LiamViljoen

Confirmed tracks:
West Coast
Cruel World
 
Possible tracks:
Money, Power and Glory
Trans-AM (remember that?... So long ago!)

"Running from the cops in our black bikini tops screaming 'Get us while we're hot! Get us while we're hot! (Come on take a shower!)"

I mean, in my opinion, Lana's getting better with each new record. I'm not saying any song on UV is as good as Video Games (cause in my opinion she won't EVER have a song as brilliant as that... and doesn't need to) but can anyone here honestly say they didn't hate or dislike ANY of the songs on BTD/PARADISE? I hate Dark Paradise (luv the demo tho) and I know people here dislike DMD, MDM, or Carmen. And if you seriously love each track on BTD then you're most likely one of those PARADISE haters. My point is you're probably looking back a little too fondly on the BTD era. If you really analyse it I promise a lot of you will realise you like UV just as much if not more.
 
As for her commercial success, well UV did pretty fantastic for such an alternative style record. I can't really tell wether that's just because people love the album itself or it's just down to idiots looking for another summertime sadness remix but I guess we'll see whenever she chooses to release her next album. I honestly don't care as long as I like it and she's happy with it.

Kathi said: 
"I WONDER WHO SHE HAD TO SUCK OFF TO GET AN ALBUM SINCE SHE CAN'T SING"
 
Hold up, bitch was in her 50's?
 
Lana's reply was classic, but it does sort of take the honesty out of her reply in that
U tube vid somewhere where she says she wouldn't say anything to the haters...
 
...I guess she changed her mind.

Blue jeans
 
National Anthem :defeated:
 
Summertime Sadness
 
Born To Die :defeated:
 
Video Games :defeated:
 
Off To The Races

Kim should still take responsibility for the early draft of the quote. It got online, Lana Del Rey definetly has seen it or heard about it by this point, Kim needs to be an adult and apologise.
 
At least in the modified paragraph we can take her arguments seriously. I still disagree though. What troubles me is that Kim perpetuates the mentality that everything Del Rey says and does is an act, belittling her pain and experiences. Of course there's no denying that she incorporates her fantasies into her writing, but it's dangerous to assume that Lana keeps this "persona" on 24/7 and ignore her genuine moments of hardship as if she's putting it on in keeping with her image. I've seen poolside, she's not that great an actress.
Kim also tries to convince us Lana doesn't understand feminism. Lana never said she wasn't a feminist, the most she said was that she wasn't interested in discussing the subject and she even described her own feminist ideals. But these days that's all it takes to anger the public, who exaggerate her words to make her seem like some pathetic idiot who doesn't care about her own rights, which was the exact opposite of what Lana said.
 
I'm not saying Lana Del Rey is suicidal, but she's clearly unhappy, or at least was at the time of the Guardian interview. Can you imagine how frustrating it must be for people to constantly misconstrue everything you say or do as a planned publicity stunt to fit your gimick? For moments of genuine passion or desperation to be scrutinised so harshly and calculatingly by the media? Kim's been in the limelight for a long time, she should be more mature and understanding than that. She should be supporting Lana, not trying to depict Lana as a bad feminist. Kim may have removed the harshest bite from her words, but she's still slut shaming Lana for the lifestyle she depicts in her art, most importantly the ride video, which makes no sense as men have lived this way for decades. Maybe it's not the right lifestyle for for some women but if others choose to live that way then why would she care? Lana Del Rey proves that women can be romantic without being airheads who desperately depend on a man. She gives a voice to important feminist issues that aren't being discussed by anyone else (domestic abuse, the media's discrimination against women) and that's exactly the point. There are more important issues in feminism than Lana Del Rey. It's insulting, it's inexcusable, and above all it's upsetting that today trashing women who make different lifestyle choices is considered feminism.

EXACTLY.
 
And yet it seems no one (other than Lana's admirably aggressive twitter legion) has really called Kim out for this yet. Advising another woman that you've never met to kill themselves, especially in such a vitriolic and heartless fashion, is a much worse immpression to be putting out to our youth than a lonely woman admitting her own depression. The fact that Lana has made her anxieties clear to the world actually makes what Kim said even more, well, downright evil.
 
