James19709 638 Posted July 1, 2015 I'm with you when it comes to constructive critique (instead of either loving something extremely or bashing it and all the people who ma like it), but ... I think it's quite reasonable to not judge a song based on two super short snippets and a live acapella of the first verse and then compare it with another short snippet. ________ I think JFK, AFFA, Starry Eyed, Hollywood and the Black Beauty demo are overrated. Everyone calls them "Untouchable" and thirsts for the album which would have contained them, but even though they are nice, I think if you listen to all of them one after another, they are quite forgetable and dull. Plus, if she would have released an album like this after Paradise, this wouldn't be any kind of positive style-development. I think Hollywood and JFK should've made Paradise, Starry Eyed needed a second verse, and Black Beauty is overrated in general imo. AFFA is way too similar to Ride to ever have been released imo, shouldn't have closed Paradise either, like I saw some people say. I'm glad we have all of them though. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HEARTCORE 18,971 Posted July 1, 2015 i can't stand that photoshoot where she has a bee in her lip, it makes me want to vomit 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CriesMarmalade 178 Posted July 1, 2015 Lana Del Rey announces follow-up to Honeymoon, entitled "Depression" I'm hoping for 'Divorce', 'Unlovable' or 'Forever Alone'. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewby 9,246 Posted July 1, 2015 Catch and Release is her best work okay, maybe not that far, but it's such a great song, even if the lyrics falter at time (I am a shark, beware of my bark? I'll eat you up like the center of a Tootsie Pop? ) you can't tack this onto the end of your post and expect this to not be addressed! the instrumental totally ruins the song for me because it's the sound of bubbles, random dinging and alarms. it makes me think of something MTV would've put on Liquid Television at 4 in the morning 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KillKillQueen 1,298 Posted July 1, 2015 I'm hoping for 'Divorce', 'Unlovable' or 'Forever Alone'. Alone Forever, Forever Alone 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lad 8,801 Posted July 1, 2015 I haven't listened to Hollywood in full more than 3 times. It bores me to death. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luckyonewithoutyou 1,929 Posted July 1, 2015 I haven't listened to Hollywood in full more than 3 times. It bores me to death. Same, the other four songs are fine, but Hollywood is absolutely boring sonically and lyrically. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theeternalstars 4,576 Posted July 1, 2015 i can't stand that photoshoot where she has a bee in her lip, it makes me want to vomit the video for the shoot on her personal youtube is so fucking terrifying - she looks horrifying and evil 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HEARTCORE 18,971 Posted July 1, 2015 also I wouldn't change the UV cover whatsoever...it evokes so much feeling and really suits the nature of the album to a tee. i dont understand the dislike for it, sure there were other absolutely STELLAR photos to choose from, but i feel that none of them would have been as iconic or suitable as the actual one. imo, they would have been best placed in the album booklet (a la the one for HBHBHB) 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CriesMarmalade 178 Posted July 1, 2015 also I wouldn't change the UV cover whatsoever...it evokes so much feeling and really suits the nature of the album to a tee. i dont understand the dislike for it, sure there were other absolutely STELLAR photos to choose from, but i feel that none of them would have been as iconic or suitable as the actual one. imo, they would have been best placed in the album booklet (a la the one for HBHBHB) It suits a couple of the songs really well (Brooklyn Baby, West Coast, Florida Kilos) in that it has this cool, laid back summer vibe, but the rest of them draw much more strongly from noir/jazz themes to which the cover doesn't do any justice. It's kinda weird hearing Lana sing about her diamonds and her pearls while having an image of her in shorts and a t-shirt. I feel like she was trying to prove her effortlessness while at the same time trying to be unapologetic about her trademark glamour in the lyrics. It's a weird combination to me. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valentino 885 Posted July 1, 2015 you can't tack this onto the end of your post and expect this to not be addressed! the instrumental totally ruins the song for me because it's the sound of bubbles, random dinging and alarms. it makes me think of something MTV would've put on Liquid Television at 4 in the morning It took me a really long time to like this song. The only thing I liked about it at the beginning was the sitar-like sound at the beginning, and then the verse started and a farting synth happened. The second part of the verse sounded like the world's most demented merry-go-round, and the chorus was kind of gross. After many repeated listenings, for whatever reason, I started to appreciate the psychedelic circus of sitar players. And now... I can even say that I like it. (I don't know what Liquid Television is so I can't appreciate this reference ) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James19709 638 Posted July 2, 2015 I have always LOVED the album version of Lolita 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James19709 638 Posted July 4, 2015 Serial Killer is hugely overrated 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hollywoodsdead 277 Posted July 4, 2015 When I first listened to Shades of cool I really didn't like it, even if Lana was so excited for that song. I ignored Radio for months then I listened again to and I fell in love. I don't like Noir, I don't know guess that it's for that screaming-chorus 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LolitaE 143 Posted July 4, 2015 I would really love an album, which is a combination of some of Lana's old unreleased songs, to be officially released, you know. That'd be awesome. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theeternalstars 4,576 Posted July 4, 2015 I don't like Noir, I don't know guess that it's for that screaming-chorus yeah, noir doesn't do anything for me personally. if i want to be screamed at, thx lana but I'll rather just go talk to my parents lmao 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Den 203 Posted July 5, 2015 I prefer Paradise Yayo over the AKA one 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TRENCH 15,450 Posted July 5, 2015 i like the Paradise Yayo but i just noticed how flat it feels. the AKA one sounds more "alive" 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoreleiLee 1,306 Posted July 5, 2015 I'm with you when it comes to constructive critique (instead of either loving something extremely or bashing it and all the people who ma like it), but ... I think it's quite reasonable to not judge a song based on two super short snippets and a live acapella of the first verse and then compare it with another short snippet. I offered my subjective opinion on what I heard in the snippet (actually I did't, but now I am forced to ), not judgement about the whole song which still doesn't exist in our collective consciousness. Also, Lana's music isn't an empirical science so that we should all obey to its established dogmas; everybody gets its own impression based on his or her personal experience or emotional condition. That snippet to me represents small window or a crack through which a dash of certain atmosphere sneaked, but I surely won't inscript in stone my opinion on something I don't have a single clue how it sounds in its completeness based on just a tiny patch. I don't prejudice, I just bring my casual surmise, which is a huge difference. But whatever, that debate is old already. :) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labionda 52 Posted July 6, 2015 I hated for a long time BTD, but more time passed I enjoyed it... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites