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she was not talking about Banks, that already was verified and makes no sense anyhow in what Honeymoon means

Ever notice at events how every single other artist wants to meet Lana (like Adele)
They want to flock to be in her air
 
Rarified. Like Dylan, Paul Simon, Prince how when they do something (and its very rare for them too) everyone wants to be caught next to them

Ever notice at events how every single other artist wants to meet Lana (like Adele)
They want to flock to be in her air
 
Rarified. Like Dylan, Paul Simon, Prince how when they do something (and its very rare for them too) everyone wants to be caught next to them

YAYO- pre-LDRey and all the versions...
of the Lana Del Rey songs- in somewhat date order
Video Games
Born to Die-
Ride-as another said above both monologues are Lana
American-everybody wants to go fast but Lana is NOT everyone
Once Upon  a Dream shows in this cover the definitive reading by Lana
Brooklyn Baby- and if you don't get it you can beat it, beat it baby
Salvatore= which shows Lana to be THE Trailblazer that Billboard magazine awarded - And everyone else is way behind her when she cranks her head and glances back

YAYO- pre-LDRey and all the versions...
of the Lana Del Rey songs- in somewhat date order
Video Games
Born to Die-
Ride-as another said above both monologues are Lana
American-everybody wants to go fast but Lana is NOT everyone
Once Upon  a Dream shows in this cover the definitive reading by Lana
Brooklyn Baby- and if you don't get it you can beat it, beat it baby
Salvatore= which shows Lana to be THE Trailblazer that Billboard magazine awarded - And everyone else is way behind her when she cranks her head and glances back

Ever notice at events how every single other artist wants to meet Lana (like Adele)
They want to flock to be in her air
 
Rarified. Like Dylan, Paul Simon, Prince how when they do something (and its very rare for them too) everyone wants to be caught next to them

I feel RIDE represents Lana the best . The whole message of the song + the monologue represents her soul, her struggle, her success, her downfall, her will to carry on even in the bleakest of times. It's the song that's closest to me as well because it talks about being at war with yourself and since I'm a Gemini it resonates deeply within me. I feel it's an Anthem for Gemini's all over the world written by the Gemini Goddess herself.

/ / I'm tired of feeling like I'm fucking crazy
I'm tired of driving 'til I see stars in my eyes
It's all I've got to keep myself sane baby
so I just Ride I just Ride / /

Ride is about Lana narrating her life story, about her difficulty to connect with people, a struggle to find people who have a similar thought process akin to her. It's about feeling trapped within yourself and the only way to experience a release from the prison that is your "mind" is by expressing your "self" through Art regardless of how it may appear to others.

http://thequietus.com/articles/07106-lana-del-rey-interview

Have you always had a dark side, Lana?

Lana Del Rey: When I was younger I felt lonely... In terms of my thought processes. I had the constant feeling that I thought differently to everyone around me. So, I suppose I felt lonely for a home. I didn't know where I wanted to be, but I knew I wasn't there yet. I think that this loneliness set a dark undertone for things to come.

Yes Lana is declining- She is declining to pay any attention to the haters
She is declining to pay any attention to those that want her to be what she is not (she said this right in the lyric)
She is declining to pay any attention to those that want her to go backwards not forwards
She is declining to be unhappy in her personal life
She is declining to play the #1 celebrity teenage fame game
She is declining all negativity and
She is declinng to sweat the small stuff
 
She is happy. I am happy she is declining all of the above.
 
to quote the Sinatra song "She did it HER way"
 
Long live Lana. The Trailblazer. Where everyone follows her lead and if you don't like it you can beat it, beat it baby.

Yes Lana is declining- She is declining to pay any attention to the haters
She is declining to pay any attention to those that want her to be what she is not (she said this right in the lyric)
She is declining to pay any attention to those that want her to go backwards not forwards
She is declining to be unhappy in her personal life
She is declining to play the #1 celebrity teenage fame game
She is declining all negativity and
She is declinng to sweat the small stuff
 
She is happy. I am happy she is declining all of the above.
 
to quote the Sinatra song "She did it HER way"
 
Long live Lana. The Trailblazer. Where everyone follows her lead and if you don't like it you can beat it, beat it baby.

