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On 10/7/2022 at 12:25 PM, Enchanted Mansion said:

Don't kill me but fuck I don't like Taylor, and I don't understand this collaboration :noparty:. It doesn't make sense unless Lana wants more success. Taylor is bland and uninspiring. I'm not thrilled, I hope it won't drag her down musically. 

 

 Taylor is nothingness, nothing happens. She can do better :toofunny:.

 

this brings an interesting conversation; I think [hopefully] that Taylor has realized that now she is on top of the world (and literally has been since the 1989 era), the next stop in her career is to be the opposite of what you said: nothing, nothingness. With the clear critical success and acclaim from the folk-more double era and re-tuning RED and Fearless to be more mature with the TV versions, the days of "lets make sure every song can be a radio hit on this album" (something she has herself said on how she arranges tracklists in other words) are coming to an end, and her legacy has to start being more serious, especially when so much of the second half of her legacy (post 1989 - pre-Lover) has been getting in "beef" with people such as... Kim Kardashian :um2:. Working with new people such as Aaron Dessner brought a refreshing side of her music abilities; I'm hopeful this new record will continue that change of maturity and legacy building 

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13 hours ago, TRENCH said:

 

this brings an interesting conversation; I think [hopefully] that Taylor has realized that now she is on top of the world (and literally has been since the 1989 era), the next stop in her career is to be the opposite of what you said: nothing, nothingness. With the clear critical success and acclaim from the folk-more double era and re-tuning RED and Fearless to be more mature with the TV versions, the days of "lets make sure every song can be a radio hit on this album" (something she has herself said on how she arranges tracklists in other words) are coming to an end, and her legacy has to start being more serious, especially when so much of the second half of her legacy (post 1989 - pre-Lover) has been getting in "beef" with people such as... Kim Kardashian :um2:. Working with new people such as Aaron Dessner brought a refreshing side of her music abilities; I'm hopeful this new record will continue that change of maturity and legacy building 

 

It's true that I haven't heard anything from Taylor, I'm judging because she doesn't inspire me, but maybe her last records (rather praised by the press and fans) are good and more accomplished. To do with Lana, I agree with your message.

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On 10/8/2022 at 9:55 PM, slang said:

 

I mean it's a challenge, but hopefully Taylor isn't going to "Cat Power" her, and with Antonoff having a good working relationship with both, I think that's unlikely. It's an interesting vindication piece for LDR to be in the limelight with pop's chief it-girl.  It will be interesting to see whether LDR's egalitarian-esque feature-production-preferences on her own turf transfers over when on Taylor's home turf. The Grande/Cyrus/Rey thing, while not a capstone of modern music, at least worked out ok. It also occurs to me that a May Jailer vs. Taylor Swift sonic "fight" would be a really interesting thing to try to pull off (and witness), but I'd give that about a probability of zero.

 

Admittedly, it will be interesting to see how this all unfolds, and what Lana will get out of this collaboration. Indeed, I think their debut (folk country) featuring would have been interesting.

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probably not an unpopular opinion, but

 

it bothers me how literally female artist who does anything slightly alternative is automatically said to have “lana del rey vibes”, like, do the people who say this even listen to lana? some random girl making a rock song with electric guitars doesn’t automatically make her a “lana del rey vibe”

but i don’t mean this as any shade towards alternative female singers, it’s just bothersome to me that people can’t think of anything else to say besides “lana del rey vibes” just because a female artist isn’t making bubblegum pop

 

also, semi-related, it bugs me a lot to see people in the comment sections of mazzy star videos hate on lana del rey and accuse her of copying them, it’s so inaccurate, i do not understand the comparison at all, they are barely alike! and i gurantee you that if lana really did take inspiration from mazzy star/hope sandoval, she would be open about it, like she is with all of the artist she’s inspired by…


𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒷𝑜𝒶𝓇𝒹𝓌𝒶𝓁𝓀 𝓆𝓊𝑒𝑒𝓃𝓈 𝓇𝑜𝓁𝓁 𝒹𝒾𝒸𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒶𝓇𝒸𝒽𝒶𝓃𝑔𝑒𝓁𝓈 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓅𝒾𝓃𝓀 𝓈𝓁𝒾𝓅𝓈 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓈𝑜𝓊𝓁𝓈 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝑒𝓅𝒶𝓇𝓉𝑒𝒹

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On 10/7/2022 at 12:25 PM, Enchanted Mansion said:

Don't kill me but fuck I don't like Taylor, and I don't understand this collaboration :noparty:. It doesn't make sense unless Lana wants more success. Taylor is bland and uninspiring. I'm not thrilled, I hope it won't drag her down musically. 

