malifruit 168 Posted September 23 2 minutes ago, DeadSeaOfMercury said: I already Loved like 4 Songs, But the album as a whole has really grown on me. Still not the biggest fan of Gorgeous or Gimmie OK we're on the same page then! I really struggle with the instrumentals on both of those songs. Gorgeous has this weird squeaky sound that repeats throughout the whole thing which makes it unlistenable to me, and Gimme Gimme similarly is just really repetitive and "sharp" (I don't know how else to put it). I see why people like both but I just can't do it... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Make me your Dream Life 87,780 Posted September 23 I don't mean to sound condescending, but I wonder if she'll actually use this flopping as a learning experience to do better. so far it's been observed that: - doesn't matter if you're popular, u can fall out of everyone's graces. being popular for the sake of being popular doesn't interest anyone anymore. - she needs to cultivate an actual fanbase. she doesn't have anyone to really sing to. other stars have tracks where they interact w their fans, she seems to being singing to no one besides her baby and maybe man? dk - stop working w dr luke. no way around that. better to try and find a new way than lose everyone's respect for you as barely an artist anyway. - she can inspire or sing more about ideals, but it won't matter if her walk isn't talking the same. - needs to dig a bit deeper and actually be more open and willing to be truly vulnerable w her music. at least experiment. it's ironic bc she does (unpopular opinion) does have a beautiful unique voice, excellent head tones, strong emotional singing and seductive singing, but she doesn't know what to really sing about at least effectively to communicate that. she's physically beautiful, but but the tone deafness at times, or overcompensating/ overacting of this persona's just off putting, or comes off as veiled arrogance. that or she has a thing for degradation, but then if it's that leave us and your career out of it. sexual appeal? yeah sure. but there are other ways of being attractive. it just seems a bit dated w the way she goes about it. a lot's changed, and really, that's hardly enough these days. actually live out your music, collaborate. experiment again again and again. she's a celebrity, but she doesn't really have a fanbase that'll act as some kind of social capital to really validate whether or not she's likable. if she actually gave some kind of care to these, she's got all these problems to really solve and put in her music. if she actually cared enough to anyway. she can continue to sink and change nothing, or she can actually transform and do something about it. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coney Island King 26,002 Posted September 23 I don’t care what she writes about, some of her catchiest songs are about nothing, i just think she needs to work with some better producers and freshen up her sound a bit. It’s tired. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalvaWHORE 34,006 Posted September 23 Its a fun album tho, but she needs new producers and stick to her honest writing style. idk what yall feels but Katy might not be the best lyricist and her songwriting is nothing too deep or like next level poet or something but she has been always very "her" in the past works, like when u listen to hits like Hot n Cold, Firework, california gurls, she has always been fun, silly, dumb and never shy away about it these songs are so "katy perry" coded, thats why we love her, after witness she sounds like shes trying to be anyone else but Katy herself. Best tracks in 143 are Wonder and All The Love - which sound the most "Katy" in this album tbh 3 Quote @WHORE OF TROPICO ⇨ @SALVAWHORE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speed Driving Coconuts 675 Posted September 23 Honestly, it is kinda baffling how it got such low scores from critics if it's only based on the actual album quality. It is mid at worst, there is nothing offensive about it sonically. Most scores I assume are driven by the discourse about the album's background rather than the music itself. It is mid but scoring it 30+ makes it seem as if she released completely unlistenable songs (which she didn't, they were just stale at worst). She just needs to work with new people. With 143, at least now she knows that Dr. Luke does not hold the answer as to how she can rekindle her pop sensibilities. I think she should work with Zedd and Bonnie McKee for the next album if she really wants to still play with the pop sound while maintaining the kitsch of her past works (with Bonnie) while also updating her sound (with Zedd).I also think she needs to improve her parasocial game more since she cant really rely on the GP anymore. And with how ruthless a lot of the internet stans are with her, as much of a problem parasocial relationships are in stan culture, she needs to kinda like fight fire with fire and give more incentives why being a Katycat is worth it in 2024. While I don't think 143 is bad (I even have some songs on repeat), it really wasn't worth it to experience all of this for such an album. Hopefully she's able to navigate this era better than she did when Witness bombed a few years ago. At least Brazil seems to be living for her, so there's that. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlottexseax 7,943 Posted September 23 did yall read this im howling... 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blameitonme 15,673 Posted September 23 143 hate up and down the timeline across every social media, criticism from everyone and their mother oh it’s bad for her 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
domandapiano 12,099 Posted September 23 I just can’t imagine playing any song from this record a second time. It’s true it’s not a laughable train wreck of an album, at least in terms of the music, but it is painfully, painfully boring and devoid of any real point of view. Not a single moment of any of the songs lifted my spirit or perked my ears up. Lifetimes and Wonder are the closest we get to something good and even they feel like they would be filler on a good pop record. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadSeaOfMercury 22,939 Posted September 23 I still don’t believe Katy would purposely work with someone she thought was a rapist - especially since she wasn’t contractually obligated to do so at this point. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Embach 42,303 Posted September 23 On 6/6/2024 at 10:23 PM, Veinsineon said: Apparently her secret listening parties have been snatching the public bald. Keen for KP6 I wonder if they listened to the same album that got 34 Metacritics score 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lana Del Dufrene 10,635 Posted September 23 P.s i love katy but the new album (save for nirvana) is bad. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Embach 42,303 Posted September 23 2 hours ago, Charlottexseax said: did yall read this im howling... Wtf is this I'm cackling it's giving "fanfic meets conspiracy theory" 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speed Driving Coconuts 675 Posted September 23 39 minutes ago, DemonMic2003 said: P.s i love katy but the new album (save for nirvana) is bad. God it's been a while since I've seen this mouthy twink on my youtube feed (clicking don't recommend channel works wonders). Not really a welcome sight seeing him again, on a Katy thread nevertheless. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Come With Me 3,329 Posted September 23 5 hours ago, DemonMic2003 said: P.s i love katy but the new album (save for nirvana) is bad. Oh no, not this self-absorbed nasty dumbass. I get that people may not like the album but he just has no respect towards anyone 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lana Del Dufrene 10,635 Posted September 23 Just now, Come With Me said: Oh no, not this self-absorbed nasty dumbass. I get that people may not like the album but he just has no respect towards anyone 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speed Driving Coconuts 675 Posted September 24 5 hours ago, Come With Me said: Oh no, not this self-absorbed nasty dumbass. I get that people may not like the album but he just has no respect towards anyone 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadSeaOfMercury 22,939 Posted September 24 I Love You More - Digital Album with Bonus Tracks Available Now! https://shop.katyperry.com/products/143-i-love-you-more-digital-album EDIT: Literally once I disconnected my iPhone from the iMac the power went out, I being a dumbass for a split second was like I GOT A VIRUS FROM KATY PERRY?!? 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coney Island King 26,002 Posted September 24 16 hours ago, DemonMic2003 said: P.s i love katy but the new album (save for nirvana) is bad. “She sold a blackface shoe” 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furor Poeticus 16,351 Posted September 24 The reviews from Pitchfork and Fantano are here 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lana Del Dufrene 10,635 Posted September 24 KATY WE WERE ROOTING FOR YOU WE WERE ALL ROOTING FOR YOU HOW DARE YOU. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites