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"Incredible role model?" Are they fucking serious? Publicly encouraging youth to vape and get addicted to filling their lungs with poison is an incredible role model especially for a singer who relies on their lungs!

If some of you want to trash NFR saying it's a bad album, why don't you create a thread titled homophobic mess forever, cause that is the best way to describe your lack of taste. 

i think jack is amazing at letting the personality of whoever he works with shine, rather than trying to musically “talk over” the artist, in the way that btd’s production felt like it was taking lana del rey’s original vision and wrapping cellophane around it. i’m happy that none of the songs in nfr are overproduced enough to take away from the emotionality and lana’s voice (other than htd of course, a mess)
 
personally i’d love to see jack and lana work together again, but i also think it’ll be interesting to see her to work with someone new

She managed to age 10 years between 2014 and 2016

Seems like an unpopular opinion here but... NFR is by far my favorite Lana album. To me it feels grown up and so cohesive, kind of like a story from first to last song

Seems like an unpopular opinion here but... NFR is by far my favorite Lana album. To me it feels grown up and so cohesive, kind of like a story from first to last song

There's a reason why NFR recieved massive, universal acclaim and why it has attracted so many non-fans in a way her previous albums didn't.
 
Of course those people who expect Lana to always sound the same (dramatic, mysterious, cinematic) won't like it that much. And that's ok.
 
But it's been more than a month now. Aren't y'all tired of posting the same ''Jack's production sucks'' propaganda over and over again?
 

Lana was the one who wanted that sound for NFR. It's not Jack's fault. He did exactly what she wanted. Have you heard Taylor Swift "Lover" album? Jack produced Taylor's album too and I can tell, the mix and sound quality of the album is superb. Lots of bridges, instrumentals and great mix in "Lover".
 
This is like when Chuck works with other artists, the results are gorgeous but when she works with Lana, it's boring.
 
We can yell at Chuck and Jack until we're blue in the face but it's not their fault for how NFR sounds or why the photos or video look boring. Blame Lana.

And it sounds like you’re randomly bringing out personal attacks for no reason.
 
How is it kissing ass to say that the volume change in the instrumental section at 3:32 ish in HTD is done for artistic purposes? That is my interpretation of it. The whole song has an interplay between the vocals and backing.

Wow your rudeness isn’t appreciated. I did say “sounds to ME”.
 
Throughout the song, there are various production things going on, the production suddenly disappears and changes in the chorus at ‘this is how to disappear’, and to me, (NOTE I SAID ME), the final instrumental section follows the pattern of change and disruption to production in order to give a sense of ending.

yeah...I relistened to HTD and it sounds obviously intentional. It adds to the nostalgia factor of the song and the last verse’s subject matter

Honeymoon is not that good.

https://twitter.com/ultrasubversive/status/1178363388717682689?s=19
Suddenly I love Eclipse!

Every time I log in and check this or White Hot Forever thread, I always find the same 3 people either trashing Jack or trying to discredit NFR and elevate Honeymoon.    
 
All propaganda with no basis in reality! 

This is semi unrelated - but I wish I had this on film, but I installed Apple CarPlay in my car, so I can use Siri to control my music - I said "Play album Norman Fucking Rockwell by Lana Del Rey" and Siri replies "Ok, let's hear Summertime Sadness by Lana Del Rey" and I nearly had a laughing fit cause thats Lana at her live shows ahahahaha. 

I don’t get the complaint that the sound is sometimes too loud or too quiet. Most music is like that. It’s an effect used on purpose. Joni Mitchell did this all the time, and yes, it was on purpose. The Beatles often did this in their later years too. It’s supposed to add emphasis. I get so jazzed whenever the vocals switch takes like heck yes here we go! It adds anticipation on repeat listens. Lana probably just wanted to try this effect, and it works so well with her voice too. I’m sure you guys will get used to it and learn to love it too!

I'm almost not even looking forward to White Hot Forever because I don't know how this album can be topped. One of the best albums of all time and I don't say that often or easily.

Vaping is MORE dangerous them cigarettes because it has MORE nicotine and chemicals then cigarettes. People are literally dying from vaping on the spot. As crazy as this will sound, Lana's safer smoking cigarettes then Vaping. Vaping destroys lungs 10 X faster then cigerettes. Imagine what it's doing to her vocal cords. 
 
This is from a day ago
 
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/death-toll-vaping-lung-disease-20312159
 
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/11/health/vaping-lung-illness-illinois-teen-profile/index.html
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/31/health/vaping-marijuana-ecigarettes-sickness.html

 
Absolutely. Takes about 2 weeks for the waning off to be complete.Lana has no interest in quitting anything. She would have gotten those patches and have been done and over with it.
 
Vaping just happens to have more toxic chemicals and nicotine so it's just as hard to quit. By the time some people want to quit, they are either dead or in the hospital with collapse lungs. 

i mean, hate both  smoking kills slowly over time, vaping is giving lung diseases (& death) to teens and young adults who otherwise are in good health... i'd rather her not do either. did she say she was vaping to get off cigarettes?? i didn't know that. good for her!! but i still just don't want her touching either :/ i know recovering from addiction is incredibly hard and takes a lot of willpower and self determination (and outside help) but idk i'm just fjdhgvhjdfgshj concerned for her health. i wish she hadn't started either in the first place (i'm sorry i probably sound like everyone's least favorite mom but smoking in general just Really bothers me and i don't have the patience to be nice about it. it's all around evil)
 
anyways i hope yall don't hate me or get offended i just don't want anything to happen to her hsfdkhjgkh
 
edit: also should say that vaping is an addiction of it's own and i have friends who say they wanna quit, especially with all the articles coming out recently, but really don't seem to be making any effort like they know it's bad but think "that won't happen to me though" everyone thinks they're invincible until they're not. i might be a little bitter and projecting my friends onto lana but she doesn't seem to take it very seriously either, vaping on stage?? posting vids vaping to ariana grande and laughing when she said "don't vape" doesn't seem like she's really that concerned imo. i know it's her choice but i'm allowed to be concerned too 

I hate to say this because I don't want to sound ungrateful, but I am SO disappointed after seeing her at Jones Beach. I thought I was gonna cry each time a 7 year old song started. That was my 6th time seeing her, and not much has changed since the first time in 2015. She called it the "NFR!" tour and was saying things like "I can't wait to perform the album for you guys" and she plays 4 songs, 2 of which are Bartender and Doin Time (this is just a personal thing lmao). Just so, so disappointed. And if she adds the songs to the setlist later, then that's good for everyone else, but I'll be even MORE pissed tbh. 

Yeah, there are so many possibilities and that's why it's so frustrating that she opts to keep everything the same. Her shows don't have to be massive multi-million-dollar extravaganzas or anything, but some fresh ideas would not go astray.
 
Most importantly, I want her to actually sing. Did anyone see that clip from the night of the sound check where she said she was losing her voice? A few hours of sound checking should not cause her to lose her voice; it's not like she's belting. WTF? If her voice is really that fragile then it really is imperative that she stops vaping ...

i disagree, i kind of love the personal haphazard homespun amateurish quality to the way she posts...i like getting to see the person behind the art as opposed to a curated brand involving third parties

Imagine a big sailboat prop on one side of the stage, some dry ice fog resembling water, changing lights for sunrise and sunset mood, .... all the possibilties that come with it

I agree. But sadly that's too much work for Lana. Planting a peach tree is a far as she will go. What a fail. 
 

Imagine a big sailboat prop on one side of the stage, some dry ice fog resembling water, changing lights for sunrise and sunset mood, .... all the possibilties that come with it