Fake Nails 1 Posted October 29, 2012 I really like her fake nails 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hundred Dollar Bill 21,805 Posted October 29, 2012 But if we want to talk overrated, The Beatles undoubtedly hold that #1 spot. And i'm sure they will never be dethroned. Oy, don't get me started on the overrated Beatles. I was standing in the checkout line at the grocery store today and they were selling this big, thick magazine entirely on the Beatles. It's a huge, global cult. I need to go to bed. This is me getting you started. TELL ME ABOUT WHY THEY ARE OVERRATED. I want to know how your mind works. It will be really interesting to read. Please. :3 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FREEDOM 310 Posted October 29, 2012 I love it when sings slightly off tune, so many emotions that it kinda cripples her voice, I love the fact that she does her own thing on stage and doesn't talk much with the audience, I don't like the babyish screams that she wails out during MDM, I love her brunette hair over blonde 0 Quote ~xxx~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrettyBaby 2,220 Posted October 29, 2012 Nirvana is regarded as highly as they are today because of great timing--timing in two cases: their rise and their fall (and it, of course, helps greatly that their fall came about from a suicide). They are way high up there in the list of most overrated. But if we want to talk overrated, The Beatles undoubtedly hold that #1 spot. And i'm sure they will never be dethroned. Oy, don't get me started on the overrated Beatles. I was standing in the checkout line at the grocery store today and they were selling this big, thick magazine entirely on the Beatles. It's a huge, global cult. Are we soul-siblings or something? I keep telling people how those are the two most overrated bands in rock history! (Except I rank Nirvana at #1. The Beatles are even more worshipped... but they're also a better band imo.) And EE basically just reeled off my top 5 grunge bands list. You guys wanna be my sister wives? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poison Ivy 1,588 Posted October 29, 2012 I'm so glad someone called the Beatles overrated, it was about time Otherwise - I get Nirvana, but how on earth are Elvis and Nabokov's literature hipster now? Does she actually have a tattoo with his name misspelled though that'd be funnier than people with misleading Chinese characters tattoos or something. To be more on topic, hmm. I think Motel 6 is really great, I don't see it mentioned much but I love it. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FREEDOM 310 Posted October 29, 2012 I'm so glad someone called the Beatles overrated, it was about time EXPLAIN!!! can't hit me with that bombshell and leave!! how....? what....? why....? I think I'm gunna go sit in a corner and cry.... 1 Quote ~xxx~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YUNGATA 14,955 Posted October 29, 2012 EXPLAIN!!! can't hit me with that bombshell and leave!! how....? what....? why....? I think I'm gunna go sit in a corner and cry.... The fact that so many books still name the Beatles "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success: the Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worth of being saved. In a sense the Beatles are emblematic of the status of rock criticism as a whole: too much attention to commercial phenomena (be it grunge or U2) and too little attention to the merits of real musicians. If somebody composes the most divine music but no major label picks him up and sells him around the world, a lot of rock critics will ignore him. If a major label picks up a musician who is as stereotyped as one can be but launches her or him worldwide, your average critic will waste rivers of ink on her or him. This is the sad status of rock criticism: rock critics are basically publicists working for free for major labels, distributors and record stores. They simply publicize what the music business wants to make money with. Hopefully, one not-too-distant day, there will be a clear demarcation between a great musician like Tim Buckley, who never sold much, and commercial products like the Beatles. And rock critics will study more of rock history and realize who invented what and who simply exploited it commercially. Beatles' "aryan" music removed any trace of black music from rock and roll: it replaced syncopated african rhythm with linear western melody, and lusty black attitudes with cute white-kid smiles. Contemporary musicians never spoke highly of the Beatles, and for a good reason. They could not figure out why the Beatles' songs should be regarded more highly than their own. They knew that the Beatles were simply lucky to become a folk phenomenon (thanks to "Beatlemania", which had nothing to do with their musical merits). THat phenomenon kept alive interest in their (mediocre) musical endeavours to this day. Nothing else grants the Beatles more attention than, say, the Kinks or the Rolling Stones. There was nothing intrinsically better in the Beatles' music. Ray Davies of the Kinks was certainly a far better songwriter than Lennon & McCartney. The Stones were certainly much more skilled musicians than the 'Fab Fours'. And Pete Townshend was a far more accomplished composer, capable of "Tommy" and "Quadrophenia". Not to mention later and far greater British musicians. Not to mention the American musicians who created what the Beatles later sold to the masses. The Beatles sold a lot of records not because they were the greatest musicians but simply because their music was easy to sell to the masses: it had no difficult content, it had no technical innovations, it had no creative depth. They wrote a bunch of catchy 3-minute ditties and they were photogenic. - Pierro Scaruffi 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 984 Posted October 29, 2012 I tried listening to the Beatles a few times and couldn't get into them. I find them hugely overrated actually. Oh and the Tumblr hipster phenomena over John Lennon - talk about ridiculous. