Jazzmin

I've seen her 6 times -
 
San Francisco, CA - 2014
Atlanta, GA - 2014
Music Midtown (ATL) - 2014
Noblesville, IN - 2015
Atlanta, GA - 2015
Lollapalooza (Chicago) - 2016
 
I also had tickets to a show in Ireland in 2013, but ended up not going last minute due to family issues.
Each show was a fabulous experience that holds so many memories I wish I could share, but I won't bore you all with them. I haven't had a chance to have a conversation with her or take a photo together, but she accepted a book I made for her in Atlanta 2015 within a minute of entering the stage (she kind of walked straight towards me) and I touched her hair at Lollapalooza when she leaned into my hand while taking a selfie with the guy in front of me.
I have pictures I took from each show in my signature!

i did! On Orange Warsaw Festival in Poland.

You beat me to it! (which comes as no surprise if I get myself to post several months after the release ; the fact that I respond to an old post may also seem to make no sense but it's such nutritional food for thought so...) I know the down-on-my-knees thing might seem a very plain double entendre which didn't necessarily need to have been written by a lyrical genius but in both songs the writers made great use of it IMHO. And yeah, it never ceases to amaze me how many phrases and motifs ND & LDR have in common. They both quote the very same song, the Americana imaginary, which Lana's so infatuated with, is also woven into Nicole's newest album. Although I highly doubt Nicole could've influenced Lana - maybe I just don't stay up-to-date with things... but well, as far as I know, Lana has never ever hinted that she'd stumbled upon the skeletal lullabies of a certain Stouffville angel. And she would have if it were the case. After all, that woman loves her "masters of every genre", hardly ever mentions anyone else (does she ever?), doesn't get tired of the first pages of "Lolita" despite having read them umpteen times (a fact mentioned roughly halfway through the broadcast) so I think she mostly plays the same records over and over again (can't find a proof but I guess you can see the logic of that, given her admiration for Kurt Cobain or Elvis), which in turn makes me suppose Lana won't be particularly keen on trawling the Internet on the lookout for as-yet-unknown singers. Or up-and-coming ones, for that matter. The other way round then? But Nicole sang "he hit me and it felt like a kiss" before Lana did!
 
So I'd rather put it down to the purely coincidental affinity of their souls, pretentious as it sounds.
 
 
Did you notice that she uses the very same concept in "Bad Disease"? "I got a bad disease / It's got me down on my knees" In that context her posture comes across as a scarcely erotic one. It's more, yeah, like you said, begging, I'd even risk - humiliation. Especially that a moment earlier she sings: "Oh my god", taking on a very desperate tone like in "The Blackest Day". In my view, this little common figure of speech perfectly reflects "the depths of utter desperation" she's going through in the song, when uttered by her emotional voice.

You know what, I believe her when she's saying "this song is actually about a group of teenagers who go out every night". To me it does not feel like a song she wrote about herself. The way I see it... Lana sees a girl who behaves the way she herself used to (in the story that her songs tell, at least), doesn't understand it anymore and kind of rhetorically asks her "why". Because Lizzie has changed. It might well remind her of her past, spotting someone doing what she used to do, but she doesn't address her past self directly.
 
That's why, I've got to confess, I fail to see the alleged lyrical connection between "Freak" and this track . (Maybe with the exception of the infamous "looking back, my past / It all seems stranger than a stranger" but I try to wipe it from my mind, such a clunky lyric, yuk!) Although I do appreciate other interpretations.

You know what, I believe her when she's saying "this song is actually about a group of teenagers who go out every night". To me it does not feel like a song she wrote about herself. The way I see it... Lana sees a girl who behaves the way she herself used to (in the story that her songs tell, at least), doesn't understand it anymore and kind of rhetorically asks her "why". Because Lizzie has changed. It might well remind her of her past, spotting someone doing what she used to do, but she doesn't address her past self directly.
 
That's why, I've got to confess, I fail to see the alleged lyrical connection between "Freak" and this track . (Maybe with the exception of the infamous "looking back, my past / It all seems stranger than a stranger" but I try to wipe it from my mind, such a clunky lyric, yuk!) Although I do appreciate other interpretations.

