Lasso - Pre-Pre-Release Thread

[barttttender 4,818]

1 minute ago, Future Jazz said:

i'm definitely not suggesting quitting or giving up, rather putting out the stuff that's been in the making for 4 years and that was said to be brilliant by Jack. i'm not indifferent to this stuff being scrapped forever. as i said, i know the final result will be great, i just think the stuff that's getting shelved was likely to be great too and that "half-baked" or "half-cooked" isn't quite the right word to describe something that had been in the making for 4 years

if she's not sure where it's going and wants to change the direction, which is what she said a couple of days ago, i think it's unrealistic to think it's coming within the next 12 months. she made it clear she isn't sure where it's going, which means most of the songs aren't written yet, then they're going to get reworked, they'll have to master the whole thing, and then there's the usual 4-5 months of pressing vinyls. take ocean blvd, it took six months between the time the last song on it was recorded and the time it came out

given what she said the other day (not knowing where it was even going), i don't think it can come out before at least september 2025, so yeah to be honest i kind of wish she had just put out whatever was already ready a couple of months ago. that's only my opinion though, and i'm sure the album will be great in any case !

 

She's not ready to put it out and that's that. She doesn't owe us anything - it's a privilege to get it when we get it.

 

doesn't matter how long it's been in the making. Especially when she's already dropped three albums this decade

[Future Jazz 9,135]

2 minutes ago, barttttender said:

 

She's not ready to put it out and that's that. She doesn't owe us anything - it's a privilege to get it when we get it.

 

doesn't matter how long it's been in the making. Especially when she's already dropped three albums this decade

i'm not saying she owes us anything. there's a difference between wanting to force her to release stuff or whatever and saying i think it would've been a good idea to put out what she had and what she and her collaborators were confident in, instead of mostly scrapping it. i don't really mind the delay, although i think we must be realistic about it not coming in the next 12 months, but i'm quite sad stuff like henry come on is getting scrapped, that's it. and once more, that's just my opinion, so this tone you have is very much unasked for

 

[heroindealer 10,924]

if she’s really about to scrap the country idea and nikki lane and turn it into sumn more lana-esque, southern gothic and dark then I’m definitely willing to wait 

[barttttender 4,818]

1 hour ago, Future Jazz said:

i'm not saying she owes us anything. there's a difference between wanting to force her to release stuff or whatever and saying i think it would've been a good idea to put out what she had and what she and her collaborators were confident in, instead of mostly scrapping it. i don't really mind the delay, although i think we must be realistic about it not coming in the next 12 months, but i'm quite sad stuff like henry come on is getting scrapped, that's it. and once more, that's just my opinion, so this tone you have is very much unasked for

 

 

But she's not 'scrapping it'. She's switching up the style and production.

 

" instead of mostly scrapping it" - source?

"'I''m quite sad stuff like henry come on is getting scrapped" - source?

 

I'm honestly not using any tone aside from 'chill, girl' and 'no one is scrapping the songs'. She's not happy with the material yet, but she's working on it. Don't worry about Henry. 

 

[Cru3lW0rld 617]

1 hour ago, Future Jazz said:

i'm not saying she owes us anything. there's a difference between wanting to force her to release stuff or whatever and saying i think it would've been a good idea to put out what she had and what she and her collaborators were confident in, instead of mostly scrapping it. i don't really mind the delay, although i think we must be realistic about it not coming in the next 12 months, but i'm quite sad stuff like henry come on is getting scrapped, that's it. and once more, that's just my opinion, so this tone you have is very much unasked for

 

Did she actually wanted to release say yes to heaven or she was forced?

 

[ChaoticLipster 24,535]

This album will come out in spring or summer most likely, no way she’ll wait till 2026. Lana doesn’t like to sit on things too long if she feels it’s ready, otherwise she’ll start having doubts. 

[lanology 229]

back here for the first time since the July 30th incident…

[Future Jazz 9,135]

1 hour ago, barttttender said:

 

But she's not 'scrapping it'. She's switching up the style and production.

 

" instead of mostly scrapping it" - source?

"'I''m quite sad stuff like henry come on is getting scrapped" - source?

 

I'm honestly not using any tone aside from 'chill, girl' and 'no one is scrapping the songs'. She's not happy with the material yet, but she's working on it. Don't worry about Henry. 

 

if she had what was almost a full album in February (which i'm guessing is true, since she announced it which means it was nearing completion, and since she said it had been in the making for 4 years), and if she doesn't like it anymore, it seems to me she's going to get rid of most of what she had. she's definitely going to keep some songs but scrap some others to replace them with others.

i agree it's not exactly clear to what extent she's just going to rework the songs she already has, but the way she worded stuff the other day makes me think that she doesn't even know in which direction she wants to go yet, so i think she has the intention to write completely new stuff, which means that part or most of what was intended for release originally is indeed getting scrapped.

it's also what happened with lust for life and blue banisters whose final versions aren't technically adored by the fandom. i'd say there's a lot of discussion about the original lust for life and the original rock candy sweet, which she ended up mostly scrapping in favor of something that isn't deemed her greatest work. so i'm excited for southern gothic but i don't think we should take it for granted that any reworking she does is necessarily for the better. i'm happy for the majority of people who are happy we're not getting a country album though

and i know you might not mean it like that but imo it's already quite unpleasant to say stuff like "source?"

