours ago, violettiaras said:

It’s about the silencing of women, and how those that speak up or “act out” are deemed crazy or hysteric, even though any “hysteria” they show usually stems from being treated as a crazy liar. Her being dragged off could either indicate being taken to a mental hospital because they’ve made her crazy or are still trying to paint her as such, or more broadly and maybe simultaneously the metaphoric killing of her hope and her spirit. 

Reminds me of Britney too

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