Cruel World
Body Electric
Sad Girl
Ultraviolence
Big Eyes
Ride
Black Beauty
Young & Beautiful
Pretty When You Cry
Old Money
Video Games
Shades of Cool
Brooklyn Baby
I Can Fly
Summertime Sadness
West Coast
 
"Born to Die" and "Cola" are officially boring live, "National Anthem" needed to be ditched long ago and "West Coast" could easily be stretched into a long outro with those synths,

these are two very different topics. Lana never addresses politics in her songs. 
 
And when it comes to drug references, religion or sex, she is the observer and doesn't give any justification for the behaviour of her protagonists. Therefor, she doesn't encourage anybody to do anything.

i feel like she's pretty neutral because she has problems w both parties, i def think she's more on the liberal side when it comes to social things like gay marriage etc,tho  i think her "i believe in the country america used to be" kinda lyrics and stuff doesn't mean like how republicans say it meaning they want racism and shit, but like a nostalgia for the past, the pop culture of the 50s-70s. idk how she is about economics and stuff tho, i feel like she doesn't really care abt stuff like that lol 

i feel like she probs has some traditional values, and nostalgia for the past that a lot of republicans have.. but honestly i think she just views the past as a simpler time because, since she wasn't actually there, it doesnt seem as complex, and she mostly hears and admires good things about the past. 

I think she always gets in trouble for the things she says, so she's being purposely careful and like she said "politically correct" in some of her statements to avoid being dragged by the media yet again for merely opening her mouth tbh.

Since the "Lana shot a music video" thread is kind of turning into a discussion of Lana's view on politics, I decided just to make a thread for it.
So, here's what there's to go off of so far..
She recently posted videos of herself on Instagram expressing her views on the importance of voting along with (oddly distributed) tweets. When asked about Trump by Elle ( ) Magazine UK she said, "There’s a lot to talk about. I mean, you know, although I believe that personality shouldn’t get in the way of people’s true politics and what they are actually standing for, I need more information from all of my potential candidates. From all of them. Democrats, Republications, I have a lot of conflicting feelings about all of them, to be politically correct. I need more time to figure out what they’re saying can pass through and is actually feasible. Not just with Trump but with Democratic potential candidates." She blocked an account on Twitter for editing a "Make America Great Again" cap on a picture of her. ​Apparently, according to her New York voter record, she was registered as a Democrat. She's an Obama supporter, having tweeted "Obama dropped the G Bomb in his address. God God God. Love you Obama. Love you God." in 2010. National Anthem & its music video  
And also, this article was posted sometime yesterday:
"Lana Del Rey Finally Gets Political"
http://www.inquisitr.com/3556723/lana-del-rey-finally-gets-political-speaks-to-young-fans-about-voting/

This theory sounds insanely random, but I'd love to hear more of what you have to say about this tbh

I don't think those are particularly well-written but it does fascinate me how her xerographic lyrics can take on inexpectable meanings that actually kind of contradict the previous ones. When I heard this song for the first time I was like: a. "this is one of those cute Lana songs that are fucking good to listen to even if they are bad" and b. "how does she collage two I-am-so-hot songs into a very romantic, cute piece and, even more importantly, how does she make me accept this solution without batting an eye?". It was only later that I took the trouble to check the years of the songs and it dawned upon me that it should be the other way around... You know, having gotten to know Delicious  & Serial Killer ("Wish I may, wish I might find my one true love tonight") beforehand, my brain automatically put those before the recently leaked stuff.
 
Anyway, this song is definitely to stay on my mp3-player, for its cuteness if for nothing else. I love it.

Oops, of course! I'm so goddamn chaotic. Thank you @@kristinaj!
 
 
Sorry, I completely forgot to add that "member=" code.
 
