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I don't think Cola should get dropped off from Lana's live set list. Believe it or not hearing its infamous first line live is a highlight.

Let me apologize in advance for tldr, but in broad strokes she's had several different kinds of impacts:
 
To Pop music: Attention to detail, as in lush orchestrations, melody, emotional expression in melody, and the patience and confidence to go slow. Details are also historical in the sense that she is the fan of older-era music and thinks that there is more to be mined there in terms of extending styles and in terms of dropping references. She's certainly not the first artist to do any of these things, of course. I think she shares with Kate Bush a kind of courage to break from the mainstream and a conviction to do the kind of stuff she likes, and as with Kate Bush, to the extent she succeeds, she encourages other artists to do the same. Also as with Kate Bush, her videography is significant. Comparing LDR's videos to others often seems like comparing The Seventh Seal to The Revenge of the Nerds pt. 3.
 
To Music criticism: BTD debunked music criticism in the sense of showing the critical community could be against something that the general public actually liked. In effect, the critical community could not predict or understand why people liked her music, and as such showed itself woefully deficient at doing their jobs. The issue of "authenticity", while people made a big deal of it, always seemed to me to be a red herring. It was the singing and the music, not an implied message or musical pedigree, that people responded to (and critics did not). I recommend looking at the Tiny Mixtapes reviews of BTD, UV, and HM to see an especially eventful evolution in a critical opinion of her. 
 
To Feminism: I think when the smoke clears it will be the case that LDR's ambivalent stance on feminism actually made her a feminism poster-girl, simply because she did all the stuff expected from males but got blamed for it far more than they did. As such she implicitly defines someone who should be given positive attention by feminists, not negative. Liz Phair made this point about LDR well before LDR's feminism-quote faux pas (I wonder if she still holds that opinion). Another way of stating the argument is this: LDR has songs where she's hung up on a guy, but you don't think Van Halen, Chris Isaak, Frank Sinatra (or countless others) have similar amounts of songs about obsessive love interests? Well if you're ragging on her but not them, then you are in some sense anti-feminist by not supporting gender-irrelevancy in freedom of choice for (legal) human behavior. I think videos like Ride complicate the issue, but they don't undermine them. There the issue is whether art has any moral or social obligation to promote feminism, or any other kind of humanism or pro-social cause, no matter what. Certainly a lot of art does this, and that's fine, but the deeper issue is whether it's a requirement for something to be art (e.g., a lot of people think Nabokov's Lolita is a great book, but the book was still banned by some on moral grounds and/or was not considered art by some).
 
Shout out to Morrissey: I might cite this guy as an "influence" on LDR, but in fact he is just a great precursor with respect to her, meaning he's similar to LDR, imo, but much much more extreme on certain dimensions of behavior. It is therefore interesting to compare his experiences with the media with LDR's. I think he's a great singer/songwriter. He's also sadcore like LDR yet more often upbeat musically. However, his sadcore lyrically is so much more extreme than LDR's, that he's one of the reasons I don't get why people refer to LDR's songs as being sad (I mean compared to him, LDR seems closer to Kimbra). He's also VERY unfiltered with respect to what he will say to the media on issues that are important to him. In particular his comments on suicide are just mind-boggling (e.g., "it's admirable" though he would not elect to do so himself--Larry King 2015 about 16:30 into the interview, and he was one of the few people, in 1995, to have ever said he admired Kurt Cobain's suicide). He is an acknowledged depressive, so the media goes easy on him. He is male too, of course, and I suspect that also helped him. He doesn't like current pop. Larry King 2015 asked him about Sam Smith and Noel Gallagher (17:30) into the interview, he basically declined from saying anything other than he didn't like anything at all; however, when Larry asked him about Sinatra, Morrisey did a shout out to Nancy Sinatra, which makes me wonder how he would have responded if Larry had asked about LDR. Probably very disdainfully, but we'll probably never know.
 
Just some minor quibbles.
 
Chris Isaak on the influencee list: I recall LDR being compared to CI many times but not the other way around. I vaguely remember a video interview where LDR said she liked him (around the same time I heard about the French referring to LDR as CI's "granddaughter"--wish I could find the cite for that). I think it makes perfect sense that LDR would like CI quite a lot, as he's kind of an evolved Elvis, and CI cites Elvis as a major influence.
 
Name Dropping as an LDR influence on others: I see LDR's name dropping as part of her assimilation of a general hip-hop/rap influence where name dropping is common (e.g. Tyler the Creator dropping Bruno Mars' name in Yonkers, in 2011). I give LDR credit for doing name-dropping especially good, though sadly she does this the best in her unreleased  (e.g., Last Girl on Earth, Axl Rose Husband). On the other hand, it may be the case that name-dropping became more popular in pop after her, idk.
 
Lana bringing retro back: I think both LDR and Adele have cited Amy Winehouse as the main influence on that. But ditto my last "on the other hand".

I remember back when gaga blew up every musician/artist/pop star its seems were wearing weird shit and trying to be quirky in an OTT manner. Then when Lana came on the scene everything changed over night basically. Music became slower more sinister and more serious. Same goes for fashion.

I really do think that's why albums like ARTPOP during that time flopped. No one wanted OTT anymore. They wanted someone who was serious and  who was different but in another type of way. That person was/is Lana....