Yes Lana is declining- She is declining to pay any attention to the haters
She is declining to pay any attention to those that want her to be what she is not (she said this right in the lyric)
She is declining to pay any attention to those that want her to go backwards not forwards
She is declining to be unhappy in her personal life
She is declining to play the #1 celebrity teenage fame game
She is declining all negativity and
She is declinng to sweat the small stuff
 
She is happy. I am happy she is declining all of the above.
 
to quote the Sinatra song "She did it HER way"
 
Long live Lana. The Trailblazer. Where everyone follows her lead and if you don't like it you can beat it, beat it baby.

Lana was just announced to be headlining Osheaga this summer in Montreal
 
Hopefully she'll perform some new Honeymoon songs

As probably one of the older people here (horrible thought, I used to be all of your ages),
I was aware and into Lana as Lizzy early on. (and this is going to have a few separate parts to it)
 
However, in 2011-2012 had a major health problem ended up in hospital for 5 days (though no procedure was done).
Doctor called it almost like a parent does- he gave me a time-out to reevaluate my daily intake of food and real soda. (In essence a cheese and coke addict (coke=cola)
Not to mention it had been more than a decade of not going to the doc to begin with.
While there with my computer completely listening to Lana/lizzy wall to wall and from major fan it turned to major inspiration.
 
In reality, Lana saved my life. Sounds corny, family members think it is bull, however, it is true.
She brought me through and afterwards as I continued to rehab my lifestyle, and for the first time in years began an exercise program where I swim (now at least an hour a day).
And I swam to her in perfect timing (Lana's beats per minute coincide with my hands slapping down into the water (Salvatore is the latest, but I do a perfect sync to Video Games
and Pawn shop blues for instance.
 
Lana is for those in some ways bullied, flawed, injured, in a way that is not describable and that I never felt before.
 
A little background for the other thing-
I am someone who was around throughout the 60s and music and politics was my life's fun. (WABC top 40 radio, Cousin Brucie and Dan Ingram DJs) where in the summers in NYC at the beach
just about every one of what seemed like millions of beach goers in Coney Island and Riis Park had their transistor radios all tuned together, so if one walked from the beach to the shack to buy a coke in a green bottle on a day when the sand burned the feet and it was feeling like 100degrees (f).  (WABC continued into the early 1980s before become a shitty conservative talk radio I wouldn't be caught dead listening to).
From actually being there when the English invasion began, Roy Orbison in real time, Sinatra with his 60s hits (That's life, Something Stupid, My Way, NY NY)
and seeing Elvis Presley live in concert (and to this day his later 60s/70s songs are my favorite as I heard them live time real time as they were happening)
Seeing Duke Ellington live in concert, Simon & Garfunkel live in Forest Hills stadium in their prime. Saw Nina Simone and Aretha and Ray Charles
then going to the earliest days of Elton John and Bernie Taupin (1969 onward)
From the mid70s discovered country music and went backward to the 1940s,1950s,1960s legendary artists saw Johnny Cash many times.
(Went to see the Highwaymen and the first time I wondered, why is Johnny there. The second time I saw them, I already realized Johnny is the important part of the group, without him, there wouldn't have been the others)
and first discovering Edith Piaf and Marlene Dietrich and Aznavour and Brel and bing Crosby (saw him live in NYC and saw him light the City Hall Christmas Tree and singing White Christmas)
Then punk and new wave (Saw many acts at CBGBs and Max's Kansas City, saw Lou Reed many times
Then continuing to Kate Bush and the Pet Shop Boys. (while continuing with Elton)
and then, music started to suck big time. Sure there was a single or two that was great, but nothing that made me want to discover everything and anything about an artist
 
and I was sure there never would be.
 