 
Now that I come to think about it, "anti-production" is not exactly the word I had on my mind while ruminating on Lana's lyrics, which I touched upon in the first place because IMHO they exemplify very well the "take-a-breath-and-the-idea-will-be-gone" conclusion that @@Monicker 's interlocutor eventually draws. I'm glad, though, that I sparked an interesting thought, even if by chance .

You should have thanked @kristinaj for bumping the thread, I was responding (well just reacting) to her post above mine. Also it's interesting that I'm not getting notifications for @slang mentions in posts, which seems to be a change in forum behavior (I did before), perhaps it's because the name is also a word, or perhaps because it's a broken behavior for everyone. I'll @evilentity as a query about that; he might know if it's a legit bug.   Lyrics are a complicated issue, and I've never thought of lyrics as the aspect that might be anti-produced in LDR's work, but I think that's a legitimate speculation/observation. Typically when I consider her lyrics I compare her to her peers and songs from the old days (i.e. the eras she's said to emulate) and I find her at least comparable (often favorably). It's interesting that when she covers a song they tend to have really excellent lyrics relative to the rest of the album (TOW, DLMBM) and she usually gets dinged for that in some reviews (e.g., "the song with the best lyrics is not hers", I think I've heard several times).

Thank you for refreshing this thread, @slang ! Brilliant thoughts on art don't have an expiry date.
 
It always astonished me how, after I got sucked into Lanaversum, I never minded Lana's cringe-worthy lyrics, anal about lyrics as I am. And no, I don't blindly worship everything she creates, it's just that they don't defer me from listening to her music although they surely would if sung by some other artist, even another of my favorite ones. It's not only about me enjoying her art the way it is (which is surely the case, too). It feels like reading a schoolgirl's diary, with hearts over the i's and a flagrant spelling mistake here and there, messily written because she's rushing for a date. So toe-curling but by the time I realize it, I've gotten too addicted to stop. Disarming? Cute? That's for sure. And there's something more.
 
Each and every idea has a right to exist here, nothing's too intimate, stupid, bad, shameful, you name it. That's what creates the ephemerality of Lana's music, as far as I can see. And while such conclusions might come naturally if we scrutinize the unreleased stuff, they come across as impressive to me if someone discusses a released album from an outsider's point of view.
 
Maybe that "roughness" - for the lack of a better word - is so strong that it remains palpable despite all the layers of (over)production?
In my book, Lana's style adds a quite interesting angle to her art and is no less important than her melodies or the meaning of her lyrics. Just like the melody of the words she chooses, I don't think it is "shallow" to appreciate it. 

I don't know, but Disco, Axl Rose Husband, and Afraid are some of my favorite songs, but these give me a weird feeling. it's almost like fear? Or an intense feel of sadness, I know even tho a lot of her songs give this sad vibe, these ones are different for me for some reason. I love hearing them but there's something about those songs that give me chills. What about you?

Brooklyn Baby makes me feel like I'm flying. I know it sounds stupid, but that's how it feels like.

She likes Mark Ryden's paintings. (Like she said here, they "drive her crazy").

Of course, it's not like we just beg for leaks then forget about them after two plays.

Digital version (polished, but not finished, and this time purposely cartoonish):
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

Ride --> National Anthem --> The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony (~~> Antonio Vivaldi - Four Seasons: La primavera I Allegro)


Subtly, the strings in Ride might remind you to Bittersweet, though fairly enough the arrangement is pretty common.
And I think it's a common knowledge that NA sampled Bittersweet.

(intro) Vera Blue - Hold --> Video Games
This got me wondering what it'd be like if they put on an electro version of VG live.
Does anyone have VG acapella for @butterflies to try to strip down and chillstep remix it?

*back from google* Oh, there's already one.

 
 
I was going to link my past post about wanting to hear Lana covers Lady Gaga - Summerboys, but I can't find it yet. That, and Boys Boys Boys are very Lana-ish, melodically and thematically. I even asked someone to sing it the way Lana sings Puppy Love and Hawaiian Tropic --that sugary sweet, skittish and bashful, demure yet flirty, Lolita-esque voice.
 

Not as ~idiotic as this person who did this
 

she invented music!