The only Taylor that I know is Taylor Secman

Forbes did a review of last year's event --> http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimdobson/2015/07/17/leonardo-dicaprio-gala-in-st-tropez-features-the-most-amazing-celebrity-auction-of-all-time/#59a7415115d2
And it says the last performance done by Elton John was private although I managed to find this video of the event
Including a snippet of the performance https://youtu.be/-nsClUNwCWM
(So I guess no videos on Lana's performance)
 
Edit: a chance to meet the sucker privately http://lifestyle.one/grazia/celebrity/news/meet-leonardo-dicaprio/ tomorrow which I doubt it's still available (but imagine meeting Lana in the process)
Rich me in an alternative universe might want to go to see Lana, but would cringe throughout the whole event

I always felt that Lana did an impact in our musical/pop/alternative scene, but I always feel it's because I'm biased fan (I'm blinded by her <3)
an impact thread is a nice addition to this forum but some fans take it way seriously to levels of "exposing" others of copying her
Most embarrassingly this

People need to understand that their "favs" didn't invent shit, so calling out someone for a small stylistic change or a tiny detail is ridiculous and because of the fan and artist relationship nowadays it hurts the Artist's reputation, a lot of fans give bad image to the artist because of their immature behavior.
 
I had to mention this cause a lot of fans don't know the line between copying/inspiration/coincidence, also it's more embarrassing when people callout the artist as a result

From http://www.eonline.com/news/780656/kanye-west-and-taylor-swift-s-famous-conversation-read-the-full-transcript-from-kim-kardashian-s-snapchat:
Kanye West on the phone with Taylor Swift: "You still got the Nashville number?"
Taylor Swift: "I still have the Nashville umm area code, but I had to change it."
Kanye West reads the "Famous" lyric: "To all my southside n----s that know me best, I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex."
Taylor Swift: "I'm like this close to overexposure."
Kanye West: "Oh, well this I think this a really cool thing to have."
Taylor Swift: "I know, I mean it's like a compliment, kind of."
Kanye West: "All I give a f--k about is you as a person and as a friend, I want things that make you feel good. "
Taylor Swift: "That's sweet."
 
Taylor Swift: "And then the flowers that you sent me, I like Instagrammed a picture of them and it's like the most Instagram likes I've ever gotten. It was like 2.7" [video cuts off]Kanye West: "I don't want to do rap that makes people feel bad."
Taylor Swift: "Umm, yeah I mean go with whatever line you think is better. It's obviously very tongue in cheek either way. And I really appreciate you telling me about it, that's really nice."
Kanye West: "Oh yeah, I just had a responsibility to you as a friend you know, and I mean thanks for being so cool about it."
Taylor Swift: "Aw thanks. Um yeah I really appreciate it, like the heads up is so nice. [inaudible] Even asking or seeing if I would be okay with it and I just really appreciate it. Like I would never expect you to like tell me about a line in one of your songs."
Kanye West: "It's pretty crazy."
Kanye West: "Relationships are more important than punch lines, ya know?"
Taylor Swift: "I don't think anyone would listen to that and be like that's a real diss she must be crying. You've gotta tell the story the way that it happened to you and the way that you experienced it. You honestly didn't know who I was before that. It doesn't matter that I sold 7 million of that album before you did that which is what happened, you didn't know who I was before that. It's fine."
Taylor Swift: "I might be in debt, but I can make these things happen. I have the ideas to do it and I create these things and concepts. I'm always going to respect you. I'm really glad that you have the respect to call me and tell me that as a friend about the song. It's a really cool thing to do and a really good show of friendship so thank you."
Kanye West: "Thank you, too."
Taylor Swift: "And you know, if people ask me about it I think it would be great for me to be like, ‘Look, he called me and told me the line before it came out. Jokes on you guys, We're fine.'
You guys want to call this a feud; you want to call this throwing shade but right after the song comes out I'm going to be on a Grammys red carpet and they're going to ask me about it and I'll be like, ‘He called me.' It's awesome that you're so outspoken about this and be like, ‘Yeah, she does. It made her famous.' Its more provocative to say ‘might still have sex…' It's doesn't matter to me. There's not like one [line] that hurts my feelings and one that doesn't."

like i didnt really care about the kanye line, or anything about taylor swift... but oh my god taylor is such a bitch for pulling that shit.

pitchfork article about it

http://pitchfork.com/news/66880-kim-kardashian-reveals-taylor-swift-signed-off-on-kanyes-infamous-famous-line/?mbid=social_twitter

check her snapchat @kimkardashian i'll update the post once i find a youtube link of the full video but here's most of the clips compiled together: https://twitter.com/partylikeits07/status/754872367306960896
 
i'm living for this mess.. Kim really came through.. Ride and Without You's revenge!
 
edit: taylor's response: https://www.instagram.com/p/BH_TCz4DeSj/
 

ur fucking joking.... u thought that lyric was about reservations at an indian restaurant 

Ok, no information about a new alboom? That is a nice change for once not to talk about it way in advance.
 
Not here for Rick Nowels. His productions suck. 1 or 2 songs okay, but not the whole record. 
 
I hope it's not as boring as Floppymoon.

A high quality video of Lana twerking

What do u think twerking is

OMG she done twerked! 

oh my god

better twerking quality
 
https://twitter.com/LDReynation/status/754815769985384448
 
The girly screams are so me JAJAJAJA 

You're right, Lollapalooza will be her most important show this year. She's headlining the 25th anniversary of one of the most legendary festivals in history... I hope she knows that. The press will be huge.

I would sooooo happy. Lana Del Rey fucking twerking? Wow, I would die

Is she even gonna be in the vid

and he served us shaky HM homemade videos realness

inb4 it's a music to watch boys to lyric video

Sketched a still from lizzy index mag interview video always loved that look. only my second ever digital drawing or w/e so

it's actually the most streamed album track on the record

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHiIsEEh5gE/