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Didn't Jack Antonoff also mention that those bombastic NFR outtakes are girl-group tracks like The Shangri-Las?

Also, people tend to forget that the version of TNBAR that was in NFR was already intended to be on the final version of LFL because in an interview in 2017, Lana said that TNBAR is about Topanga and such.

Also, I know it's some kind of a sensitive topic she touched in Fingertips and The Grants but
 

Lately I had a theory, that between August 2015-March 2016, Lana wanted to do a deluxe or some kind of a special version (similar to Paradise) for Honeymoon. I know that Honeymoon was a vanity project but that kind of explains why she was making random songs during Summer/Autumn 2015 like Serene Queen or Cry Kill Die. She wanted to do a special version for Ultraviolence too and it later was formed as Honeymoon. I think Lust For Life album we know as today was formed after the end of her Festival Tour in August 2016/September 2016. Because I remember something that she recorded LFL with Abel in September 2016 (because he had a new haircut or something + they had recorded Stargirl and Party Monster in 2016 too).

Yeah I agree, I think if it had the "alleged" slow sound like the LFL demo and such, it would've had lukewarm reception like COTCC had (although I adore COTCC and it didn't deserve the hate) from the fans and GP. (Although when LFL album was released its reception was great from fans and GP until it started receiving hate from fans in 2018?)
 
My unpopular opinion is that the Lust For Life album we have, is flawless and perfect but that's of course matter of taste and choices. 
 
Without the so-called changes and the final product of the current Lust For Life, we definitely wouldn't have NFR and all the albums what followed it.

maybe not her best song ever but it IS a career highlight thats for sure 

Ajayll reaction coming next week 

Fingertips being her best song ever, yup 

“groupie love was actually going to be released with its 279th mix!”

Also, people tend to forget that the version of TNBAR that was in NFR was already intended to be on the final version of LFL because in an interview in 2017, Lana said that TNBAR is about Topanga and such.

Lately I had a theory, that between August 2015-March 2016, Lana wanted to do a deluxe or some kind of a special version (similar to Paradise) for Honeymoon. I know that Honeymoon was a vanity project but that kind of explains why she was making random songs during Summer/Autumn 2015 like Serene Queen or Cry Kill Die. She wanted to do a special version for Ultraviolence too and it later was formed as Honeymoon. I think Lust For Life album we know as today was formed after the end of her Festival Tour in August 2016/September 2016. Because I remember something that she recorded LFL with Abel in September 2016 (because he had a new haircut or something + they had recorded Stargirl and Party Monster in 2016 too).

When Coachella was released, I loved it so much (I still love it, one of my favorites, I'm probably the only fan of the song) and the whole time I listened to the song, there were like hate comments everywhere.
 
I do find the song kind of "unusual" but it doesn't mean it's bad. I'd like to add some strings to the song though 

@111 can this months exclusive be something about this please?? 

I remember reading some meh 🫤 reviews here for the album even though I wasn’t a LB member back then (I was pretty much lurking here daily ). Coachella was the « turning point » /no return point for the LFL hate from LB back then (although the title track got some negative reviews here also). Thank God for new members that brought some love for LFL since then. 
 
agree with you that NFR wouldn’t even exist without LFL (in a way, NFR is a more « polished » LFL).
 
one of my fondest memories as a Lana Stan will always be the July 12 debacle undfolding here, when the track list was posted with the preorder and the interview with Zane Lowe… No RBFY!!! (Although we knew right from the starts she’d scrap it) No Yosemite! No BAR! A different Summer Bummer version from the album is on her YouTube channel! That version has been taken down! Coachella is on the track list, she should have scrapped it!! Oh the meltdowns  Good times.

Yeah I agree, I think if it had the "alleged" slow sound like the LFL demo and such, it would've had lukewarm reception like COTCC had (although I adore COTCC and it didn't deserve the hate) from the fans and GP. (Although when LFL album was released its reception was great from fans and GP until it started receiving hate from fans in 2018?)
 
My unpopular opinion is that the Lust For Life album we have, is flawless and perfect but that's of course matter of taste and choices. 
 
Without the so-called changes and the final product of the current Lust For Life, we definitely wouldn't have NFR and all the albums what followed it.

Yeah I agree, I think if it had the "alleged" slow sound like the LFL demo and such, it would've had lukewarm reception like COTCC had (although I adore COTCC and it didn't deserve the hate) from the fans and GP. (Although when LFL album was released its reception was great from fans and GP until it started receiving hate from fans in 2018?)
 
My unpopular opinion is that the Lust For Life album we have, is flawless and perfect but that's of course matter of taste and choices. 
 
Without the so-called changes and the final product of the current Lust For Life, we definitely wouldn't have NFR and all the albums what followed it.

Also, people tend to forget that the version of TNBAR that was in NFR was already intended to be on the final version of LFL because in an interview in 2017, Lana said that TNBAR is about Topanga and such.

we actually need more info for this album… when i wake up i want something

LFL is one interesting era indeed.
I wouldn’t change the album at all, as « imperfect » as it is (I don’t mind the different genres of it, but some songs could have benefited a bit more polishing with the trap beats, like Coachella and In My Feelings; they kinda clash with the tracks that have very pristine production), it reflected the state of the US in 2017 and my personal state of mind. 
 
I love how the outtakes bring us closer to the witchy, folky, spacey Lana that I love so much. And as much as I love that initial concept, I’m not so sure we would have loved LFL as much as we say we would; I think a lot of people would have called it « Honeymoon snore fest 2.0 » (yes, this is how HM was perceived back then). 
 
anyways, I want Cry Kill Die!
 

I can objectively say that the interlude is great. The instrumentals are incredible. 
 
but I’ve never been able to listen to it more than once because of my personal background (I was raised in baptist churches and a white dude preaching / yelling has me really triggered; I had a similar experience watching Shinny Happy People on Prime, a documentary about fundamentalist churches in the States and it brought back all of my anxieties / discomfort / unhappiness from my childhood). That being said, I get why she put it there but maybe if she had chopped the sermon by two minutes I could have soldiered through.  

Radiohead is all about social anxiety, being unable to find peace and lasting human connections. Lana tells the story of her doomed romances and decay of the American dream. Although they sound different, they both share the same sadness / melancholy throughout. 

True. The piano notes of the end of the song is even worse! 

Here it is 🪐
https://youtu.be/HT7uEg4Z2A0
That's probably unpopular opinion because I have never seen anyone talking about this but the intro of Watercolor Eyes really reminds me of the intro of Creep.

Here it is 🪐
https://youtu.be/HT7uEg4Z2A0
That's probably unpopular opinion because I have never seen anyone talking about this but the intro of Watercolor Eyes really reminds me of the intro of Creep.

Link please?
Edit: found it! https://www.instagram.com/tv/CXv4pkTo6BZ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==