 

I miss the time when Lana worked with interesting musicians, and I put The Weeknd in the pile. The 2 were commercially interesting with close universes. Taylor is nothingness, nothing happens. She can do better :toofunny:. I would still listen to the title because after all they may surprise me but I don't expect anything.

 

This is my opinion, don't take it as an offense because I respect your choices. You guys are lucky, your time is finally coming, you must be so happy.

 

I would have liked a duet between her and Marina. But business and business. :toofunny:

I don't like Taylor neither but what's not to get? Taylor is a fan, they both work closely with Jack, and both like country & pop music. If anything, the collaboration makes more sense than not. It's just Taylor's clean image that makes the pairing seem polarizing. All of that said I think the song will be good and it's just one song that probably won't even get single treatment,  not a country album with Nikki Lane tea.

3 minutes ago, Surf Noir said:

probably not an unpopular opinion, but

 

it bothers me how literally female artist who does anything slightly alternative is automatically said to have “lana del rey vibes”, like, do the people who say this even listen to lana? some random girl making a rock song with electric guitars doesn’t automatically make her a “lana del rey vibe”

but i don’t mean this as any shade towards alternative female singers, it’s just bothersome to me that people can’t think of anything else to say besides “lana del rey vibes” just because a female artist isn’t making bubblegum pop

 

also, semi-related, it bugs me a lot to see people in the comment sections of mazzy star videos hate on lana del rey and accuse her of copying them, it’s so inaccurate, i do not understand the comparison at all, they are barely alike! and i gurantee you that if lana really did take inspiration from mazzy star/hope sandoval, she would be open about it, like she is with all of the artist she’s inspired by…

That's just a testament to Lana's impact and relevance in our culture. She's the Queen of Alternative, comparisons will come naturally even if they're not really there.

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On 7/31/2017 at 2:15 AM, LanasPhilosophy said:

he architecture of the best american record

the city streets mistake or design

every now and then the stars aline

starline tours honeymoon

fly to the moon

be my undercover lover

my old man is a bad man

leaving my old man again

play my music watch you leave

he is why the thousands of girls love the way bill plays guitar

music to watch boys to playing my guitar only one of my toys

hundred doillar bill - inventor of electricty is on that bill

body electric

bill plays guitar 

bill is code for jim

the shapes of letters hold clues

jim is everything but jim jim is other

the other woman the other man

the jazz singer the cult leater
 

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as architecture says(BEST AMERICAN RECORD) ITS ALL FOR YOU just like video games

everything she does is for this 1 figure..... but this person is no person at all......... everything she does is for all of us ..... we're who shes singing too

we're lost but the map is at our fingertips....... we're overloaded with information that we lost our connection to the universe......

in nevada she sings "id rather know what god knows" pawn shop blues
she is stealing the world back..... shes standing up to the disease of humanity..... truely good people do not have the energy or time or will to do what lanas done......... lana is one of us with a big secret to share.... shes truely fearless which is why shes still going...... she has the universe on her side

video games

television heaven

blue light kissing

new kind of porno

fuck me hard in the pouring rain

take offf all your clothjes ... all my dresses with the tags still on them
little red party dress im a mess im crazy
you tell me that it was good to be crazy
your fucking crazy
id rather know what god knows
children of the bad revoution partying our only soution
boarding school got a problem lets solve it
beautiful people beautiful problems
john lennon can be mentioned no problem
but she had to remoive the names in get free.......... courtney love and kurt perhaps?????|
lana is making his death worth something.... taking the baton from courtney
hole's final song hapopy ending story "the race is lost the war is won the battle noiw has just begun"
the stevie nicks presence in all courtneys music..
the cameo on beautiful problems
the newest song by courtney called killer radio
obvious shes hinting hole is retired
decode it and finish the porno
hole and nirvana create the fetus
lana is giving bith
the fans need to mother it


i can make anyone beleive this..... anyone who is in love with lana will be able 2 understand and follow me..... any non lana fans will be blind ...... this is how we win the war and change the world and be our own gods.........
children of the bad revolution
little girl she was lost
now shes found everything and shes doing it for all of us please dont let her be misunderstood
nirvana and hole were step 1
a camouflaged metaphorical fetus
as all the album titles/pictures suggest

americas sweetheart 2004 was rleeased under courtney love not hole to prve to herself how real the magic is..
she was nearly destroyed
then she returned to hole and finished with the nobodys daughter record

