West Coast 45,897 Posted May 15, 2020 california is the most overrated song on NFR Β when Venice Bitch exists... ? Β I don't know why you guys are arguing as to which song is most overrated on NFR, when in actuality the album as a whole is overrated. But if I were to truly give an opinion I'd say that both songs are equally overrated.Β Β Some fans think 'California' is the most amazing song because they think it's about Barrie (which it might as well be for all I care). It's an alright song, I guess it's the most emotional on the album as far as vocal delivery goes, but on an album full of unnecessary musical outros that replaced bridges, the song weirdly lacks both. Choices. Β As for 'Venice Bitch' her fans with entry level taste in music somehow convinced themselves the song is revolutionary because it's like 10 minutes long, when also in reality the long/hazy musical outro basically beefs up what is weak song to begin with. I would've honestly think the song is amazing had said musical outro had actually been interesting to listen to, but it lacks structure and the guitar/bass riffs are too basic for me to care for like a whole 6 minutes. It's cute, but it's a skip. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urgirl 5,748 Posted May 15, 2020 Β Β As for 'Venice Bitch' her fans with entry level taste in music somehow convinced themselves the song is revolutionary because it's like 10 minutes long, when also in reality the long/hazy musical outro basically beefs up what is weak song to begin with. I would've honestly think the song is amazing had said musical outro had actually been interesting to listen to, but it lacks structure and the guitar/bass riffs are too basic for me to care for like a whole 6 minutes. It's cute, but it's a skip. Β Β I always thought the first two minutes were the weak part of Venice Bitch, i'm surprised you dislike the outro 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West Coast 45,897 Posted May 15, 2020 I always thought the first two minutes were the weak part of Venice Bitch, i'm surprised you dislike the outro Β It's just whatever to me I guess. I actually like the song before the outro kicks in (and also the "if you weren't mine I'd be jealous of your love"). Like I said I think it's cute song. But, while I'm into prog-rock and psychedelic rock, the song lacks structure it's almost too random and also there's something just plain and beige about it, but then again I feel this exact way about the whole damn NFR era. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mkultraviolence 5,832 Posted May 15, 2020 I Can Fly and Big Eyes are weak lyrically and melodically. the lyrics don't fit well with the melody, the flow is weird 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadesOfFool 20,224 Posted May 16, 2020 Lust for Life and Honeymoon are tied for her third best album. 1 Quote let's be real, all you bitches wanna look like me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West Coast 45,897 Posted May 17, 2020 'Sad Girl' is criminally underrated, the bridge:"I'm on fire baby, I'm on fire",Β ties with the guitar solo in 'Pretty When You Cry' as the emotional apex of the record in my honest opinion. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
violets 11,896 Posted May 18, 2020 not sure if this is rly unpopular but lana needs to stop having so many second thoughts. too many "demos" and v1's sound sooo much better than the final. e.g. freak like me bridge, YAIL intro... truly things that shouldve seen the light of day. i know her label and managers make her change a lot of things, its not only her, but i watched one of her recent interviews a couple nights ago and she talks about how she is alwaysΒ wanting to change things thats why having an album done 90 days (or 60 i lost memory) before release is so hard for her... but lanz,,, stick with ur original ideas more often pls<3Β Β i know MOST of us really love hearing demos and alt versions but more so often i find myself choosing to listen to those rather than the released or final versions.Β 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanilla Icy 29,602 Posted May 18, 2020 not sure if this is rly unpopular but lana needs to stop having so many second thoughts. too many "demos" and v1's sound sooo much better than the final. e.g. freak like me bridge, YAIL intro... truly things that shouldve seen the light of day. i know her label and managers make her change a lot of things, its not only her, but i watched one of her recent interviews a couple nights ago and she talks about how she is alwaysΒ wanting to change things thats why having an album done 90 days (or 60 i lost memory) before release is so hard for her... but lanz,,, stick with ur original ideas more often pls<3Β Β i know MOST of us really love hearing demos and alt versions but more so often i find myself choosing to listen to those rather than the released or final versions.