lizzyology

I have all of her GO! Fordham pictures dated as well 😭 - I personally think all attempts should be made to take them down, as Lana implied that with her comment under @honeydelgrant ‘s post, but what can we do 💀

this is really cool! thanks for sharing this!
it looks great, here’s some more info you can add: 
 
she uploaded the mermaid motel music video to a website titled elbo.ws on july 10th, 2008
she uploaded the yayo video to youtube on july 5th, 2008
she uploaded “gramma: blue ribbon sparkler” to youtube on october 21st, 2008
she uploaded the queen of the gas station music video to youtube on may 5th, 2009
 
more upload dates
 
here’s an imgur album made by the legendary @evilentity filled with a bunch of old myspace screenshots, this will be helpful for figuring out when certain songs have have first appeared https://imgur.io/a/xAKeg
 
here’s all of the dates of her appearances at dnjournal/traffic events
 
 
specific dates for some indian reservation photos
 
https://lanadelrey.fandom.com/wiki/2006/June
 
looking through those earlier dates of that section of the wiki will be helpful since i did update a lot of them a while ago
 
for recording dates, check out the latest pages as well
 
 
hoped this helped!  
 
ALSO!
 
check this out
 
 

I shared this kind of a long time ago, but it seems like there's been a resurgence in Lana/Lizzy sleuthing as of late:
 
Lizzy Grant - Timeline
 
This is a timeline I cooked up several years ago, covering the period from the beginning of LDR's professional career (currently Nov. '03, ostensibly her first professional modeling shots), to the official release of AKA, cementing the Lana Del Ray moniker and ending the Lizzy Grant era proper. It's supposed to be as comprehensive as possible, even including tweets/social media posts/etc., but it's been quite a bit since I really combed through the info and checked to see what I'm missing. Currently, events with specific dates have been prioritized, but I'd love some thoughts on whether this should also include more approximate/unknown dates and events. @lizzyology @honeybadger @Surf Noir -- tagging some Lizzy experts off the top of my head  please feel free to look through and contribute if you see anything missing/incorrect/etc.! This is a pretty old project, so I'm very open to any help and constructive criticism you've got 
 

Looks completely fake to me. It doesn't have a single new or even rare photo uploaded, and this one's photoshopped: 
 

Kill Kill EP interview was likely taken on December 3rd, 2008 and possibly, if not likely, filmed by Mike Mizrahi 
 
Also adding a few images for her 2009 Blurt Mag. interview below from an eBay listing: 
 

I wasn't here long enough to experience when the Facebook account linked below was active (I'm sure many of you were around, however). It seems like an account started in 2012-2015 on Facebook and was later abandoned... looks like a legit account from Lana. 
 
Not sure if this one is already known, but I'm leaving the link here for others just incase - feels like its been forgotten. 
 
https://www.facebook.com/LizWGrant
 
 

Kill Kill EP interview was likely taken on December 3rd, 2008 and possibly, if not likely, filmed by Mike Mizrahi 
 
Also adding a few images for her 2009 Blurt Mag. interview below from an eBay listing: 
 

An update, I am 100% sure she has my DM in her primary messages. Just asked again after 5 months and am scared to death. Let’s see if I get torn apart 😭. 

I wasn't here long enough to experience when the Facebook account linked below was active (I'm sure many of you were around, however). It seems like an account started in 2012-2015 on Facebook and was later abandoned... looks like a legit account from Lana. 
 
Not sure if this one is already known, but I'm leaving the link here for others just incase - feels like its been forgotten. 
 
https://www.facebook.com/LizWGrant
 
 

Lisandro just woke me up for this lol - Her old Fordham teacher, Mark Naison, just posted this an hour ago
 
"New" 2000s Lana performance (Brooklyn African American History Project) vids lurking somewhere; it would be interesting to see if they pop up sometime this year... wouldn't want to bug those two, but I think its definitely something to keep an eye out for in the future 

I wasn't here long enough to experience when the Facebook account linked below was active (I'm sure many of you were around, however). It seems like an account started in 2012-2015 on Facebook and was later abandoned... looks like a legit account from Lana. 
 
Not sure if this one is already known, but I'm leaving the link here for others just incase - feels like its been forgotten. 
 
https://www.facebook.com/LizWGrant
 
 

Lisandro just woke me up for this lol - Her old Fordham teacher, Mark Naison, just posted this an hour ago
 
"New" 2000s Lana performance (Brooklyn African American History Project) vids lurking somewhere; it would be interesting to see if they pop up sometime this year... wouldn't want to bug those two, but I think its definitely something to keep an eye out for in the future 

Kill Kill EP interview was likely taken on December 3rd, 2008 and possibly, if not likely, filmed by Mike Mizrahi 
 
Also adding a few images for her 2009 Blurt Mag. interview below from an eBay listing: 
 

Kill Kill EP interview was likely taken on December 3rd, 2008 and possibly, if not likely, filmed by Mike Mizrahi 
 