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FREEDOM 310 Posted October 29, 2012 The Beatles sold a lot of records not because they were the greatest musicians but simply because their music was easy to sell to the masses: it had no difficult content, it had no technical innovations, it had no creative depth. They wrote a bunch of catchy 3-minute ditties and they were photogenic. - Pierro Scaruffi All the points are good (although i don't agree! ) but the last, the Beatles revolutionized rock music, they brought it to the next level because they did what others hadn't! 0 Quote ~xxx~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poison Ivy 1,588 Posted October 29, 2012 Well, I guess our point was that the 'next level' wasn't exactly an improvement. But don't get me wrong, I don't think their music is bad or anything I like a few songs, they are catchy and all, but not what people make them out to be. The "greatest rock band ever!!!!" idea about them and the amount of credit they get is what makes me call them overrated. [/leaving this to people with much more music knowledge than me] 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrettyBaby 2,220 Posted October 29, 2012 Oh and the Tumblr hipster phenomena over John Lennon - talk about ridiculous. That particular brand of ridiculousness has been going on for more than 30 years :/ All the points are good (although i don't agree! ) but the last, the Beatles revolutionized rock music, they brought it to the next level because they did what others hadn't! Well, first they tranquilized it. I think that's Scaruffi's point, but I think it's more true for their early period. I'd love to take a music history class to examine how much of the Beatles' later music was truly revolutionary. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lola 6,642 Posted October 29, 2012 i love the beatles but they really are overrated. the most overrated thing, in my opinion, is james dean though. 1 Quote Caesar said he’d fall in love with me if I was older. I own all of Mexico and I got my own roller-coaster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 984 Posted October 29, 2012 i love the beatles but they really are overrated. the most overrated thing, in my opinion, is james dean though. Elizabeth Taylor > Every actor and actress 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lola 6,642 Posted October 29, 2012 Elizabeth Taylor > Every actor and actress i've only seen her in giant. i bought every movie james dean is in (3 haha) because everybody's always saying he was the hottest most talented actor the world has ever seen and he deserves 3 oscars for every performance he's ever given. then i watched the movies and was like: yeah, he's cool and can act but...i was expecting a bit more. 0 Quote Caesar said he’d fall in love with me if I was older. I own all of Mexico and I got my own roller-coaster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 984 Posted October 29, 2012 i've only seen her in giant. i bought every movie james dean is in (3 haha) because everybody's always saying he was the hottest most talented actor the world has ever seen and he deserves 3 oscars for every performance he's ever given. then i watched the movies and was like: yeah, he's cool and can act but...i was expecting a bit more. Watch "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" and "Suddenly, Last Summer" 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lola 6,642 Posted October 29, 2012 Watch "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" and "Suddenly, Last Summer" i will 0 Quote Caesar said he’d fall in love with me if I was older. I own all of Mexico and I got my own roller-coaster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilentity 13,347 Posted October 29, 2012 And EE basically just reeled off my top 5 grunge bands list. You guys wanna be my sister wives? Sure, I'll borrow SitarHero's sister wife costume when he's done with it. 1 Quote Stalking you has sorta become like my occupation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrettyBaby 2,220 Posted October 29, 2012 Sure, I'll borrow SitarHero's sister wife costume when he's done with it. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FREEDOM 310 Posted October 29, 2012 Watch "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" and "Suddenly, Last Summer" I am devoted to "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" the play and the film, Elizabeth Taylor breathtaking!! You've changed your name and avatar!! 0 Quote ~xxx~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myriam 559 Posted October 29, 2012 i love the beatles but they really are overrated. the most overrated thing, in my opinion, is james dean though. Haven't seen any of his performances so I wouldn't know, but yet I am somehow in love with him. Love his bad boy style and he's gorgeous! 2 Quote Long hair, Lana that's my bitch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites