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@@lola Totally agree. Oh, and Jim Morrison & Axl Rose were both alcoholics, and lots of Beat poets were too (like Kerouac & Ginsberg, for instance)...

Oh I agree with you that she puts a lot of thought into her actions, but at the same time it's like she so frequently misjudges people's reactions & they kinda end up escaping her control? Like the feminism comments, the thing about her & Barrie being the only true artists or whatever... I don't really know how to explain this, it's just an impression I get sometimes... As if she had this exact image of herself and sometimes got so surprised that the whole world doesn't see her / think of her in that exact same way, if this makes any sense. That's really naïve imo. Totally agree with you about the meth thing btw, I don't buy it for a single second tbh.

I don't know if "literally nothing" can't, but I agree that when it comes to music most opinions aren't. I mean, even music critics - who are supposedly (and the key-word here is 'supposedly'...) the most impartial listeners - are influenced by all sorts of stuff, from individual taste to preconceived notions about the artists they're reviewing to wanting to sound 'cool' & stay relevant. That's one of the aspects I was referring to when I mentioned her limitations as a songwriter; the lyrics can be unbelievably cheesy & cliché, she also repeats herself *a lot* & I'm not so sure how good she really is when it comes to the actual melodies. Personally, I don't think anything (or almost anything) she writes is ironic or 'meta'. I think Lana is in a way pretty naïve, and by that I mean she's the opposite of the calculating, business-savvy popstar who knows exactly what to say & do in order to turn most situations in her favour & manipulate public opinion. I think that's apparent in a lot of her attitudes, interviews, etc. but also in her lyrics. She's genuine & says exactly what she wants to say, and I think it had never crossed her mind that people could hate her for it (one of the reasons why I think she's never really gotten over the initial American rejection). Similarly, I don't think she realises when she's being cheesy. All that makes her very vulnerable to criticism, but it's also a HUGE part of her appeal imo & one of the reasons why we let so many of her cringeworthy lyrics slide. t's pretty ironic that's she was basically persecuted for being inauthentic when I legit believe she's one of the most authentic popstars out there, which is basically the reason why we even have a Lanalysis thread - and imo her authenticity has nothing to do with whether K existed or not, or whether she dated Gnecco or was just an obsessive fangirl, but the fact that she treats her music like her personal diary & talks about her darkest desires, dreams, fantasies without giving a single fuck if what she's writing about is cringey, ridiculous, disturbing, or whatever. And to me that trumps a technically better but emotionally sterile song anyday.

Idk, every time she was asked that she used to reply either 'no' or some variation of 'I'm in control, all those stories are fabricated' and here she just admitted it right away and it seemed genuine... You know what they say about the first step to recover from addiction, that it's admitting you have a problem? It looked like she finally admitted it...

I'm too much of a cynic to completely believe everything that was said tbh, but she looked great and did sound a lot more honest than, well, ever before. I thought the moment when she answers 'yes' without a second's hesitation to Oprah's question 'are you an addict?' was pretty telling. This series of interviews could really help her imo; I mean, she will now have to justify each of her actions in public so that will hopefully be an extra motivation to keep her act clean... and LMAO @ Europe being 'the playground of fun & pleasure'. I fucking wish Europe was even half of what America seems to think it is. also, #Cum2Switzerland Lindsay

I ask myself these same questions sometimes and could probably write a huge-ass text about it but I'm lazy so fuck that. I think it's possible to be objective while evaluating musical quality, at least to some extent; then again, stuff like 'meaningful lyricism' is so damn subjective & dependent on personal taste... Anyway, about Lana & in all honesty, I would never go as far as calling her a genius tbh. She has an interesting vision & imo her main talent is her ability to create a very vivid imagery / mood with her lyrics in most of her songs; I think the music videos are an extension of that, and even if she's not responsible for every single artistic decision, I do think the concept / general idea behind each video is all hers. That being said, I think she has a few limitations in terms of her songwriting abilities & is probably more of a writer than a musician (In a way). So I guess that's my attempt at unbiased & 'objective' criticism, but I don't think that's worth more than any other personal opinion tbh. Ultimately you like what you like, and that's it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDMwSsIgxaM

I also read this, and as far as I'm aware there's no Whitman poem called 'Farewell'. There is however one called 'Good-bye my fancy' which has the line 'farewell dear mate, dear love'; it's the last poem in Leaves of Grass and in it he basically says goodbye to his imagination or inspiration. Someone said to me that this poem is also known as 'Farewell'; no idea if that's true or not. But imo her 'farewell' definitely has a similar meaning -- closure of an era / project, saying goodbye to BTD/Paradise and its whole underlying concept.

Oh don't get me wrong, I enjoyed reading it, and some of the comments really were very interesting. And the guy did have some valid points, but at times it was difficult to take him seriously because of his fanboyish attitude... And I totally agree with you re: Lana saying/doing cringey stuff all the time.

Because I'm more of a fan of Lizzy / rawer-sounding Lana & disliked the overproduction in BTD & Paradise, and think some demos were actually superior to the 'finished' products (Diet Mtn Dew & Lolita come to mind, for instance). OTTR is one of my absolute fave Lana songs so I'm really looking forward to hear its rawer version.

A lot more similar to Work and WAYYY better than Bounce imo. Love it, really hope the albums follows this direction rather than the more generic dance pop that was Bounce (and given her recent comments, I think it will).

I second this.

"CYL first play is today at 6pm on @mistajam"

THIS.

Seriously, that was equal parts interesting & cringeworthy. Like, take it down a notch...

U have great taste @ Her music was the soundtrack to so many days & nights spent at the beach... so much nostalgia rn! Really love this collab of hers, it's just so chill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syOK6zmpOe0

@ Thanks! And I'll report back when I've listened to it.

Coincidentally (or not lol) I've always heard him described as "the Canadian Patrick Wolf", but I never listened to more than a couple of his songs... I loved this Strokes cover he did for Stereogum's 'Is This It' tribute; his, Real Estate's & Austra's were pretty much the only good covers in that compilation tbh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjXXfo0K01I Please recommend me an album or EP to start with?

I love him & want to marry him too but he would never marry me, I'm the wrong gender. My fave albums are Lycanthropy & Wind In The Wires (still haven't listened to his last 2 though). Lycanthropy in particular is just perfect; I adore Wolf Song, To The Lighthouse & The Childcatcher (this one is so disturbing!). This song though. This fucking song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cvj5bq4WHA

Tired of dealing with basic bitches & basic shit all the time, this track needs to be out asap. Mistajam will premiere it on BBC Radio 1xtra this Tuesday hopefully.

That's an interesting question & I'd love to read more replies tbh. I've only been to a concert alone once and it was hands down, by a loooong mile the best concert I've ever been to. Not only was it a show by my fave band, it was also completely WILD in a way that most definitely wouldn't have happened hadn't I been alone. So I strongly recommend doing it *at least* once preferably while you're single

@ Not even a Gaga fan, but Perez is scum of the earth, so... definitely team Gaga on this.

@ @@lola -- 9.5/10 Best New Exchange

They actually have spider epidemics over there, no made up terrifying animal beats that as far as I'm concerned.

Blue Jeans. It's sexy yet simple, and I really love the video's whole aesthetic which was imo perfectly represented in the single cover. National Anthem would be my (close) 2nd choice.