Also adding a few images for her 2009 Blurt Mag. interview below from an eBay listing: 
 

Pre-2008
September 22, 2006. WLSC Finalist Interview. LINK (Video)
 
 
2008
Unknown (Pre-October 21st), 2008. "Lizzy Grant". Brea Tremblay, Index Magazine. LINK
 
November 7, 2008. "Lake Placid native Lizzy Grant is making a name for herself in NYC" / "What you see vs. what you get". Andy Bates, Lake Placid News / Adirondack Daily Enterprise. LINK
 
November 23, 2008. Interview with Brea Tremblay. LINK (Video)
 
December 3, 2008. Kill Kill EP Interview with Michael Mizrahi (speculation). LINK (Video)
 
 
2009
February 9, 2009. "Lizzy Grant, on songwriting, Surf Noir and magic". Michael Mizrahi, Knocks from the Underground. LINK
 
February 20, 2009. "Singer/Songwriter Lizzy Grant on Cheap Thrills, Elvis, The Flamingos, Trailer Parks, and Coney Island". Felicia C. Sullivan, Huffington Post. From February 5, 2009. LINK
 
February 26, 2009. "Style Questionnaire: Lizzy Grant". Deirdre Sullivan (speculation), ideeli. LINK
 
March 25, 2009. "Lake Placid's Grant knocking out first full-length album" / "Local girl cuts first album". Jon Hochschartner, Press-Republican. (Link not available)
 
April 20, 2009. Sarah Grant, Blurt Magazine.
 
 August 26, 2009. Keds Collective. LINK
 
 
2010
January 28, 2010. "Lizzy Grant aka. Lana Del Ray releases album". Jessica Collier, Adirondack Daily Enterprise. LINK
 
June 15, 2010. "Lana Del Rey: On Her Past, Present & Future…" Steve Bateman, REPEAT Fanzine. LINK
 
Unknown Date (~2010). Daft Dog Productions, London. LINK (Video)
 

calling my lizzy grant historians for help in case i'm missing anything (i definitely am but my head hurts) 

I will say, the only reasons why those 2 remixes of Hundred Dollar Bill and Diet Mtn Dew (I believe these are the only remixes with Kalae) didn’t release is because of what happened at Lana’s showcase at the Highline Ballroom. 

I was told so many people came up to see Lana, only to find out she was essentially “bad at singing live” & many turned their interest over to Kalae after the show - they never spoke to each other again. 

If those 2 remixes were to come out, I’m not so sure what Kalae would think about them - I mean, it would feel pretty shitty to be blamed for someone’s performance-gone-bad but… 💀

I will say, the only reasons why those 2 remixes of Hundred Dollar Bill and Diet Mtn Dew (I believe these are the only remixes with Kalae) didn’t release is because of what happened at Lana’s showcase at the Highline Ballroom. 

I was told so many people came up to see Lana, only to find out she was essentially “bad at singing live” & many turned their interest over to Kalae after the show - they never spoke to each other again. 

If those 2 remixes were to come out, I’m not so sure what Kalae would think about them - I mean, it would feel pretty shitty to be blamed for someone’s performance-gone-bad but… 💀

Kalae didn’t save anything from her time with Lana (can you guess why lol), but I wouldn’t expect anything immediately from PS (also, @/Reputation was the one who sent her the message - I just gave him my question to ask her as PS isn’t very friendly towards Lana fans)

Lisandro just woke me up for this lol - Her old Fordham teacher, Mark Naison, just posted this an hour ago
 
"New" 2000s Lana performance (Brooklyn African American History Project) vids lurking somewhere; it would be interesting to see if they pop up sometime this year... wouldn't want to bug those two, but I think its definitely something to keep an eye out for in the future 

I wasn't here long enough to experience when the Facebook account linked below was active (I'm sure many of you were around, however). It seems like an account started in 2012-2015 on Facebook and was later abandoned... looks like a legit account from Lana. 
 
Not sure if this one is already known, but I'm leaving the link here for others just incase - feels like its been forgotten. 
 
https://www.facebook.com/LizWGrant
 
 

I was told to post this on Lana Thoughts and felt this was the most appropriate thread. I will edit later and post links/pictures. This is everything till now that we know about Princess Superstar's involvement in Lana's career. 
 
Princess Superstar is another artist who once worked with Ben Mawson, Lana’s manager. She worked with Lana ~2008-2010, but the timeline is tentative, as you’ll see.
 
Princess Superstar said in a 2013 interview with Lana Del Rey Now tumblr that when she met Lana she was already using the Lana Del Rey moniker. This is during 2009. However, in other instances where she has referenced Lana, she has used the name Lizzy Grant or Lizzie Grant. Go figure. 
 
In 2021, Princess posted mp3 files of unreleased Lana Del Rey songs that she produced on her Patreon. She wrote this about Catch & Release,  “Unreleased Lana Del Rey [sic] I produced…Great story- in 2009 my husband told me he found this "cool singer" Lizzie Grant and she was a big fan of mine. I said I didn't have a lot of time (LOL!) and ok let's see what she's about…two years later Lana Del Rey was born.” 
 
