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regardless of how you feel about nfr, she sure does cause a lot of conversation and we can't seem to stop bringing her up in this thread  

I'm sorry, but how can you say that when we literally only heard two songs off the album. One of which is definitely interesting sonically, but the other feels like something that was meant for the last album??

You're right and you should say it
sometimes it takes broken people to show bravery

Sometimes you just gotta appreciate people for being their bold, fearless self. 

LFL remains superior, I’m sincerely sorry to NFR

If y'all wanna praise NFR on y'all knees, go to the post-release thread. This is the Chemtrails discussion thread

She didn't define NFR! as "just cool" and nothing more; she said it is "just so cool there's nothing not to like about it", and she talked grandiosely of it multiple times. She knows she did that. as for Chemtrails, I think her uncomfort with it is that she revisited a lot of memories she was kind of ignoring while working on it, so it's not an easy listen for her.

I kinda wanted to see how the record would be if Woman was the ending track. it'd have some kind of suspense to it but. seeing as to how it's before Wild At Heart, it gives me newfound freedom vibes n i wonder if it'll start w a built up opening more slowly paced, or just continue from the abruptness. 

also, I still really like the idea of the snippet we got as TJF's /WHF's outro. it'd make it a lot more interesting imo 

maybe she knows what's up

I don't necessarily think the two ideas are mutually exclusive
 
While I can't understand the inner workings of her mind, but I think she may feel a strong connection to Jack in creative spirit, but doesn't have that sense of "this record is perfect, let's put it out" that she had with Rick

does anyone find it weird she acts like jack is such a genius, her creative soulmate - but all the work she’s made with him she seems so unsatisfied with like she referred to NFR as just “cool” and it’s a fight to listen to COCC?

So considering Mojo’s 100 NFR score and Chemtrails 80 score I’m hoping this album falls in around an 83-84. I don’t expect the insane praise NFR got, though I do think I’ll personally enjoy this album more than that. I’m just hoping, on an artistry level, that’s she’s gained enough traction from the last record to maintain great scores. A handful of critics around NFR claimed that her previous records were underrated and if it’s on the same level as those I’m hoping they at least score it like they should have scored her earlier stuff. 

Not in the slightest. 

I don't think that was subconscious at all really. I view 'NFR!' as a perfect PR album tbh. 

nfr was critically acclaimed because it was safe, plain & simple, that doesn't mean that it was a bad album, or a boring album, but it didn't feel as in-depth and nuanced as her previous work, it's obvious that she's maturing as an artist, which is great, but nfr didn't quite have the polarizing, in-depth feel that, let's say, honeymoon has, i'm feeling confident that cotcc will be more of an honest and impactful body of work like honeymoon, especially since she's expressed that she doesn't want to limit herself and her artistry

She subconsciously catered to the critics and what the world wanted from Lana Del Rey. A woman who isn't controversial. A woman who "stays in her lane." Her best albums (Honeymoon, UV, and likely Chemtrails) have a unique, and often polarizing identity that isn't made for everyone. NFR! doesn't have an identity, as much as I love it. She even notices it herself: "there's nothing NOT to like about Norman."

don’t be afraid of a...ntonoff? 

Honestly I LOVE Norman but I don't get it... the acclaim it got is a bit too much. Yes, it's a very good album, but a perfect ten? Better than UV and Honeymoon? Something weird happened there, I don't know... this made me actually more excited about COCC, if critics found flaws then it's got to be better. 

It's certainly looking to be a beautiful and cohesive record like them 

Slightly controversial enough to piss people off but still has that CLASSIQUE and ICONIQUE Lana flair
 
oh wow...oh wow...

tulsa jesus freak: don’t be afraid of allah 

THE UV/HM/CHEMTRAILS TRIFECTA
 
I KNEW IT 
 

i want to listen to the snippet and try to figure out what she's actually saying but it was taken off of youtube  

omg WHAT
 
Listening again it sorta sounds like she says don’t be afraid of “ala”
 
She says allah Lana Muslim confirmed