And yet if Lana were to respond in even the most reserved of manners, she'd be the one accused of trying to ignite a spat.
Let's hope she has enough common sense to realise that this woman is way out of place, it seriously wouldn't be good for her mental state if she took any of what was said to heart. Which is very likely considering who said it.

Note how Kim retweets a few pissed off Lana fans who defend their fave, as if to say "look how childish and stupid they are!" When she legitimately asked a girl to kill herself and published it in a book. Such a class act.
The bitch even retweeted someone saying "Kim Gordon has had a bigger impact in music than Lana Del Rey ever will"
Arrogant cunt. And we're supposed to sit quietly and allow her to trash her fellow woman because she was a big deal in the 90s?

Waiting for Azealia Banks to say something on this. I bet Lana herself would have a lot to say but she NEVER goes public about this stuff.
 
The saddest thing about this is if this happened to someone like Lorde or Taylor Swift everyone one would immediately come to their defence, fan or not, the things Kim Gordon said are that harsh, but Lana is always left to fend for herself. She's like the nerdy kid in high school, everyone sees this stuff happen to her but they just watch. No one thinks to throw her any fucking support.
 
Also I must be forgetting the song where Lana says no to voting or earning equal pay.
Let's just list all the sexism displayed in this paragraph:
1 Slut-Shaming Lana for her taste in men and lovemaking.
2 Criticising Lana's apt description of a true feminist because Lana said it.
3 Insinuating that Lana shouldn't sing as an individual who has chosen a different lifestyle to her, but instead sing about very certain topics. She's basically saying that Lana Del Rey's experiences are less valuable because she's a female, she should be singing about how independent she is and act like everyone wants her too because anything less is just unheard of in society (Jim Morrison, Kanye West, Eminem, pretty much all male rappers)
4 Advising Lana to kill herself. This isn't sexist so much as simply inhumane and reprehensibly irresponsible.
 
Does Kim think she's gonna get away with all this?

I understand that Kim Gordon had her day in the sun (but yeah I really didn't know her until this thread was created) but that doesn't change the fact that she's a has-been trying to boost book sales by name dropping Lana.
 
Also that "gang rape" comment just gets my blood boiling. I've only known of her for an hour and I already hate her. What a sly bitch.

...What is her point tho? Is she trying to infer that Lana's belief that women should be allowed to do whatever they want (i.e anything men have been legally permitted to do for many centuries more) is not a part of feminist values?
I hate how people seem to translate Lana's statements of disinterest with feminism as an utter aversion to the feminist movement. She obviously should have answered with a polite nod like all pretty little female celebrities have to, but fuck all she said was that when people bring feminism up in conversation she doesn't care, she's more interested in space travel. SURE, IT'S KIND OF A DUMB ANSWER BUT LANA SAID HERSELF THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY ON THE MATTER. What's really sexist about all this is that the media forces Lana to speak on behalf of her gender and scrutinise her as a woman, and fuck to anyone that took this statement as a denouncement of feminism she gave her own, entirely accurate, description of a feminist, Lana clearly DOES understand what a feminist is because I'm pretty sure all women agree that feminism is about equalising rights between both sexes, i.e a woman who feels free to do whatever she wants.
Anyway, what the fuck does this have to do with Lana's "glamourisation" of death?
 
Let's just get this clear, the Lana that sings about her pain and alludes to Marilyn and Kurt Cobain in her music is NOT the same Lana that told the guardian she wished she was dead.
 
When Lana sings about death in her songs, we know it's her being overdramatic, it doesn't count as glamourisation because these songs aren't glamorous, they're fucking sad. Meanwhile, when Lana's on interview, after having just released her latest album, and leaving her boyfriend, and inbetween tours and shows on a tight schedule, you'd expect her not to feel so great. Cut the girl some mother fucking slack. And this senile old woman thinks she can get away with such blatant hypocrisy? She throws shade at Lana for "glamourising death" then advises Lana to kill herself? What an insightful, witty, observent GO FUCK YOURSELF.
 
Also based on how Lana responded to being put on the worst dressed list imagine how she'd react if she met this washed up cunt
 
Not gonna pretend I actually know who this bitch is tho.
Oh boy, she was big two decades ago? Well jeez do I feel left out, nah but for real let this dry-cunted asshole moan while she still has her fucking teeth

Does anyone know if she's done anymore interviews lately or if she's doing some soon? I feel like her giving little hints about the style and production of the album in interviews will be all we get 'until possibly spring next year.
 