My favorite songs of all time are and have been consistent over the years
from the first time I heard them (and both were #1 and #2 the same week)
1968's MacArthur Park by Richard Harris & This Guy in Love by Herb Albert
#3 The Boxer- Simon and Garfunkel 1969
#4 Whiter Shade of Pale- Gary Brooker's vocal as Procol Harum 1968
#5 Elton John's Someone saved my life 1975
 
Until I heard Elizabeth Grant sing and her songs, and it made me think-
If I myself would put together the perfect musical act, with a spoonful of all the artists in the past, Lana would be the one.
It is uncanny.
 
Now, if I made up my all time Top 100, at least 40 songs would be Lana's. After decades of the list never changing.
 
anyhow...again, Elizabeth Grant saved my life. And I thank her for doing just that.
What an inspiration and what a perfect person for the age when bullying and abuse is heard in the news almost daily.
 
and as I keep saying, Lana has transcended above every single female artist, writing lyrics as poetry and the music too, and producing, and the sounds and music are akin to Brian Wilson "Smile"
or the Beatles "Sgt. Pepper's". (and the Beatles were 4 people, 2 main songwriters (John and Paul) and George Martin producing.
or Elton's Goodbye Yellowbrick Road or Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy (and Elton only does the music and doesn't produce, and Bernie writes the lyrics)
And how important it is- she PRODUCED every song on the Honeymoon album. She is one of the boys in the highest parts of music.
And I don't give a shit if nobody else here agrees with me. A complete artiste in a world filled with cookie cutter copies. One Lana/Elizabeth.
Others attempt to copy, attempt her style, but one hears a Lana song and it's a Lana song.
 
Like eating a slice of pizza or a bagel outside of New York City and they call it NY Style. But it ain't New York Original.
 
note- I might edit this, but for now
graham4anything.

Yes Lana is declining- She is declining to pay any attention to the haters
She is declining to pay any attention to those that want her to be what she is not (she said this right in the lyric)
She is declining to pay any attention to those that want her to go backwards not forwards
She is declining to be unhappy in her personal life
She is declining to play the #1 celebrity teenage fame game
She is declining all negativity and
She is declinng to sweat the small stuff
 
She is happy. I am happy she is declining all of the above.
 
to quote the Sinatra song "She did it HER way"
 
Long live Lana. The Trailblazer. Where everyone follows her lead and if you don't like it you can beat it, beat it baby.

@@PARADIXO- the blackest day- I love the song. I love her voice on it. I love the "groove" of it. And the play on Billie Holiday. As with all her songs on their proper albums (as opposed to bonus songs)
it is hard to think, what would I have thought of this song, if the others were not there before or after. I haven't specifically played Blackest Day apart from the others.
So it is perfect in the concept of the album, and it again reference of fame, and as time is going on, she is going "deeper and deeper" into Lana Del Rey and being resolute but though this song and Swan song appear dark, she is NOT going to stop, not going to give up, but keeping at it, again, though, on her terms and not what anyone tells her to do.
 
The part from "you should have known better, than to have her, to let her" that is so her/her
(and by the way, to me that reminds me of the Beach Boys "Kokomo", their only #1 that Brian Wilson had nothing to do with, but was co-written by one of the Mama's and Papa's)
 
so it is like driving through a tunnel at night and then coming out on the other side and it's morning, the sun is about to rise and the answer is clear
(even though the song is called "The Blackest Day")
 
and going to Swan Song, where she lets you know, that in an instance, Lana could be gone, but Lana ain't going anywhere.
 
(and it don't have to be taken as 100% real person autobiographical, but it can be built on it regardless).
 
