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“Wrong political views” implies that there is only one way to think about issues. One problem with many people now is they can’t accept that not everyone thinks the way they do.
 
As an LGBTQIA citizen myself I have experienced a lot. But I don’t think I have had it easy. But I also don’t believe in making enemies based upon differences of opinion.

Actually she can do whatever the hell she wants with her life. Those freedoms are enshrined in the Constitution. And the way she lives her PRIVATE life is NOT the business of THE PUBLIC.

I’d rather hear the album first before making a judgement. Yes Jack is the producer so maybe it might feel Lana inspired. Maybe it won’t. We shall see.
 
But Jack is having a great year!

I’m sure they would be down for a collaboration!

Either title is marketable. Whatever she prefers! I know Lana will make the right call.

Those Joan Baez paintings she posted were lovely. I think the one of Lana could be used on the next album. Maybe as a cover or back cover. Perhaps the vinyl version.
 
Joan is so amazing! Thrilled she is getting the Woodie Guthrie prize!

honestly considering the idea of what Taylor’s album is supposed to be about, I really wanna hear it and see if I pick up on anything. i haven’t heard a taylor album since 1949 or whatever that one was called, it’s been years
 
it’d be cool if her and lana both made nods to each other in their albums with the same producer

The entire deck was stacked in that Grammy race. Lana doesn’t have a team that stacks the deck. Billie took part in GrammyU as a kid, she grew up around the academy and with industry connections. Of course she won. Welcome to Hollywood!
 
Lana is not a Hollywood insider. She is for the people. Not the establishment.

The fact that Billie Eyelash didn't just get a Grammy but also a documentary before Lana is embarassing

Agree 100%. As I said, Lana speaks for THE PEOPLE.
 
She will win a Grammy, maybe Spoken Word Album next year. She’s got a real shot. But she will win a Grammy at some point.
 
The Hollywood walk of Fame Star is a lot of politicking, but she could get one one day.
 
I have been saying for the past two years that she should get a Netflix documentary!

I have no issue with who she dates. If she is happy that’s all that matters.
Looks like a haters page indeed!
 
I didn’t expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition!

“Wrong political views” implies that there is only one way to think about issues. One problem with many people now is they can’t accept that not everyone thinks the way they do.
 
As an LGBTQIA citizen myself I have experienced a lot. But I don’t think I have had it easy. But I also don’t believe in making enemies based upon differences of opinion.

Yes, Lana definitely paved the way for sad music, but although we all hate talking about the "Question for the culture" post, I think she said some very important things in there. Her music shows you that it's okay to be a submissive "weak" woman. Her submissive lyrics were and still are considered super controversial but I'm happy she stood behind them because for a lot of women, me included, those lyrics are much more relatable and real than more "empowered" sounding lyrics.
 
I also think her style helped popularize a 50/60 retro aesthetic. I agree with @AlexParliament, I think she'll go down in musical history and has already made a lasting impact. Hopefully she'll get her Grammy and Walk of Fame star soon! I also want a documentary & a biography.

omfg !! thanks for this !! so deep...

Those Joan Baez paintings she posted were lovely. I think the one of Lana could be used on the next album. Maybe as a cover or back cover. Perhaps the vinyl version.
 
Joan is so amazing! Thrilled she is getting the Woodie Guthrie prize!

Well to understand Lana’s impact we first need to understand where Lana’s inspiration comes from.
 
So where does Lana’s inspiration come from? Her biggest influences are Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Leonard Cohen, Bruce Springsteen, Stevie Nicks, Crosby, Stills and Nash, Neil Young. Laurel Canyon has had a huge influence on her art. We can’t forget about the influence Lou Reed has had on Lana. Even David Lynch’s art has had a major influence on her art.
 
So Lana has a Rock and a Roll heart but a folk music soul. You can trace her musical roots all the way back to Woody Guthrie.
 
So fast forward to 2011-2012 when Lana started shaking things up. At that time pop music was happy, fun and upbeat. But could people really relate to that? No. The music industry establishment itself was out of touch with the audience. Lana came in with songs people related to on a very deep level. She brought substance. The music critics were at first very unfair to her. She did not fit into the mold of a neatly processed pop star. She was not an industry plant like so many other people at the time. Lana was real. She received online hate because she was authentic, a woman and beautiful. But as time went by Lana secured a loyal fan base really fast. On top of that she was making money and money is what makes the music industry go round. And take my word for this; I come from a music industry family. My father is a Grammy nominated engineer, so I know what goes on. So the critics may have been unfair to Lana, but she secured and audience and was making money on one of the top record labels (Interscope).
 
As for the indie genre, Lana’s impact has been huge. Without Lana you would not have Lorde or Billie Eilish. Lana paved the way for them so that they can be successful and win Grammys even though NARAS is yet to give Lana a much deserved Grammy.
 
But Lana has done something very few musicians do; she has created a new genre of music; Hollywood Sadcore.
 
Only recently people have finally started to recognize Lana’s impact and how she was the most influential songwriter of the 2010s. Taylor Swift said it best when she said that Lana is her favorite contemporary songwriter. You can even see Lana’s influence on Taylor Swift.
 
When the history books are written, they will be very kind to Lana. 20 years from now the history books will look back at 2012 and say that Lana changed the industry. All the criticism from that time will be silenced. Let’s remember that many of Lana’s musical heros were not fully embraced at first. Bob Dylan wasn’t fully embraced at first. Now he is a Nobel prize winner. Bruce Springsteen who praised Lana last week had to deal with similar criticism from music critics.
 
Let us be absolutely clear; Lana Del Rey is the greatest musical storyteller of her generation. As a songwriter she is every bit as good as Bob Dylan. And she is the best of her generation because she learns from the best; Dylan, Springsteen, Cohen, Michell, CSN.
 
So to this new generation; Lana is the one who inspired them. Lana is to this generation what Bob Dylan is to the baby boomers.
 
So what did Lana do? She did what she wanted to do. Never do something just because other people do it. Never follow the crowd. Make up your own mind and then do it. This is what Lana did.
 
In The Departed, Jack Nicholson’s character says “I don’t want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product of me”. This is what Lana has done for the music industry.
 
Lana will get the recognition she deserves. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but she will get proper recognition. She is a future member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And speaking of Rock and Roll, Lana is the one who will save that genre. She has already created her own musical genre and she is going to save another one. A revival of folk-rock is already going on thanks to Lana.
 
I can literally go on all day discussing Lana’s impact and where things are going. I have studied music extensively so I just love these kinds of discussions!

She said the album will be called Chemtrails Over the Country Club so that’s what I’m going to assume it is.
 
White Hot Forever could be a song title.

Those Joan Baez paintings she posted were lovely. I think the one of Lana could be used on the next album. Maybe as a cover or back cover. Perhaps the vinyl version.
 
Joan is so amazing! Thrilled she is getting the Woodie Guthrie prize!

something like this but more translucent thank you and goodnight
 

I mean idk but it's realistic, NFR preorder came out a month before the release and now that I think about it she mentioned FILY/the greatest like a week before that. Could Tulsa Jesus Freak/White Hot Forever be this eras FILY/the greatest?

I'm looking forward to it.
I would buy the fuck out of this

She said the album will be called Chemtrails Over the Country Club so that’s what I’m going to assume it is.
 
White Hot Forever could be a song title.

Jack is so lucky he gets to work with the best of the best in this business!

She said the album will be called Chemtrails Over the Country Club so that’s what I’m going to assume it is.
 
White Hot Forever could be a song title.

Either title is marketable. Whatever she prefers! I know Lana will make the right call.