Artists caught lying about songwriting credits

[Barry 5,972]

17 minutes ago, Mer said:

I prefer the Future version as you can tell it is authentic to him, if he released it it would be one of his biggest songs and it fits him. Imagine creating this hit song you probably know is going to be massive especially like 11 years ago when he was not really that popular or rich yet and then the producer sold it to Beyonce without telling him and didn't let him release it. Obviously he got a lot of money probably in the end but was still kind of stole off him. Then Beyonce and Jay-Z just re-do the song basically copying everything and just changing it around a little and don't even acknowledge you had anything to do with it.

Beyonce even said this...

On the song, Drunk in Love. She believes the track worked well because they just had fun.

She explained: “I kind of free-styled the verse and Jay went in and started flowing out his verse. We just kinda had a party. It was so great because it wasn’t about any ego, we weren’t trying to make a hit record, we were just having fun and I think you can hear that in the record.”

When she said "We weren't trying to make a hit record" it's probably the only true thing she said there as they bought the hit record

[williamprb 2,007]

To think that avril literally had most of her hit songs given to her and her emo style artificially created by stylists is rlly sad 

[Embach 45,092]

1 minute ago, williamprb said:

To think that avril literally had most of her hit songs given to her and her emo style artificially created by stylists is rlly sad 

Wait she's not a songwriter!? 

[evalionisameme 13,900]

Just now, Embach said:

Wait she's not a songwriter!? 

an exaggeration-TBDT onwards is all her mostly- Let Go was her choice of clothing but the marketing etc+ the Matrix songs were highly manufactured- she wasn't the primary songwriter of those ones.

she was essentially the Britney Spears of pop rock

[Liz Taylor Blues 18,853]

1 hour ago, Orville Peck said:

Lana Del Rey claims that she wrote Yayo, but this is a complete lie because demos written by Lizzy Grant already existed since 2007. 

Lana Del Rey keeps poor Lizzy Grant and May Jailer in her basement writing all her endless songs while she gets all the money and the credit......

[Liz Taylor Blues 18,853]

Hmm.... the antichrist being a liar.......

Spoiler

obvs i'm kidding lmao

 

[TheBoss 13,517]

4 hours ago, evalionisameme said:

Love Charles but she’s known for lying about this- she worked with a ghostwriter for fancy and praised Iggy's skills as a rapper still 😭

Also those melodies were probably recycled like all of miss max songs 

honestly I love when artist don’t give up on melodies, songwriters like Lana or Carly Rae Jepsen do this all the time

6 hours ago, PARADIXO said:

 

AND producer 

 

AND vocal engineer, she’s literally the epitome of an artist  Björk you better watch out on my faves list!

[TheBoss 13,517]

17 hours ago, honey dew said:

 

Oh shut the….And star power without a good song is worthless. We would never hear about Beyonce, rihanna or ariana if they had to write their own songs. Their stardom is a result of hits written by talented songwriters. It takes both. Perhaps we don’t hear about songwriters cuz they are massively undervalued, case in point this very thread. And your comment

I think both of you are right, there’s a lot pf extremely talented girls artist out there with a distinctive, look, sound, amazing voice and increidble star power but I’ve yet to hear THAT song from them, and their caarers have been stalled because of that

 

Chlöe and Bree Runway for example

[TheBoss 13,517]

4 hours ago, BartenderDeco said:

providing us with the lana tea and industry tea!

she is overrated as a writer though. for folklore she sacrificed lyrics over melody. red is her best album because she didn’t have to pull out a dictionary and use complex words to prove a point, having a good vocabulary doesn’t make you a great writer

not with songs like stay stay stay, not on my watch!

[Embach 45,092]

4 hours ago, BartenderDeco said:

having a good vocabulary doesn’t make you a great writer

She thinks that spelling is fun

[williamprb 2,007]

How did the person who solo wrote last kiss also write stay stay stay solo

[Crazy Husband Thief 3,907]

6 hours ago, Nectar Of The Puss said:

 

Still crap, sorry. I don’t think she's a good writer at all.

[evalionisameme 13,900]

2 hours ago, TheBoss said:

I think both of you are right, there’s a lot pf extremely talented girls artist out there with a distinctive, look, sound, amazing voice and increidble star power but I’ve yet to hear THAT song from them, and their caarers have been stalled because of that

 

Chlöe and Bree Runway for example

Bree doesn’t have a distinctive look tbh- she gives me standard industry runway model 

[dyktatuob 1,233]

the way this thread was about artists lying about writing their songs and it turned into a discourse about singers vs writers 

 

imo being a singer is just as important as being a songwriter it's just that songwriters are so undervalued in the industry and don't get as much credit as the artist which is sad 

[SlowGinFizzzz 15,354]

Oh also, while we're trashing discussing Taylor Swift and her songwriting, let me just mention that this woman has some nerve demanding royalties for that one Olivia Rodrigo song when a few years earlier she herself copied a whole ass chorus from Lana without giving her any credit and used it on one of the most succe$$ful songs of her career. 

[williamprb 2,007]

omg stop the fact every olivia rodrigo song has a song that sounds just too similar is so funny

[dyktatuob 1,233]

30 minutes ago, SlowGinFizzzz said:

Oh also, while we're trashing discussing Taylor Swift and her songwriting, let me just mention that this woman has some nerve demanding royalties for that one Olivia Rodrigo song when a few years earlier she herself copied a whole ass chorus from Lana without giving her any credit and used it on one of the most succe$$ful songs of her career. 

how is it taylor's fault that olivia copied her song without giving her credit at first lol 

 

 

if the producers and writers on Without You think taylor copied them id like to see them take it to court but again the songs aren't even that similar 

[baddisease 17,953]

7 hours ago, Mer said:

Beyonces great. Best concert I’ve been to. Idk what the point of this discourse is—I couldn’t care less if she wrote her songs. But songwriting credits pay more, and I think Beyoncé deserves as much money as she can get for the songs she put out; because who would listen to Future singing Drunk In Love anyway 

 

I'd listen to that.

[Nectar Of The Puss 1,103]

2 hours ago, Crazy Husband Thief said:

Still crap, sorry. I don’t think she's a good writer at all.

[SlowGinFizzzz 15,354]

26 minutes ago, Nectar Of The Puss said:

Nice words, beautiful words. Maybe next time she could try coming up with a memorable melody.