Princess Superstar wrote this about Maha Maha. “Exclusive for you guys! When Lana was merely Lizzy Grant with a failed record, my husband met her and said ‘I've found this really great singer you have to work with her!’ I said ok I am not much of a producer but I will try LOL.  I worked with her and produced a few songs…We recorded this at my apartment in the Lower East Side in NYC and then brought it to a studio in Tribeca.”
 
Lastly, about the track Golden Grill, she said, “This [song is] called Golden Grill and I produced it in 2008 (I think?? LOL my brain!!) I was living in Red Square, a cool building on the Lower East Side on NYC- and had a crappy bedroom studio with just one tiny little input board and a shitty mic.”
 
http://lanaboards.com/topic/2247-lana-del-rey-now-interview-with-princess-superstar-moije-joue-producer/?do=findComment&comment=1228784
 
In the 2013 interview she was asked, “The ‘Kill Kill’ EP was released in October 2008 under the name Lizzy Grant. Had you heard about Lizzy prior to meeting her? Which name was she using at the time you met?”, and this was her answer: “ No, I did not hear about her and she was using ‘Lana Del Rey’ already.” Basically, don’t take Princess Superstar’s anecdotes for absolute fact. No offense to her.
 
Nevertheless, these things are for certain:
Ben Mawson was originally Princess Superstar’s lawyer. Princess has consistently testified on multiple occasions that she introduced Lana to Ben Mawson. She herself met Lana through her partner, Miguel Ortega, who is a music producer. Princess Superstar produced tracks for Lana. https://web.archive.org/web/20110806165719/https://princesssuperstar.com/blog/?p=1009  
In the 2013 interview with Lana Del Rey Now tumblr, Princess Superstar said, “ [Lana and I] were working together and I really believed in her, so I introduced her to my then lawyer, Ben Mawson, who I knew was a hustler in the music biz.” Then she claimed, “ We all met at the Bowery Hotel in New York, I played him the music and then he became her manager.” Lana however has said she met Ben at the CMJ Festival in New York's Chinatown. But but but! The Bowery Hotel is in Chinatown. 
 
Next.
 
On Janurary 22nd, 2010, Lana, under the name Lana Del Rey & The Casinos, performed remixes of Hundred Dollar Bills (also known as C-Note which is what Kalae referred to it later) and Diet Mountain Dew with special guest Kalae.
http://lanaboards.com/topic/1645-20100122-highline-ballroom/?do=findComment&comment=426939
http://lanaboards.com/topic/1645-20100122-highline-ballroom/?do=findComment&comment=95934
http://lanaboards.com/topic/1645-20100122-highline-ballroom/?do=findComment&comment=1266432
 
According to Kalae, she had her own verses.

However, this remix is not the version of Hundred Dollar Bills with a rap verse. These versions performed on 01/22/2010 have not surfaced. These remixes were produced by Princess Superstar. (There is speculation of there being other remixes involving Princess Superstar! ) Princess Superstar messaged lizzology yesterday and said, “Hi there! I will look for the Kalae song it is probably in some dusty old hard drive ha ha!”
 

 
 
Known Lana songs that involve Princess Superstar are Moi Je Joue, Live Forever/Golden Grill, Catch & Release, and Maha Maha. These titles are registered with the ACSP and all credit Concetta Suzanne Kirschner, which is Princess Superstar’s real name.
https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/search/workID/887533147
https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/search/workID/887533090
https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/search/workID/887532779
https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/search/workID/887533110
 
Moi Je Joue leaked in 2012. Princess Superstar acknowledged the track in 2013. She commented,”I have no idea how that got out because it’s beyond rough and the worst one that we did together.”
 
Princess Superstar shared a Live Forever Acapella track on her Patreon September 23, 2022.
https://twitter.com/psuperstar/status/1573387915929190400?s=46&t=1DfgrQUFqWShqYr7RfTokQ http://lanaboards.com/topic/15959-princess-superstar-lizzy-grant-segement-on-patreon/?do=findComment&comment=1386810
She also clarified that it is the song “Chick Habit” that has backing vocals from Lizzy not "Boss Chick" which she originally claimed in 2021. Lizzy's vocals are in the chorus. 
http://lanaboards.com/topic/15959-princess-superstar-lizzy-grant-segement-on-patreon/?do=findComment&comment=1386281
 
Edited for links to sources!
 

I’m too lazy - but if you go to @/thatvenicebitch’s IG story, you can see Sean’s response to Ricky in 2019 and a cluster of his wishes for Lana’s dancers to be deported 

I’m too lazy - but if you go to @/thatvenicebitch’s IG story, you can see Sean’s response to Ricky in 2019 and a cluster of his wishes for Lana’s dancers to be deported 

I’m too lazy - but if you go to @/thatvenicebitch’s IG story, you can see Sean’s response to Ricky in 2019 and a cluster of his wishes for Lana’s dancers to be deported