because a 20 year period of music between 2 real lovers
camouflaged with drugs and murder theories and cynical old ppl
a select few can understand this truth and move it forward
lana + courtney + nirvana + you     embrace it...... each lana fan has a path to the truth
mine is so extreme that i feel i must present it
others may be in doubt but have strange things happen related to lana

endless summer tour was with courtney
courtneys celebrity skin album has song called boys on the radio with layered deep meanings
in your endless summer night ill be on the otherside is a line

now lanas songs mentioning radio relate perfectly it all related and they seem 2 be best friends

give me the benefit of the doubt and lets start a project

 

there is no such thing as mistakes...... thats why her baby dances UNDERNEARTH  her archtecture
she crafted her art as a place u can move out of.....
you cannot move out of it and look in unless your in love with it...... true love
a fake scientiist cannot access lanas art code

she is real
she has power
she is humanitys last hope?

 

i wanna be the whole worlds girl gramnma, tell me do u think thats wrong? her oldest live video is that
nirvanas silver  ---- gramma take me home gramma take me home

nirvanas music displays the opposite of the meaning of nirvana
courtney love latched onto him like a supernatural parasite
he was seduced by her just like i was sewduced by lana

he decided the magic is real and he wanted to do something worthwhile
something to throw her a curveball knowing she can survive anything
the process of her survival would be so public cuz how famous he was
if there was ever a noble death it was his
he had faith in her
without kurt and courtney

there would be no lana

thats a fact

 

 

On 5/12/2017 at 1:34 AM, LanasPhilosophy said:
Spoiler

 

when you take every line mentioning "fire" and put them together in order from first released to last

then take unreleased mentions of fire as sidenotes

you realize fire is a total metaphor for something else


when you do this for every thing in her music

you decode the web like the secrets of the universe

for example

cherry coke         serial killer
cherry knots          carmen

strawberries, cherries, angel kiss          summer wine
pepsi cola           pussy cola

roses in between my thighs      honeymoon

guns that blaze around you

fire that surrounds you

guns and roses       guns and roses UV
into the rose garden   burnt norton
fire causes burn
guns and fire  = gunfire
roses red like cherries
lips red cherries - black beauty

burnt turns to black
pussy symbolized by roses and cola taste
cherry cola linked to cherry knots
cherry knots tied with tongue in mouth
pussy tasted with tongue/mouth
mother heard me singing in the garden - i can fly
flowers symbolize fertility and red fruits symbolize her voice and words in general
the link to mouth, pussy and gunfure is the ultraviolent relationship
the symbol is fire burning her body in an act of love making
kinda like honey synbolizing sunlight therefore firey hotness and moon .. feminine cold   honey+moon comes after ultraviolet light join ina  rleationship
got your bible and gun --- cruel world

bible is words like cherries and cherry coke links words
to pussy
the end result after combining all these and way more =  shes presenting a message through the metaphor of giving birth to a philosophy
the code for philosophy is porno
|makes perfect sense to have lyrics about relationships that can be applied to the universe/molecules and everything in between
new kind of porno one that has yet been born-o - resistance
born to die album
all the steps between birth and death are the making of the porno
ultimately since birth and death are opposite like crest anbd trough of a wave
when the death arrives and her music catalogue is complete....

it will represent a new hidden modern form of buddhism invented by her or someone
it is camouflaged due to evil world conspiracy that will not allow a a list popstar to have a posititve influence
feet dont fail me now take me to the finish line
off to the races - lyrics about her man and symbolizing the giant metaphor to begin with life as the race
every step in the race breaks her heart thats why so many songs about heartbreak also thats just glue holding the metaphor together
blue jeans and new song blue skies
connecting pants to clouds
all my dresses with ther tags still on them fine china - clue that she doesnt actually wear the clothes she sings, proof of metaphor

all dressed up with nowhere to go ---- carmen and love
tying cherry knots from carmen is like hiding messages in her songs and getting dressed up with nowhere to go in particular
favourite sweater  little red party dress on, take off all of clothes, cant keep your hands off me or yuour pants on,
the clothing covers up the body