I wonder if she's discarded the 'music to watch boys to' title ... I just can't see an orchestral grunge album fitting that description.

Money And Power And Glory

They mean that you can't see when an instagram account was created, ever. This doesn't detract from the plausability of the account as a outlet of future news and promo for the record at all. There have been no posts as of yet, but I doubt Lana would just arbitrarily create an account called HONEYMOON to troll her fans, it's even less likely that she saw that someone else made an account named after her upcoming record and she found it on instagram then chose to follow it.

Wasn't Lou Reed meant to feature on Brooklyn Baby? I just feel like Lana's more specific about collaborating with artists (this is her show) but if she finds the right moment and the right artist then I'm sure she'd go for it.

Do you guys really think there'll be a title track? Honeymoon to me just sounds like a setting for the mood of the album. Then again I thought the same thing when Lana announced UV
 
I like the title tracks from BTD and UV but to me having a title track in each album just seems a bit boring. It just takes away the mystique of the title, at first you wonder why the record is called Honeymoon, is there some kind of running story regarding a relationship? Maybe the whole album will be Lana envisioning the marriage she and Barrie never had? But if there's just a song on the record called Honeymoon, then you almost feel like that's the only reason behind the record's title. It's like with Paradise, since there's no song on the record called paradise, the title feels more like a summary of the album in general (and that record is simply sublime so it's a fitting name)
 
I'm still not half sure what I'm saying but that's always how I've felt about title tracks, in case anyone cares.

"THE LIZZY GRANT LP" by Lana Del Rey

Meanwhile the 'alternative' fans be like:
 
After Lana has released her 37 minute psychedelic grunge epic "I Actually didn't fuck my way up to the top (feat. Courtney Love)" accompanied by a music video of herself painting her toenails grey and slitting her wrists on the thorns of white roses (filmed on an iphone, ffs) the indie queen/reincarnation of Kurt Cobain will cancel her summer tour to find a reason to break up with latest boyfriend Francesco Carrozzini. Then on May 1st Lana will release her latest album HONEYMOON to critical acclaim and continue not to release singles for the next year before staging her own drive-by shooting, framing Lorde then returning from the dead one week later and suprise releasing her revolutionary future-jazz album "suicide note" (dedicated to the late Barrie James O'neill) before buying herself out of her contract with interscope to join Azealia Banks' newly formed independent label "F U IGGY RECORDS" and Lana shall be initiated into the league of icons by Beyoncé, wearing the skin of Stefani Germanotta as she bathes in Chanel No 5 and sacrifices a child to the spirits of Hollywood.
 
Hey, at least she never has another top 40 single

Oh Idk perhaps Honeymoon? Big Eyes? Riverside? Wait For Life?
I mean I'm disappointed too but you can't say she's lying on her ass... Where have you been?

When I was sixteen I was one of those guys that was close friends with a lot of girls, so I used to call them "bitch" or "slut" jokingly, but that was only really because that was how those girls addressed each other within that circle, and don't worry I made sure they took no issue with my use of the word also they were all total bitches anyway so how else would I address them?
 
I have straight male friends that call me a fag, and I honestly get more annoyed by people that constantly come to my aid whenever someone takes issue with my sexuality. I don't know, Azealia's definetly right, in this case, about that double standard. But I use the word bitch all the time with my friends, no one's ever taken offense. I guess it's just a lot different for a black female rapper communicating with brain dead spoilt racists over twitter.
 
Also, can anyone explain to me what that fucking cupcake joke means? I've seen it in a few threads before and I honestly don't get it.

tbh I woudn't be suprised if they were reading this thread right now

Wow... That's.... Umm.... Wow....

Well aka is sort of a mix of sugary summer pop and jazz (as the phrase 'surf noir' suggests) and that's really what I predict this record will sound like- Lana going back to her roots.
 
Then again when I first heard the title "Ultraviolence" I was sure Lana was giving us some "Beyoncé" esque dark, ethereal beats with lavish production. She went the other way and still managed to exceed my expectations in terms of quality so I'm past the point of questioning Lana's methods. This bitch can do no wrong.