I have always said (and in my signature I reference Edith Piaf), but Billie Holiday and Edith Piaf both have parts of their life similar, and both had periods in their life where
they were called (basically) trash, not worthy, posers not the real thing, but at the end, they stood tall, and today are considered iconic
(Lana and her haters call her the same exact thing).
The really ironic part about Lana is, that she already has the money and could just disappear, but she won't. Because she is not in it for the money or the fame or the #1
singles at this point.
She might have started out, back in the first chapters as such, in her immature days, but coming out of that tunnel, has decided , well,
she don't need it, she is happy. (one thing that is evident is how she really appeared happy during the endless summer tour, as if "the weight of the world was off her shoulders"
 
note- the "Weight of the world" is a really great almost unknown Elton John song from 2004, from the album "Peachtree road" (a street in Atlanta Georgia where Elton has a home)
and how he has gotten out of the "top 40 " single world, and is and has continued but not going for #1songs anymore.
(A really great song, the album was in the style of Lionel Richie & The Commodores "Easy".
 
and to put this in Lana terms- wish she would do this-
He did the entire album on tour in the middle of a 4 hour show, both in the UK and the US
I saw it both at Wembley, in the UK, where he had a complete orchestra and choir (all white)
and then at Radio City Music Hall, in NYC, again with choir (this time all black), and full orchestra
it was incredible and the different choirs gave both a completely different sound. 
Wish Lana would do some one-offs like that.

@@kristinaj- I shouldn't have brought up a negative on Bowie.
the last thing I will say on it- Bowie was always positive/proessional in the presence of suits and was quite uncomfortable in the one on one or one on small group with a fan in jeans
whereas, let's say- Elton John will rant and have tantrums aginst the press, the suits, the industry
but time permitting, from day one, has always been pleasant with fans (but not paparazzi).

@kristanaj- Bowie died an older person, of a non-rock star ordinary person death that anyone could die of.
It was not a Rock star death. Bowie made it to older age (though not overly old, but not 27 either, not in his 40s like Elvis. Not an overdose
and basically, not a death that was from excess.
 
Bowie and Lana have a similar chart trajectory (talking USA charts)
 (Lana actually has better chart stats than Bowie in the same amount of time Bowie had
Space Oddity was a bomb the first time it was released, and never was a high charter (much like Video Games  and
other songs did not chart in the early days
(Bowie went Disco and got the #1s later on, and wrote with Lennon and Fame became #1 and did duets and had major hits
(and also some shit, like the Jagger duet).
 
Bowie did few award shows, bowie got few awards (1 grammy and 1 lifetime achievement, though I predict next yr. will win album, male, record of the year if not more, and keep Adele from winning(she was not eligible this year)
 
Major difference between Bowie and Lana is Lana is much more down to earth, and fan-friendly whereas Bowie was a major asshole
if you met him or asked for an autograph. He considered himself high above a regular person and brushed off fans all the time as a waste of his time.
 
You can believe Lana is not a persona, however, prior to Honeymoon, I believed one day Lana would be no more and Elizabeth would be, now knowing Lana has had problems with stalkers, psychos, etc. Lana is a way of being Lana on days she wants to, and the months where no one hears anything, she is Elizabeth, in her private life. (and that can be true even if there is no difference between Lana and Elizabeth.
 
Not being on the merry-go-round where the press is notified someone is going to be at such and such (and then expressing mock horror the press is there) and that is basically the story of High by the beach.
 
It's a continuing theme.
 
Some here think/thought she(Lana/Elizabeth) would just disappear forever.
 
Plainly she is saying that will never happen.
 
But it's the community she is with that matters, not the fame, not the sales, not the charts
The creating experience, the writing, the recording, the mixing, then doing it all again 9 months later(releasing it a year or 18 months after)
that is important.
Not the bullshit.
So if she wants to party and be with friends in the biz at functions, she goes. But she don't do the shows
 
Many stars do all the shit
However, many stars don't do the shit and are still stars (and many of those are held in high esteem even if they don't kiss every ass that needs to be kissed.
 
(Reminds me of Neil Diamond,in his 20s, in 1967, singing "Girl you'll be a woman soon" and Neil Diamond, in his 70s now, singing the same song
and one has to go ewww that is weird, a 70 year old singing a song about a 16 or 17 year old.
 
the great thing is, if Lana ever actually wants to have a string of #1 singles, or even one, she is just one day away from that song happening.
Doesn't mean though she will ever actually want it, and it's up to her, isn't it?
 
