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Interesting . . . I wonder if she is going to try to re-work the entire concept and make it into a polished, full-length album. So she can win a Grammy. 

I think AJayll's reaction reflects us all . . .
 

I think AJayll's reaction reflects us all . . .
 

Wasn't 'Love the life you live / live the life you love' Valerie's signature?
 
Lana is @Valerie.
 

I think AJayll's reaction reflects us all . . .
 

Do we have (and if we don't can someone PLEASE make one??) a variation of Math Lady, but with Lana in the picture? 
 

Yes I'm with you . . . it also comes across as externalising and playing a bit of a victim. If we've interpreted it right, she's essentially saying "Oh haha usually everyone HATES my work which is very sophisticated, so it's so unexpected and random that people now like it!" 
 

Thanks.
 
I agree with pretty much everything you said.
 
To me, it sounds like she's admitting that she made a "safe" album but it seems like a strange admission so I doubted my interpretation.
 
I hope I'm wrong because I really don't want her to think that making another safe album is a good idea. DON'T DO IT, LANZ.

After the anger at what happened at the Grammy yesterday... That's the feeling!
 
If not even Lana seems to take herself seriously, why would other people consider her?
 
Some people said that the culprit for Lana losing the awards is Interscope.
But in place of Interscope, you would bet your chips on a lazy artist, who loves her art, but doesn’t endeavor to promote it, who doesn’t perform live, except on tour (and even then, it seems she does it only out of obligation) and disappears for days while she should be committed to her work?
 
She has a loyal fanbase, but she doesn't have a lot of visibility among the general public... Some things don't sustain alone.
 
I don't know if she "doesn't really care" or self-sabotages (which is sad).
But part of the bad things that happen in her career end up being the fault of her "choices"... Unfortunately!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ossKN_SXCU

ok but does anyone actually like the demo version a bit more tho too? 

I will admit, I would like to be in a fandom where an artist wins for once. However, I don't live my life liking things based on what awards they get, so I'm not too fussed! It would have been a deserving win, but on reflection here are some factors I think of why NFR didn't:
Little to no campaigning from Lana to actually win the award. No interviews, long stretches on social media with no content related to the album, no TV performances or high profile talk shows to build and maintain hype. Is this her management or her? I'm inclined to think her. Shambolic roll-out of the album, including confusion over the singles. Venice Bitch and MAC weren't even confirmed inclusions until the track list came out, and at the time were called something dumb like 'fan singles'? The slow roll out of some of her strongest and well-received pieces (Venice Bitch, MAC and even Hope) meant they almost entirely dropped out of public view, and lead to an ineligibility of those tracks leads to none of them being able to nominated for Song of the Year. Norman Fucking Rockwell simply didn't have the same appeal. Also releasing the  Norman Fucking Rockwell was never, ever, EVER going to win song of the year. It didn't even have a film clip until very late last year. It wasn't sent to radio stations, and wasn't radio friendly.  She never sung her singles at her concerts. She balks at performing new material, and has fucked up with shaky performances live more than once. She didn't even perform at the awards. This is basically cementing the perception that she is still living in 'Born to Die' territory. Again, this is self-sabotage.  The title of the album, and the singles ('Venice Bitch', 'Norman FUCKING!! Rockwell', 'Fuck It I Love You') put prudes off, affected YouTube algorithms and search results on Google, and would have diluted aggregated results for the album due to the different titles (Norman Fucking Rockwell OR NFR! or Norman F**king Rockwell OR Norman Rockwell OR whatever else). The album didn't have the same appeal as things that regularly popped up like Bad Guy. The sacrifice of this title didn't really resonate with a lot of people and an artistic choice that probably put people off. The awards are rigged (discussed as recently as this week from the President of the Grammys), and most likely a committee was wanting to pick something popular to stay 'in touch' with current trends. It's still not 'cool' to like Lana del Rey.  Obviously she would be proud of the music, but apparently she can't even produce nice artwork for her singles, or format the titles of her tracks correctly. That really projects a feeling like she couldn't care less. If she doesn't care, why bother giving it to her?  Maybe controversially, it's simply not as good as her previous albums (?) and didn't have as many hits. While I wish she'd won, I think if she DID win, it would undeservingly absolve a lot of these issues that we were unhappy with during the roll-out of the album. If she is truly driven, and keen on winning the Grammy, then for the next album hopefully she will trust her managers a touch more, and we will see a refreshed approach, with a more considered approach to promotion and sensible choices. But maybe she actually doesn't care! (we know she does but eh). 

I think she is saying the reception of the record (among fans, critics, GP?) was so different to what she'd had with her previous work; it was more like what she perceives her peers (Ariana, Taylor etc) receive when they release an album. She might be referring to the critical fanfare and unanimous praise. 
 
So she thinks she is the only one that never gets that praise, then basically alludes to that idea that the reasons why it was received so openly as opposed to her previous (just as good works) will eventually reveal themselves. Then guesses it was because she made very accessible music this time, rather than previous albums.
 
Maybe it's her clumsy way of acknowledging she sold-out/didn't work too hard on this album and got a lot of praise but isn't really sure why. 

Right? Another thing to add to her unreleased catalogue: 2020 Grammys look.
 
She might serve it at the Brit awards
 
After all, I doubt she can be bothered going to the mall again between now and then
 

I think she is saying the reception of the record (among fans, critics, GP?) was so different to what she'd had with her previous work; it was more like what she perceives her peers (Ariana, Taylor etc) receive when they release an album. She might be referring to the critical fanfare and unanimous praise. 
 
So she thinks she is the only one that never gets that praise, then basically alludes to that idea that the reasons why it was received so openly as opposed to her previous (just as good works) will eventually reveal themselves. Then guesses it was because she made very accessible music this time, rather than previous albums.
 
Maybe it's her clumsy way of acknowledging she sold-out/didn't work too hard on this album and got a lot of praise but isn't really sure why. 

YES. She totally peaked with this look. 
 
I wonder what her original look was, since she said she impulsively changed it.

YES. She totally peaked with this look. 
 
I wonder what her original look was, since she said she impulsively changed it.

Is it though?

Let's be honest this was wayyyy better than the actual Grammys look don't @ me
 
The good sis got the days/events mixed up

people already saying white hot forever is giving them honeymoon vibes LMFAO calm down..

She shoulda brought the tree she fell out of that gave her cracked ribs and a breathy voice too, and herself as a baby because she was singing full songs before she could talk

what quote 

Interesting . . . I wonder if she is going to try to re-work the entire concept and make it into a polished, full-length album. So she can win a Grammy. 

Wasn't 'Love the life you live / live the life you love' Valerie's signature?
 
Lana is @Valerie.
 

I think AJayll's reaction reflects us all . . .
 

Wasn't 'Love the life you live / live the life you love' Valerie's signature?
 
Lana is @Valerie.