Cum Sock

as i said. i'll believe it when i see it, as in the song being real. i just dont see why an almost middle aged woman would make a diss song about someone who's never put her down or whatever, not that i care. it seems highly unreasonable and from all of these posts, regardless if its a reliable insider or not, is just word of mouth.

damn girl what is your problem 😭😭

b sides coming later this year lets all stop fighting also do we think she will do a vinyl for perverts that would be so dope

You know what kind of CEOs she’s talking about. 
 
anyway stream Perverts

made a lil vacillator artwork while listening to the album  the ambient tracks are really growing on me
 

https://mothercain.tumblr.com/post/772088182834675712/is-it-true-youre-trying-to-push-away-from-the

how is making an ambient album edgy?

Calling someone an “edgelord” for experimenting in a genre that has been around for decades is not the intellectual take that you think it is idk 

What I’m saying is you’re being condescending. It’s fine to dislike or even hate something but hate it for what it is. You made it seem like Ethel was trying to be edgy or whatever for the sake of it and trivialized her creative vision by saying she was doing it out of spite for TikTok or whatever which is stupid  

This is not what I said??? Music that’s not bizarre (which is such an arbitrary and subjective way of describing it) can be called art just like any avant garde or niche release. 
 
You’ll be alright, this isn’t a permanent shift in her music. While you’ll be waiting for another catchy TikTok friendly song, we will be enjoying drilling noise, because we’re such pretentious try hards 

You’re calling people stupid while it’s you who was exposed to valid arguments and still dismissed the album as pointless. You’ve got the right to feel this way, but your way of expressing this doesn’t make you look smart, quite the opposite, actually. 

music isn't about success or how many monthly listeners you have you bellend.... i think you're the one to talk about having less of a point when ur on here talking about how you can't defend someone for releasing long music. i think some grass touching will do you good babe. i'm not gonna instigate this convo further <3

ok first off: YOU KNOW the exact kind of ceo's she's talking about. support local businesses and not billionaire scumbags.

and second of all: if you think perverts is long, you'll have a heart attack listening to any swans album from the 2010s or half of the albums in natural snow buildings discography. ur acting like she said the n word talking about defending her for releasing the music she wants to 💀

she doesn't do it to be different she literally just wanted to explore some of her favourite genres lol + you know damn well no one who hates CEOs is thinking about some poor lady instead of world leaders and rich bastards. let's use our brains!

PR? ethel cain? 

lana take notes

She has been saying things like this, even before she was releasing anything 

As if people who support CEOs listen to her music anyway

I honestly have to respect how Ethel stans truly do the most in creating an off-putting aura towards her and her art  I remember around preachers daughter release when @the ocean lied about Ethel wanting this thread taken down for the sole purpose of gatekeeping when the thread was basically just them and another member cirlce jerking about being in the exclusive Ethel discord  and the lana comparisons discourse oooh what a time that was  im listening rn Im on track 3 and its great so far! I feel like Im naked and damp sitting in the corner of a dingy ass trap house slipping and sliding on broken glass n shit wondering how I got here from my once seemingly perfect golden suburban upbringing . saw someone on twitter call it skinamarink vibes and thats so true  adore that movie 
 
 

this. i wish i was in 2022 again stanning ethel bc her fanbase since 2023 has been so weird.
 
its a mixed batch of prentetious people who wanna gatekeep her and are so excited with this idea that she's trying to push people away, and they project that idea on swifties who came into the fandom who aren't fond at all of the idea of a body of work like perverts. they find it weird and offputting. not really their fault i can't lie, but i wish there was more people who actually could appreciate the art ethel makes, and her concepts etc etc, not all this bullshit about "ur too pussy to listen to ethel cain" or "no one wants to hear shitty white noise etc etc" when the project itself is far beyond the idea of just white noise. did you even listen to perverts in the first place? 

This is already ringing true lol. Anyways, I think it's cool that she's making the type of music she wants to make instead of leaning into what people expect of her, but I do think a lot of her fans will fully force themselves to like this EP and even pretend like this is miles ahead of Preacher's Daughter because it's less accessible and enjoying it gives them some type of sense of superiority (which is normal if you're a teenager, but if you're a grown adult and still care about all that then... grow up no shade). That's not saying there won't be many fans who will genuinely love this EP though. I'm currently 5 tracks in, I really enjoy Punish and Vacillator. I don't see myself listening to this EP in full again though.

On one hand I support and will eagerly listen to whatever she does and on the other hand the number of obsessive fans who are excited for her to “lose fans” because of the musics inaccessibility  is really strange and off putting.

noticed no interviews this time around...i get why but would've loved to see her talk about the album a bit

Tbh, at this point, this is the least excited I've been for a Lana record ever.
 
For one, the constant shift in direction seems insecure, as does the release date delay, as does the title change.
 
The new title is actually not an improvement over the last one. Hate me all you want, but Lasso was better.
 
Drew Erickson as a producer - snooze.
 
Announcing "two more singles", then backtracking also sounds like insecurity to me.
 
Henry sure sounds great, but also like nothing we haven't already heard on Chemtrails. (Based on the snippet alone). Also, she teased that a year ago, and clearly hasn't made songs that she's more proud of. So I'm not expecting "big" songs like Ride or West Coast or even OB, because than that would be her choice of single.
 
There doesn't seem to be a proper album cover yet, which also says to me that the album is nowhere near actual materialisation.
 
At 13 songs only, it'll be only slightly longer than Chemtrails probably, which is her shortest record to date.
 
Lastly, it's her longest break between albums (right?), but even May 21st sounds iffy. The fact that we have to wait six (or more) months is just excruciating. And god knows when the first single will drop. For all we know, she'll delay the album again, and drop the single in May.
 
It's not the best time to be a Lana fan tbh. Don't throw tomatoes on me, this is just my opinion.