After all, she could also do a 6 way duet with the 5 Lucian Grande Best Album nominees and have a super group #1 (or do 6 different duets that all are released as singles, including one with Kendrick, and 1 with the country singer Chris Stapleton, etc.)

@@PARADIXO- the blackest day- I love the song. I love her voice on it. I love the "groove" of it. And the play on Billie Holiday. As with all her songs on their proper albums (as opposed to bonus songs)
it is hard to think, what would I have thought of this song, if the others were not there before or after. I haven't specifically played Blackest Day apart from the others.
So it is perfect in the concept of the album, and it again reference of fame, and as time is going on, she is going "deeper and deeper" into Lana Del Rey and being resolute but though this song and Swan song appear dark, she is NOT going to stop, not going to give up, but keeping at it, again, though, on her terms and not what anyone tells her to do.
 
The part from "you should have known better, than to have her, to let her" that is so her/her
(and by the way, to me that reminds me of the Beach Boys "Kokomo", their only #1 that Brian Wilson had nothing to do with, but was co-written by one of the Mama's and Papa's)
 
so it is like driving through a tunnel at night and then coming out on the other side and it's morning, the sun is about to rise and the answer is clear
(even though the song is called "The Blackest Day")
 
and going to Swan Song, where she lets you know, that in an instance, Lana could be gone, but Lana ain't going anywhere.
 
(and it don't have to be taken as 100% real person autobiographical, but it can be built on it regardless).
 
I have always said (and in my signature I reference Edith Piaf), but Billie Holiday and Edith Piaf both have parts of their life similar, and both had periods in their life where
they were called (basically) trash, not worthy, posers not the real thing, but at the end, they stood tall, and today are considered iconic
(Lana and her haters call her the same exact thing).
The really ironic part about Lana is, that she already has the money and could just disappear, but she won't. Because she is not in it for the money or the fame or the #1
singles at this point.
She might have started out, back in the first chapters as such, in her immature days, but coming out of that tunnel, has decided , well,
she don't need it, she is happy. (one thing that is evident is how she really appeared happy during the endless summer tour, as if "the weight of the world was off her shoulders"
 
note- the "Weight of the world" is a really great almost unknown Elton John song from 2004, from the album "Peachtree road" (a street in Atlanta Georgia where Elton has a home)
and how he has gotten out of the "top 40 " single world, and is and has continued but not going for #1songs anymore.
(A really great song, the album was in the style of Lionel Richie & The Commodores "Easy".
 
and to put this in Lana terms- wish she would do this-
He did the entire album on tour in the middle of a 4 hour show, both in the UK and the US
I saw it both at Wembley, in the UK, where he had a complete orchestra and choir (all white)
and then at Radio City Music Hall, in NYC, again with choir (this time all black), and full orchestra
it was incredible and the different choirs gave both a completely different sound. 
Wish Lana would do some one-offs like that.

@kristanaj- Bowie died an older person, of a non-rock star ordinary person death that anyone could die of.
It was not a Rock star death. Bowie made it to older age (though not overly old, but not 27 either, not in his 40s like Elvis. Not an overdose
and basically, not a death that was from excess.
 
Bowie and Lana have a similar chart trajectory (talking USA charts)
 (Lana actually has better chart stats than Bowie in the same amount of time Bowie had
Space Oddity was a bomb the first time it was released, and never was a high charter (much like Video Games  and
other songs did not chart in the early days
(Bowie went Disco and got the #1s later on, and wrote with Lennon and Fame became #1 and did duets and had major hits
(and also some shit, like the Jagger duet).
 
Bowie did few award shows, bowie got few awards (1 grammy and 1 lifetime achievement, though I predict next yr. will win album, male, record of the year if not more, and keep Adele from winning(she was not eligible this year)
 
Major difference between Bowie and Lana is Lana is much more down to earth, and fan-friendly whereas Bowie was a major asshole
if you met him or asked for an autograph. He considered himself high above a regular person and brushed off fans all the time as a waste of his time.
 
You can believe Lana is not a persona, however, prior to Honeymoon, I believed one day Lana would be no more and Elizabeth would be, now knowing Lana has had problems with stalkers, psychos, etc. Lana is a way of being Lana on days she wants to, and the months where no one hears anything, she is Elizabeth, in her private life. (and that can be true even if there is no difference between Lana and Elizabeth.
 
Not being on the merry-go-round where the press is notified someone is going to be at such and such (and then expressing mock horror the press is there) and that is basically the story of High by the beach.
 
It's a continuing theme.
 
Some here think/thought she(Lana/Elizabeth) would just disappear forever.
 
Plainly she is saying that will never happen.
 
But it's the community she is with that matters, not the fame, not the sales, not the charts
The creating experience, the writing, the recording, the mixing, then doing it all again 9 months later(releasing it a year or 18 months after)
that is important.
Not the bullshit.
So if she wants to party and be with friends in the biz at functions, she goes. But she don't do the shows
 
Many stars do all the shit
However, many stars don't do the shit and are still stars (and many of those are held in high esteem even if they don't kiss every ass that needs to be kissed.
 
(Reminds me of Neil Diamond,in his 20s, in 1967, singing "Girl you'll be a woman soon" and Neil Diamond, in his 70s now, singing the same song
and one has to go ewww that is weird, a 70 year old singing a song about a 16 or 17 year old.
 
the great thing is, if Lana ever actually wants to have a string of #1 singles, or even one, she is just one day away from that song happening.
Doesn't mean though she will ever actually want it, and it's up to her, isn't it?
 
After all, she could also do a 6 way duet with the 5 Lucian Grande Best Album nominees and have a super group #1 (or do 6 different duets that all are released as singles, including one with Kendrick, and 1 with the country singer Chris Stapleton, etc.)

I am still of the opinion that Honeymoon is a complete dissertation about celebrity and fame itself.
And the inner battle of Elizabeth vs. Lana as witness Elizabeth on a Hollywood tour bus going to see the homes of the stars with Lana Del Rey being one of the
stars whose home will be looked at.
 
And how a younger starlet wanted all that fame had to offer, and the world seen as Elvis and Marilyn is not all it is or was cracked up to be
 
And how as our heroine ages, the realization that it's a Faustian battle with the devil and time to get off the Yellow Brick road
 
but with a twist. and a stern warning to the press and to the ones that won't let her grow old gracefully, that she will not succumb and she will not be the people Elvis and Marilyn, and the Beatles' John Lennon ended up in real life, all the others (a short actual career as opposed to a long life)
 
Honeymoon
Music to watch Boys to  Stated before, repeated, boys=musicians in music terms
Terence
God Knows I tried
 
High by the beach  where straight out, it conveys the evilness of 24/7/365 celebrity and Lana straight out says what she wants to do
Freak now self-evident after High by the beach
 
Art Deco  (it goes without saying)
 
Burnt Norton (read the words, once again that theme of "YOU CAN'T GO HOME AGAIN" nor will she, and to say it should have been
or will be another Lizzie or another Born to die, negates all the meaning of everything she is saying in the first place
 
Religion channels Leonard Cohen which not only her love of Leonard, but symbolicly, Leonard is quite important as he didn't flame out, but is now in his 80s and alive and relevant to today, not a voice of the past, not living off his own "Born to Die/Video Games"
 
Salvatore I will keep repeating is Elizabeth/Lana the Billboard Trailblazer who is  walking so far ahead, she occasionally (picture a Boardwalk on a hot endless summer day with a soft ice cream cone, and just when someone might have thought they caught up
with her, only to have her miles ahead, looking back and winking that to be all the way back there is not where she is, and that the only way to keep up (while she is lapping up the competition, pun intended if lap=lick soft ice cream) is to keep moving forward into time present and not go into time past to get to time future
 