just like the cherry knots tying in her lyrics covers the true meaning of song
fine china   and fresh linen --- the fresh linen represents all clothing
the fina china links to without you to watch her fall just like fine china "im going down now"
tonnes of lyrics about going down
but only pllace she can really be going is to the finish line like born to die says
lets go get high   cruel world heroin references
if shes using flavour to describe her pussy like cola and uses cherry cola in serial killer
this means the die in born to die uses symbol of taste therefore candy in cruel world symbolized receiving her message "i love my candy"
lets go get high and so happy now that your gone......
she loves her candy just like the song love.... she feels young and in love and genuinely seems happy
shes tasting the candy of her message
the road was long had fun in meantime on heroin and guns
but those roads were only to one destination.... the road to the birth of the new kind of porno
just like video games says everything for you,   architecture says  all roads lead to you everything i say and do
the the road is long but leads to one thing
all roads lead to death but death leads to birth if you apply buddhist principles which she clearly references alot
so now all her music architecture dancing cigarettes driving through highway
all her lyrics mentioning cars + album covers takes it to a whole nother level
nevada lyrics and may jailer lyrics prefice this born to die journey perfectly giving it more credibility without overlapping the message which why different names crucial
houses of the holy lyrics give perfect support to my theory
party favours and cherry knots carmen
like to party and have fun - cruel world
swan song put your white tennies shoes on and follow me
put your shoes on and follow her down the road
white symbolizes clean slate fresh start
feet dont fail me now
if we follow her to the finish line we would say same thing
so following her leads to freedom after retirement
when all her songs are done it will be our swan song "defition final thing done before retirement"
so first song and video born to die confirms theres a race
off to the races track 2 puts emphasis on that point
racing down the roads, love video finally goes offroad and truck floats into sun
cruel world live edit changes lyric to "im so happy now in the sun"
sun = flames and violence like jim she sings of
hundred dollar bill about a hooker and first song mentioniung jim also mentions ultra violent swing
now national anthem money is the anthem of success
if her lyrics symbolize a large combined simple message using this song to link jim and bill is perfect
hundred dollar BILL  ... chasing paper last i heart in blue jeans
thousands of girls love the way bill plaqys guitat
music to watch boys to - playing guitar only one of my toys
its all a game to me anyway  - Alan Watts philosopher always stresses life as a game
lana vs alan and rey vs watts    same letters first name opposite meaning lastname  light vs electricity
now watching boys like a video game guitar as a toy
bill and jim are simply a metaphor for her lyrical puzzel
shes the only one playing guitar
the national anthem
money isnt really the anthem to success its just used to link the names bill and jim
just so happens ben franklin discoverer of electricity is on the american hundred dollar bill
watching boys like watching a video  ---- video games
without you ---- stolen images
national anthem      "image"ination   loves me cuz im playing on the radio
links the male figures bill and jim to without you song i have nothing without you
stolen images and playing on the radio linked to  terrence loves you
similar chorus to without you
talks about transmitting through the televiosion and all the lights on
in without you all the lights mean nothing without you
now this confirms that whoever she is singing to cannot hear her
now mabye this could all be about the true self vs the false ego
and she is singing to herself all along????

 

 

please note the above post was just off the top of my head with no thinking or looking up facts or editting....
just seeing if anyone here is on a similar path as me with lanas music

 

 

 

Unpopular opinion: This guy took so many fucking drugs that he actually managed to pierce the veil enough to discern some part of the "deep psychological universe" underlying Lana's work.

 

Don't do drugs, kids. There are safer methods that won't leave you completely mindbroken.

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On 10/9/2022 at 10:02 PM, loveyoulikeawoman said:

I don't like Blue Banisters all that much, I listened to it when it got released and kinda forgot about it after. I liked Chemtrails wayy better :ohmy:

I like some lyrics froms blue banisters (aka the most recent songs) but the production… not too much.

btw, I’m a COTCC stan tbh

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COTCC is her best album.

does blue banister have great lyrics? Yes – But in a few songs (text book, blue banisters and ww). Unfortunately, the production isn’t that good.

If cotcc had the same deepness (lyrics-wise) as these three songs, people would stan it soooo much more.

still, chemtrails is her best.

(no hate to NFR, which is the second best)

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On 10/10/2022 at 11:45 AM, Enchanted Mansion said:

 

It's true that I haven't heard anything from Taylor, I'm judging because she doesn't inspire me, but maybe her last records (rather praised by the press and fans) are good and more accomplished. To do with Lana, I agree with your message.

Listen to cardigan and willow!

i’m not a taylor fan or anything, but I do like (a lot!) some of her songs.

willow, wildest dreams and cardigan are really good. 
Btw, all of these songs are kinda lana-esque 

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I love that Lana has sung about domestic violence, substance abuse and death. It's what has made her unique, and I love her for sharing that experience with her listeners. As someone who relates, I find great solace in her music.

 

Also, Cola being about Harvey Weinstein is a big kiii. She really gave no fucks. She's a legend for that idc. One of her best songs too.

 

 

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