[Embach 40,266]

I'm 99.99% sure that the original Blue Banisters/Rock Candy Sweet was just the same, minus the Drew Erickson songs but there were more unreleased songs (like Wild One, Fine China, also the I Can Fly soundtrack lol). 

 

I'm sure that the changes in Lasso are just directed towards Southern Gothic sound.

[Vertimus 9,544]

I think we've been lassoed. Again. 

 

Whatever results, it seems will be another compromised LDR album. Except for Honeymoon and perhaps NFR!, hasn't every LDR been compromised, ending up as a sort of jumble of the original conception? 

 

We know she didn't have full control over BTD, we know Paradise resulted from the abandoned Tropico, we know UV was considerably reworked and reconceived, as was LFL to an even greater extent. So was what became Blue Banisters, which was announced under another title, and then 4-6 songs were reportedly abandoned, with the older already-leaked material replacing it.

 

I'm not sure about CTOCC, but I know Lana was hesitant about releasing it as it was in terms of production and arrangements.   

 

So that leaves Honeymoon and Ocean Boulevard, and now Lasso also going through a reconception, likely with an unknown number of songs dropped. 

 

Of course, I want Lana to be happy with whatever she releases, but it's the constant announcing of dates, conceptions, and album titles and then all the delays and changes that bites for Stans and fans.

 

It's redundant to have to say so. I think it alienates and exhausts fans in the long run. All she and her team have to do is keep mum until the details and facts about the forthcoming album are absolutely confirmed--until vinyl is being pressed. 

 

[sierramadre 481]

I really think sonically this record is about to be a lot like Text Book. not aggressively country, but definitely leans in that direction. a bit experimental while still having moments that sound like classic Americana, dark tone, odd percussion, pretty subtle but more going on than just piano or guitar. it has the same unhinged energy that she’s been giving off lately lmao. and the vocal style seems to be how she likes to sing now

[barttttender 4,818]

1 hour ago, Future Jazz said:

if she had what was almost a full album in February (which i'm guessing is true, since she announced it which means it was nearing completion, and since she said it had been in the making for 4 years), and if she doesn't like it anymore, it seems to me she's going to get rid of most of what she had. she's definitely going to keep some songs but scrap some others to replace them with others.

i agree it's not exactly clear to what extent she's just going to rework the songs she already has, but the way she worded stuff the other day makes me think that she doesn't even know in which direction she wants to go yet, so i think she has the intention to write completely new stuff, which means that part or most of what was intended for release originally is indeed getting scrapped.

it's also what happened with lust for life and blue banisters whose final versions aren't technically adored by the fandom. i'd say there's a lot of discussion about the original lust for life and the original rock candy sweet, which she ended up mostly scrapping in favor of something that isn't deemed her greatest work. so i'm excited for southern gothic but i don't think we should take it for granted that any reworking she does is necessarily for the better. i'm happy for the majority of people who are happy we're not getting a country album though

and i know you might not mean it like that but imo it's already quite unpleasant to say stuff like "source?"

 

 

Well, I mean you were (already) complaining about songs getting scrapped, so was just setting you straight.

 

No need to get confrontational. In my previous message, I literally blew you a kiss, but waiving a white flag once more. We're just chattin'. Sheesh.

[hotshot2am 18,778]

On 10/22/2024 at 8:45 PM, hotshot2am said:

Seems they are possibly preparing to drop clothing merch but so far nothing music related 

 

https://lanadelreyusstore.com/products/lana-chemtrails-over-the-country-club-denim-jacket

 

Chemtrails jacket, not sure if this is new or not. I'm not familiar with Chemtrails merch.

 

Also not really Lasso related but posting here because I posted about the jacket being added.

[Lustformoney 41,422]

4 minutes ago, hotshot2am said:

 

https://lanadelreyusstore.com/products/lana-chemtrails-over-the-country-club-denim-jacket

 

Chemtrails jacket, not sure if this is new or not. I'm not familiar with Chemtrails merch.

 

Also not really Lasso related but posting here because I posted about the jacket being added.

Not a single person on this planet asked for a chemtrails jacket restock 

[Future Jazz 9,135]

1 hour ago, barttttender said:

 

 

Well, I mean you were (already) complaining about songs getting scrapped, so was just setting you straight.

 

No need to get confrontational. In my previous message, I literally blew you a kiss, but waiving a white flag once more. We're just chattin'. Sheesh.

yes, as i had every right to. songs are getting scrapped, i’m not happy about it because i was interested in them and they were done and announced. i don’t know how that can be controversial. just because lana makes a choice doesn’t mean everybody has to be 100% happy about it, especially when such choices have led to disappointment in the past. i’m not forcing anyone to be unhappy about her choice, as i said, i’m happy for the vast majority who’s happy she’s scrapping the country stuff.

 

i’m not getting confrontational, you’re twisting it. you’re telling me things like “source?”, “sheesh.”, “let’s chill.”, and it should be nice and okay because you blew me a kiss? i don’t need to be “set straight” either. i don’t care to be spoken to like that, so if you have a problem with me addressing it, you should simply stop using those phrases which are just condescending.

[Future Jazz 9,135]

2 hours ago, Embach said:

I'm 99.99% sure that the original Blue Banisters/Rock Candy Sweet was just the same, minus the Drew Erickson songs but there were more unreleased songs (like Wild One, Fine China, also the I Can Fly soundtrack lol). 

 

I'm sure that the changes in Lasso are just directed towards Southern Gothic sound.

if i remember correctly, black out zone has said she scrapped many piano ballads that were intended for the record in like may-june 2021