24 is saying literally there are only 24 hours in a day and there is not time enough to do the things SHE wants to do,if she were to only do the things OTHERS berate her for not doing (and that includes she wants her own time to be "High by the beach" she loves, and has traveled 3000 plus miles from NY to California to see the other side of the water (Santa Monica/Mailbu) she was on at the start (Brooklyn's Coney Island)
(as Born to Die/Paradise/Ultraviolence/Honeymoon are all chapters in a story using old Americana Route 66 type Road trips getting there
 
Blackest Day has a triple meaning the most important being Lana will go on, but on her own terms, and reiterating not what people want but what SHE herself wants, and she will give the people what SHE wants to give them, but not consume and give up her life to please others because the girl is now a mature woman who sees that giving what others want, does nothing but (and this is a direct call out as is the other references in this album to both the media, and the haters that have tried to take her down and failed, and she no longer will even attempt to appease the negativity, so (as in Salvatore, that is all in the past, and the past is gone...as the trailblazer goes forth
on the Boardwalk of life and the only way for anyone who wants to follow is, to just keep following
 
and for those that don't get it
Don't let me be misunderstood, is the final word saying you just heard every word, and if you don't get it, start again listen, in a continuous loop
 
until the next chapter is written (there are no eras, only chapters in a never ending story of a life
(regrets, I've had a few, but then again too few to mention (Elvis & Sinatra and Sid Vicious sang in "My Way"
 
(and this played out while the person whose career most is like hers, David Bowie, name change, persona change, never listening always trailblazing, died not a rock stars death, but an average, ordinary common person run of the mill death from something millions and millions people die from) and knowing his time was running short, but never stopping, never slowing down, never rushing to die by his own hand
and never flickering out
 
They couldn't have invented a more perfect award for Lana than Billboard's Trailblazer Award. It so outshines any mundane up to the minute award that people forget in the next minute.
 
and

@@kristinaj- I shouldn't have brought up a negative on Bowie.
the last thing I will say on it- Bowie was always positive/proessional in the presence of suits and was quite uncomfortable in the one on one or one on small group with a fan in jeans
whereas, let's say- Elton John will rant and have tantrums aginst the press, the suits, the industry
but time permitting, from day one, has always been pleasant with fans (but not paparazzi).

Sorry but Bowie and Lana are two completely different artists. Both are good artists but they have little in common. Besides, how many times has Lana stated that 'Lana Del Rey' is not a persona? And how is Bowie's death in any way relevant in your comparison if Lana is still alive? If you really believe that Bowie is the closest equivalent to Lana's career then it would be more useful to go deeper into the analysis than just scratch the surface here
 
Otherwise, I like your analysis of the album, it certainly makes it more interesting but imho the album still lacks the drive and soul that Lana's previous albums had. It may be more coherent and may have a well thought out concept but Lana's strength lies in her emotionality and the intuitive quality of her music, and that is sadly what Honeymoon is lacking of

@@graham4anything
 
Ok, you're comparing Lana and Bowie solely based on their career choices and successes, I'll give you that, there are similarities to an extent.
 
Sorry, I don't want to turn this thread into a discussion on Bowie but I just have to tell you that you are very wrong about Bowie not being down to earth and considering himself above others. I've been a die hard Bowie fan for years and I have read everything that is out there about him and very rarely have I come across anyone saying that he was an asshole to his fans. The only time he may have been rude was when people started prying too much into his private life. Maybe you personally had a bad experience with him but that doesn't mean that he really was like that all the time. There have been so many accounts from people after his death and pretty much everyone has said what a kind, considerate and down to earth person he was. Even if he chose not to spend 50 minutes signing autographs to his fans it doesn't mean that he automatically considered himself above his fans.

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What do you think about The Blackest Day? But not lyrically or thematically, just the song itself. Do you like it? Any thoughts on idk the melody? Production?

@@kristinaj- I shouldn't have brought up a negative on Bowie.
the last thing I will say on it- Bowie was always positive/proessional in the presence of suits and was quite uncomfortable in the one on one or one on small group with a fan in jeans
whereas, let's say- Elton John will rant and have tantrums aginst the press, the suits, the industry
but time permitting, from day one, has always been pleasant with fans (but not paparazzi).

