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  1. sodaserialkiller liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Being a cultist is the worse thing any fan can do for an artist, being an all-praising, never-critical worshipper, as if the artist were a god and above imperfection, mistake or error. I have seen this behavior in cults of R.E.M., Tori Amos, Hozier, Bob Dylan, 21 Pilots, Amy Winehouse, Jeff Buckley, Joni Mitchell, Kate Bush, Father John Misty and the Clash among others, and filmmakers like Wes Anderson and Woody Allen.
     
    Sometimes a great artist will release one bad album or film after another, and her or his adoring fans will remain silent at best or praise the bad work regardless, instead of saying, “Wow, your new album is really poor, as I see it, for the following reasons...”
     
    You don’t have to be mindlessly rude, but you should state your truth if you feel like doing so. I have recently done this on FB with Rayland Baxter, the Cactus Blossoms and Great Peacock, all of whom I follow and who released lousy records over the year or so.
     
    Certainly LDR has her cultists. You can be an LDR Stan without being a cultist, insisting that you yourself and everyone else love every LDR song, poem and photo.
     
    Maintaining some distance and objectivity is ALWAYS good. It helps you see clearly and without blind emotion.
  2. heroindealer liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    The new beach selfies give me more hope than anything else that we might be moving into the home stretch for the new album. They could even be, or pass for, liner note photos. They’re certainly much better than those ugly, distorted selfies she posted during the lead-up to LFL. The beach selfies show that a LDR selfie, with or without makeup, need not be grotesque.
  3. LanaFlowers liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I was lucky enough to be hanging out in the East Village in the years when he was just starting out and playing Sin-e and other small dive cafes. I wouldn’t say he was a difficult person, just an apparently average human being suddenly and quickly being swallowed by fame and celebrity and doing his best to cope with it.
     
    The East Village was and remains a very tough place, and I am not surprised to hear that the young Sis or LDR met with antagonism or hostility from Buckley and/or others. That is the norm there. Everyone tends to pose and be as hard, cynical and ‘over everything’ as possible. It’s not a very human place. It’s the birthplace of the Velvet Underground and CBGB, what can you expect?
  4. Vertimus liked a post in a topic by LanaFlowers in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I don't think she's ever looked grotesque, but there have been a few very unfortunate looks. I loved her most recent selfie, she looked beautiful & radiant. I don't think she was wearing makeup and it didn't look edited. Reminded me of how cute she used to look bare-faced years ago.
  5. honeycookie liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    The new beach selfies give me more hope than anything else that we might be moving into the home stretch for the new album. They could even be, or pass for, liner note photos. They’re certainly much better than those ugly, distorted selfies she posted during the lead-up to LFL. The beach selfies show that a LDR selfie, with or without makeup, need not be grotesque.
  6. WilshireBoulevard liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Speaking of Jeff Buckley, I would love, one day, for LDR to produce a song as perfect, as moving and as powerful, as ‘Lover, You Should Have Come Over.’ ‘Old Money’ comes close for me.
     
    I don’t Stan Buckley, but I am a great fan of his and also of his father, Tim, who was certainly a good example of an artist who was give complete artistic freedom and quickly threw his career away.
  7. bluefiona liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Being a cultist is the worse thing any fan can do for an artist, being an all-praising, never-critical worshipper, as if the artist were a god and above imperfection, mistake or error. I have seen this behavior in cults of R.E.M., Tori Amos, Hozier, Bob Dylan, 21 Pilots, Amy Winehouse, Jeff Buckley, Joni Mitchell, Kate Bush, Father John Misty and the Clash among others, and filmmakers like Wes Anderson and Woody Allen.
     
    Sometimes a great artist will release one bad album or film after another, and her or his adoring fans will remain silent at best or praise the bad work regardless, instead of saying, “Wow, your new album is really poor, as I see it, for the following reasons...”
     
    You don’t have to be mindlessly rude, but you should state your truth if you feel like doing so. I have recently done this on FB with Rayland Baxter, the Cactus Blossoms and Great Peacock, all of whom I follow and who released lousy records over the year or so.
     
    Certainly LDR has her cultists. You can be an LDR Stan without being a cultist, insisting that you yourself and everyone else love every LDR song, poem and photo.
     
    Maintaining some distance and objectivity is ALWAYS good. It helps you see clearly and without blind emotion.
  8. sirensXsilence liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Being a cultist is the worse thing any fan can do for an artist, being an all-praising, never-critical worshipper, as if the artist were a god and above imperfection, mistake or error. I have seen this behavior in cults of R.E.M., Tori Amos, Hozier, Bob Dylan, 21 Pilots, Amy Winehouse, Jeff Buckley, Joni Mitchell, Kate Bush, Father John Misty and the Clash among others, and filmmakers like Wes Anderson and Woody Allen.
     
    Sometimes a great artist will release one bad album or film after another, and her or his adoring fans will remain silent at best or praise the bad work regardless, instead of saying, “Wow, your new album is really poor, as I see it, for the following reasons...”
     
    You don’t have to be mindlessly rude, but you should state your truth if you feel like doing so. I have recently done this on FB with Rayland Baxter, the Cactus Blossoms and Great Peacock, all of whom I follow and who released lousy records over the year or so.
     