Β exactly, almost every born to die demo is better than the final version of the songsΒ 7 Quote i love you, but you don't understand me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadesOfFool 20,224 Posted May 18, 2020 I want her to do a song where she really talks about the things sheβs seen in Hollywood. Sheβs hinted at a lot. When she talked about Hope Is A Dangerous Thing, she lowkey confirmed she had seen some fucked up shit regarding sexual abuse and the casting couch. And then I remember that interview where they asked her about Harvey Weinstein and she just awkwardly said βIβd say he was flirtatious...β then got real quiet. Β I hope this isnβt coming across as inappropriate but Iβd be curious to know hear (at least vaguely) what sheβs seen and gone thru. 9 Quote let's be real, all you bitches wanna look like me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 203,611 Posted May 18, 2020 I want her to do a song where she really talks about the things sheβs seen in Hollywood. Sheβs hinted at a lot. When she talked about Hope Is A Dangerous Thing, she lowkey confirmed she had seen some fucked up shit regarding sexual abuse and the casting couch. And then I remember that interview where they asked her about Harvey Weinstein and she just awkwardly said βIβd say he was flirtatious...β then got real quiet. Β I hope this isnβt coming across as inappropriate but Iβd be curious to know hear (at least vaguely) what sheβs seen and gone thru. Β i'm also someone who is curious about what happens in hollywood, i'ts no secret that it's a crazy place. as long as she doesn't get into trouble or danger, i'm here for lana talking more about it. i feel like she's one of the few celebrities that i trust aren't involved in any serious, fucked up shit. but then again she is a celebrity, who has had her controversies (harvey weinstein...) i like to give her the benefit of the doubt i guess.Β 4 Quote π ' π πΒ Β π π π§ πΒ Β πΒ Β π π π¦ πΒ Β π π π£ π π€ π₯ π π π€ β κ³ β’Μ©Μ©Ν β *Μ©Μ©Ν β§ΝΒ β§Ν *Μ©Μ©Ν βΒ ΝΝΒ Λ β β Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rorman Nockwell 56,977 Posted May 18, 2020 ^ I think Hope is as close as we're gonna get, for the foreseeable future. I can't imagine her spilling in any more detail than that.Β Β She seems to enjoy being cryptic, and I can't see it changing.Β 6 Quote ur legit gonna look the same stop buying oil of Olay face cream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13bitches 6,177 Posted May 18, 2020 I like Ride but part of me wishes theyβd gone with another vocal take. She sounds like a frog on it tbh 4 Quote If by not 'up to par' you mean distilling the worst elements that only kind of work in songs, sure. I could put a dictionary audiobook on shuffle and put it to an instrumental of old money and some of y'all would still be saying it's 50/50 lmfao. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WilshireBoulevard 5,421 Posted May 18, 2020 Whoops wrong thread 1 Quote locals only Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13bitches 6,177 Posted May 18, 2020 Wait WHAT 1 Quote If by not 'up to par' you mean distilling the worst elements that only kind of work in songs, sure. I could put a dictionary audiobook on shuffle and put it to an instrumental of old money and some of y'all would still be saying it's 50/50 lmfao. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadesOfFool 20,224 Posted May 19, 2020 I want WHF to sound like Groupie Love/West Coast/Love/Cherry/Cinnamon Girl....dreamy sexy fun songs Β Iβm sorry but I canβt listen to another Mariners Apartment Complex.... 6 Quote let's be real, all you bitches wanna look like me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VeniceBambi 1,304 Posted May 19, 2020 I don't want Lana to go back blonde. I prefer dark haired Lana or that soft red/ light brown color from btd era. dunno whats the hype with super blonde lana? she looks more unique and beautiful with dark hair or the btd color. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doll Harlow 12,369 Posted May 20, 2020 nvmΒ 0 Quote You call me lavender, you call me sunshine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West Coast 45,897 Posted May 20, 2020 I want WHF to sound like Groupie Love/West Coast/Love/Cherry/Cinnamon Girl....dreamy sexy fun songs Β Iβm sorry but I canβt listen to another Mariners Apartment Complex.... Β honestly same 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UltraviolenceBaby 5,014 Posted May 20, 2020 btd is overproducedΒ 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadesOfFool 20,224 Posted May 21, 2020 Sheβs dumb as a box of rocks for that IG bullshit and extremely tone deaf. 9 Quote let's be real, all you bitches wanna look like me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites