Shadowheart

okay, i do kinda agree.
 
Now that i think about it, whenever i listen to Punish i kinda relate it to other shameful sexual behaviors then the crime in question. I wish Punish was honestly not about the crime of pdf, but rather some fetish that is harming physically, or mentally the narrator (like hardcore bdsm, humiliation, cuckolding, cheating or smth). I used to read a lot about such mental developments in people and how it is based on their past, they do struggle with shame and hatred towards themselves because of the things that turn them on, so phrases like "punished by love" do make sense, and whenever i listen to the song i think about the lyrics that way (well apart from the very specific Plauche name drop of course, which in my opinion is the only lyric that points directly at pederasty).
 
edit: also considering the whole album called "Perverts", and not "Pedophiles" i think it would fit the narrative a bit better to dive deep into the perversion and different types of darkness that comes within, not focusing on crimes or specific cases like Plauche

I get your point, however i am the polar opposite. I love how heavy the topics of her art are, this is really the first artist i have discovered that writes about such stuff and i fucking love it
 
the thing about Punish, i honestly always understood the song personally the way that the lyrics can be both from POVs of the predator and the victim. I do obviously know the lore described by Hayden, but i guess good art makes people look at it from multiple angles

her music yall.. i have no one to talk to about it.. whenever i start talking about my favourite artist and her song when she sings from the perspective of a child molester punishing themselves on my corporate work open space i get the looks   no one gets me

i have my whole arm in ethel-inspired tattoos 
 
there is always a risk of a person going bananas, i do have a lana-inspired tattoo, and the times around QFTC or her marrying a Trumpie were really stressful
 
however it is always good and healthy to separate art from an artist. the way Preachers Daughter changed me by touching childhood/family trauma will stick w/ me and mean a lot forever, no matter if I agree with Hayden on certain topics or not

i have my whole arm in ethel-inspired tattoos 
 
there is always a risk of a person going bananas, i do have a lana-inspired tattoo, and the times around QFTC or her marrying a Trumpie were really stressful
 
however it is always good and healthy to separate art from an artist. the way Preachers Daughter changed me by touching childhood/family trauma will stick w/ me and mean a lot forever, no matter if I agree with Hayden on certain topics or not

these being 1. a very obvious joke tweet that you can find unfunny 2. a non-issue? 3. THIRTEEN years ago 4. a silly shirt
 
can't wait for this thread to slow down soon cuz all these attempts at causing drama are so lame 

its lowkey giving Colleen Ballinger parasocial groupchats 

its lowkey giving Colleen Ballinger parasocial groupchats 

stargirl 
prisoner 
lust for life 
money power glory remix
the abyss 

well she’s a bit silly isn’t she 

does she play roblox with them too or?

its lowkey giving Colleen Ballinger parasocial groupchats 

its lowkey giving Colleen Ballinger parasocial groupchats 

its lowkey giving Colleen Ballinger parasocial groupchats 

its lowkey giving Colleen Ballinger parasocial groupchats 

I have sympathy for the videos and bank thing. I don't have it around music she chose to put out there and then decided to take it back. That was on her. And nobody told her to make a Discord full of impressionable young fans, put music she'd eventually not want people to hear out in it, then give the Pikachu face when people get it and hear it.

Why was she in a discord chat with a bunch of immature teenagers in the first place?  Not blaming her or anything but what was it even for? Or was this from a long time ago?

u truly are obsessed! creating an account on Lana Del Rey stan forum 8 hours ago only to specifically post 1 comment about some random guy’s cover under Ethel Cain thread! 
 
normalize promoting your art without any shenanigans, your covers are beautiful

u truly are obsessed! creating an account on Lana Del Rey stan forum 8 hours ago only to specifically post 1 comment about some random guy’s cover under Ethel Cain thread! 
 
normalize promoting your art without any shenanigans, your covers are beautiful

u truly are obsessed! creating an account on Lana Del Rey stan forum 8 hours ago only to specifically post 1 comment about some random guy’s cover under Ethel Cain thread! 
 
normalize promoting your art without any shenanigans, your covers are beautiful

u truly are obsessed! creating an account on Lana Del Rey stan forum 8 hours ago only to specifically post 1 comment about some random guy’s cover under Ethel Cain thread! 
 
normalize promoting your art without any shenanigans, your covers are beautiful

u truly are obsessed! creating an account on Lana Del Rey stan forum 8 hours ago only to specifically post 1 comment about some random guy’s cover under Ethel Cain thread! 
 
normalize promoting your art without any shenanigans, your covers are beautiful

please do, especially pre-Ethel era, i have not heard most of the White Silas stuff, and self proclaimed real elitist fans gatekeep it like crazy while at the same time having and discussing 350+ stolen and unreleased songs of Lana.. 

please do, especially pre-Ethel era, i have not heard most of the White Silas stuff, and self proclaimed real elitist fans gatekeep it like crazy while at the same time having and discussing 350+ stolen and unreleased songs of Lana.. 

what do you mean at my own risk? could smth bad happen to me? I generally view her pre-Ethel work the same way I view Lizzy Grant/May Jailer work.