    Certainly LDR has her cultists. You can be an LDR Stan without being a cultist, insisting that you yourself and everyone else love every LDR song, poem and photo.
     
    Maintaining some distance and objectivity is ALWAYS good. It helps you see clearly and without blind emotion.
  9. Vertimus liked a post in a topic by UltraviolentJack in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Exactly. When an artist is doing bad, they need to hear it from the fans. We are her consumers, and she presents us products. If we don't like them, whether that be music, albums, videos, merch, she should heavily take that into consideration knowing she's made millions off of us the past several years. 
  10. American Whore liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Being a cultist is the worse thing any fan can do for an artist, being an all-praising, never-critical worshipper, as if the artist were a god and above imperfection, mistake or error. I have seen this behavior in cults of R.E.M., Tori Amos, Hozier, Bob Dylan, 21 Pilots, Amy Winehouse, Jeff Buckley, Joni Mitchell, Kate Bush, Father John Misty and the Clash among others, and filmmakers like Wes Anderson and Woody Allen.
     
    Sometimes a great artist will release one bad album or film after another, and her or his adoring fans will remain silent at best or praise the bad work regardless, instead of saying, “Wow, your new album is really poor, as I see it, for the following reasons...”
     
    You don’t have to be mindlessly rude, but you should state your truth if you feel like doing so. I have recently done this on FB with Rayland Baxter, the Cactus Blossoms and Great Peacock, all of whom I follow and who released lousy records over the year or so.
     
    Certainly LDR has her cultists. You can be an LDR Stan without being a cultist, insisting that you yourself and everyone else love every LDR song, poem and photo.
     
    Maintaining some distance and objectivity is ALWAYS good. It helps you see clearly and without blind emotion.
  11. American Whore liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    The new beach selfies give me more hope than anything else that we might be moving into the home stretch for the new album. They could even be, or pass for, liner note photos. They’re certainly much better than those ugly, distorted selfies she posted during the lead-up to LFL. The beach selfies show that a LDR selfie, with or without makeup, need not be grotesque.
  12. Vertimus liked a post in a topic by GeminiLanaFan in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    There sure is a fun vibe coming from her recent posts. Last time I felt that fun vibe from her was before releasing VB and MAC.
    Maybe something is coming in June? (it's a fucking reach, I know)
  13. ArtDecoDelRey liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    The new beach selfies give me more hope than anything else that we might be moving into the home stretch for the new album. They could even be, or pass for, liner note photos. They’re certainly much better than those ugly, distorted selfies she posted during the lead-up to LFL. The beach selfies show that a LDR selfie, with or without makeup, need not be grotesque.
  14. ArtDecoDelRey liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    There was never ANY official confirmation from Interscope, and official confirmation from them is all that matters. Everything else is speculation, hearsay, or gossip, or more very likely unreliable information from her and her team.
  15. American Bottom liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    There was never ANY official confirmation from Interscope, and official confirmation from them is all that matters. Everything else is speculation, hearsay, or gossip, or more very likely unreliable information from her and her team.
  16. kitschesque liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    There was never ANY official confirmation from Interscope, and official confirmation from them is all that matters. Everything else is speculation, hearsay, or gossip, or more very likely unreliable information from her and her team.
  17. 13beachess liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Sometimes ‘Indie’ is erroneously seen as a musical genre like ‘Alternative,’ rather than meaning ‘on an independent label.’
     
    I agree LDR is not Indie.
  18. Flowerbomb liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    There was never ANY official confirmation from Interscope, and official confirmation from them is all that matters. Everything else is speculation, hearsay, or gossip, or more very likely unreliable information from her and her team.
  19. LanaFlowers liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    And record companies insisting on changes, or the addition or deletion of songs, or which single is released, or what the cover art looks like, that’s been a reality since the dawn of recorded music. It may not be going on now with NFR, but it’s definitely a reality many musicians have faced.
  20. ivy liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    And record companies insisting on changes, or the addition or deletion of songs, or which single is released, or what the cover art looks like, that’s been a reality since the dawn of recorded music. It may not be going on now with NFR, but it’s definitely a reality many musicians have faced.
  21. necessary sacrifice liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    And record companies insisting on changes, or the addition or deletion of songs, or which single is released, or what the cover art looks like, that’s been a reality since the dawn of recorded music. It may not be going on now with NFR, but it’s definitely a reality many musicians have faced.
  22. ivy liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Maybe LDR doesn’t want to get the reputation of being ‘difficult’ within the industry, if she’s thinking of changing labels, as Tori Amos came to be known after her endless battles with various labels and many public statements about those battles.
  23. LanaFlowers liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    The piece in the video is Clair de Lune by Claude Debussy. 
  24. Vertimus liked a post in a topic by ChaoticLipster in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    It’s because she started off as indie. I still see her that way in some regards
  25. sirensXsilence liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Sometimes ‘Indie’ is erroneously seen as a musical genre like ‘Alternative,’ rather than meaning ‘on an independent label.’
     
    I agree LDR is not Indie.
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