I am still of the opinion that Honeymoon is a complete dissertation about celebrity and fame itself.
And the inner battle of Elizabeth vs. Lana as witness Elizabeth on a Hollywood tour bus going to see the homes of the stars with Lana Del Rey being one of the
stars whose home will be looked at.
 
And how a younger starlet wanted all that fame had to offer, and the world seen as Elvis and Marilyn is not all it is or was cracked up to be
 
And how as our heroine ages, the realization that it's a Faustian battle with the devil and time to get off the Yellow Brick road
 
but with a twist. and a stern warning to the press and to the ones that won't let her grow old gracefully, that she will not succumb and she will not be the people Elvis and Marilyn, and the Beatles' John Lennon ended up in real life, all the others (a short actual career as opposed to a long life)
 
Honeymoon
Music to watch Boys to  Stated before, repeated, boys=musicians in music terms
Terence
God Knows I tried
 
High by the beach  where straight out, it conveys the evilness of 24/7/365 celebrity and Lana straight out says what she wants to do
Freak now self-evident after High by the beach
 
Art Deco  (it goes without saying)
 
Burnt Norton (read the words, once again that theme of "YOU CAN'T GO HOME AGAIN" nor will she, and to say it should have been
or will be another Lizzie or another Born to die, negates all the meaning of everything she is saying in the first place
 
Religion channels Leonard Cohen which not only her love of Leonard, but symbolicly, Leonard is quite important as he didn't flame out, but is now in his 80s and alive and relevant to today, not a voice of the past, not living off his own "Born to Die/Video Games"
 
Salvatore I will keep repeating is Elizabeth/Lana the Billboard Trailblazer who is  walking so far ahead, she occasionally (picture a Boardwalk on a hot endless summer day with a soft ice cream cone, and just when someone might have thought they caught up
with her, only to have her miles ahead, looking back and winking that to be all the way back there is not where she is, and that the only way to keep up (while she is lapping up the competition, pun intended if lap=lick soft ice cream) is to keep moving forward into time present and not go into time past to get to time future
 
24 is saying literally there are only 24 hours in a day and there is not time enough to do the things SHE wants to do,if she were to only do the things OTHERS berate her for not doing (and that includes she wants her own time to be "High by the beach" she loves, and has traveled 3000 plus miles from NY to California to see the other side of the water (Santa Monica/Mailbu) she was on at the start (Brooklyn's Coney Island)
(as Born to Die/Paradise/Ultraviolence/Honeymoon are all chapters in a story using old Americana Route 66 type Road trips getting there
 
Blackest Day has a triple meaning the most important being Lana will go on, but on her own terms, and reiterating not what people want but what SHE herself wants, and she will give the people what SHE wants to give them, but not consume and give up her life to please others because the girl is now a mature woman who sees that giving what others want, does nothing but (and this is a direct call out as is the other references in this album to both the media, and the haters that have tried to take her down and failed, and she no longer will even attempt to appease the negativity, so (as in Salvatore, that is all in the past, and the past is gone...as the trailblazer goes forth
on the Boardwalk of life and the only way for anyone who wants to follow is, to just keep following
 
and for those that don't get it
Don't let me be misunderstood, is the final word saying you just heard every word, and if you don't get it, start again listen, in a continuous loop
 
until the next chapter is written (there are no eras, only chapters in a never ending story of a life
(regrets, I've had a few, but then again too few to mention (Elvis & Sinatra and Sid Vicious sang in "My Way"
 
(and this played out while the person whose career most is like hers, David Bowie, name change, persona change, never listening always trailblazing, died not a rock stars death, but an average, ordinary common person run of the mill death from something millions and millions people die from) and knowing his time was running short, but never stopping, never slowing down, never rushing to die by his own hand
and never flickering out
 
They couldn't have invented a more perfect award for Lana than Billboard's Trailblazer Award. It so outshines any mundane up to the minute award that people forget in the next minute.
 
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