Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread

[FallingCherry 7,731]

if we're talking theoretical though, would y'all prefer an 11/12 track album or something longer like LfL had 16 (should've been 18)?

I prefer an 11 tracks COHERENT album than a 16 tracks album that has a messy cohesion.

[heroindealer 8,124]

Wtf G&m vanished from Tidal too

[Terrence Loves Me 71,703]

Sorry but why would u want a short tracklist, the pretencious jumped OUT. The more tracks on an album the better. The only problem is it can sometimes be hard to maintain cohesiveness *cough* lust for life *cough* - but hopefully she serves as many songs as possible,

give us a 20 track album!

[Flowerbomb 65,555]

Sorry but why would u want a short tracklist, the pretencious jumped OUT. The more tracks on an album the better. The only problem is it can sometimes be hard to maintain cohesiveness *cough* lust for life *cough* - but hopefully she serves as many songs as possible,

give us a 20 track album!

 

Kinda like UV, if she included the deluxe tracks with Flipside and Is This Happines all in one. Together that's like, 16 songs and ALL sounded cohesive.

[Cacciatore 19,346]

Sorry but why would u want a short tracklist, the pretencious jumped OUT. The more tracks on an album the better. The only problem is it can sometimes be hard to maintain cohesiveness *cough* lust for life *cough* - but hopefully she serves as many songs as possible,

give us a 20 track album!

 

I guess the metascore is more important than the music for some people 

[Flowerbomb 65,555]

Personally I would prefer more tracks just because I can't get enough of Lana's music. Plain and simple. 11 songs is okay, but I like longer albums regardless of who the artist is.

[Cacciatore 19,346]

Do you guys listen to a whole album when you wanna listen one song in particular? I don't care about cohesion because at the end of the day we all listen to her music on shuffle. Having a cohesive body of work is nice, yes, but it doesn't really matter if you'll end up listening to Venice Bitch and then Cherry and then Radio and then Religion and then Flipside  

[Off To The Races 2010 demo pls 19,335]

I hate when an album has a long tracklist, so I'm ok with 11 songs, It'd be cool if we get some bonus tracks too. Plus, I bet she made more +6mins songs 

[salvatore 21,763]

I prefer an 11 tracks COHERENT album than a 16 tracks album that has a messy cohesion.

 

true, i guess last year most people were just SO excited for new music (myself included) 16-18 songs sounded ethereal, not really taking into account so many would age, be filler from the jump, or arguable as to their quality (BPBP); if Lana wanted to give us 10-12 tracks but each of them are incredible (like melodrama) we're well fed for years

 

melodrama sounds fresh, innovative, and gorgeous to this day...if Lana pulls that out with NFR then we're in our bag for a great 2yrs

[Thunder Revenant 20,694]

Sone people prefer quality over quantity. A great short record is better than a long one with lots of fillers or forgetable songs. Nothing to do with beibg pretentious, just not being greedy.

[Nobody 21,298]

I'm excited for this album but the thought of the MGK collab is always in the back of my mind and it makes me anxious 

[BeautifulAnywhere 5,394]

I'm excited for this album but the thought of the MGK collab is always in the back of my mind and it makes me anxious

I had forgotten oh my God..... I’d rather have another Abel collab! We could have FJM & we get this

[salvatore 21,763]

Sone people prefer quality over quantity. A great short record is better than a long one with lots of fillers or forgetable songs. Nothing to do with beibg pretentious, just not being greedy.

 

mte. there are definitely people that care about a metacritic score but let's not act like her shorter records are the most praised when her longest and most filler-heavy album has the highest metacritic score in her career. LfL had tracks that needed more work (Cherry, Coachella, Summer Bummer, the political tracks' lyricism) and some that were straight filler garbage or vocal lowlights (IMF & White Mustang). 

 

if lana gives 11 tracks with the same quality as Venice Bitch & MAC (which HtD is easily on MAC level, just gotta hear production) then we're set.

 

some of y'all say you want another 16-18 track album while you haven't listened to 6-10/16 tracks in half a year anyways while you looped the entirety UV last week, make it make sense

[salvatore 21,763]

Do you guys listen to a whole album when you wanna listen one song in particular? I don't care about cohesion because at the end of the day we all listen to her music on shuffle. Having a cohesive body of work is nice, yes, but it doesn't really matter if you'll end up listening to Venice Bitch and then Cherry and then Radio and then Religion and then Flipside

 

for the most part yeah, i have a playlist that sequences highlights from every album to tell a story to me that i listen to from time to time, but since her music has always been (up until LfL) thematic and cohesive on a per album basis I rarely shuffled her entire discography. any mood i was in usually fit BtD, AKA, UV, or HM and i'd be able to listen to the entire album without caring- cause it carried that emotion throughout the tracklist while still switching up sounds or production; with LfL i can't be in a sadder mood and wait for 5-6 tracks just to hit that section of the album..it ain't worth the wait

 

GBA and World at War are decent songs, but I'll only ever listen to them if they happen to pop up on a shuffle or autoplay; I'll never be in a "mood" to listen to IMF or Coachella like I'd be in a relaxed, calm state for all of Honeymoon

[Surf Noir 189,197]

Idk about you guys but I think Lana is perfectly capable of bringing quantity and quality, she's done it before with Born To Die and Ultraviolence.

[Flowerbomb 65,555]

Idk about you guys but I think Lana is perfectly capable of bringing quantity and quality, she's done it before with Born To Die and Ultraviolence.

 

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[salvatore 21,763]

Idk about you guys but I think Lana is perfectly capable of bringing quantity and quality, she's done it before with Born To Die and Ultraviolence.

 

to be fair BtD & UV were both 12/11 tracks long before deluxe- and some of the songs gained with each DLX addition aren't remotely highlights- besides that after having to trudge through LfL countless amounts of time I don't trust her indecisive ass with longer tracklists

[SlowGinFizzzz 15,309]

Ideally we'd get a long album that's still cohesive and doesn't have fillers, it's not like those two criteria are necessarily mutually exclusive. Alternatively I'd love her to go the Ultraviolence route again – release an 11-track album that is one body of art and make four or five extra songs available for the fans (bonus tracks etc.), but unfortunately Lana doesn't seem to be a fan of deluxe editions (anymore).

 

The big problem I have with the "quality > quantity" argument is that not everyone defines a good or bad track the same way. Everybody has a different taste, so the song that one person might consider the absolute high point of an album might be one that someone else usually skips. That's why, if I had to choose between a short, cohesive album and a longer, less cohesive one, I'd probably go for the latter. There's nothing stopping you from making a ten-track playlist of your personal favourites for whenever you want a shorter listening experience. Because let's be honest, there are hardly any albums out there that don't have at least one song you don't really like.

 

For me, personally, the main issue with Lust For Life isn't that it's an incohesive, "messy" album (although that's definitely a problem, too), but that the material in general wasn't up to her usual standard. That's why I find it hard to even make a short playlist that I would enjoy listening to on a regular basis – the songs are just not as good as they could (should) be.

 

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. Don't be gay, stream Born To Die today.

[Surf Noir 189,197]

I'll be happy whether it's a long album or a shorter one, I just hope they are great songs, with no trap beats and perhaps... more vocal range..

[Fingertips 72,117]

I would rather have a longer tracklist to have the ability of making a playlist of the songs I DO enjoy listening to. What if she releases an 11 track album with five good songs? Then we would all be complaining she should have made an EP, when an 11 track record isn't lengthy.