STAN WARS: 4th Quarter Album Releases - Who are you supporting? [POLL ADDED]

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@@Trash Magic shared this me, this makes me really happy to read: 

Exclusive: Katy Perry’s ‘Prism’ Is a Pop Music Masterpiece

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@@Trash Magic shared this me, this makes me really happy to read: 

 

Exclusive: Katy Perry’s ‘Prism’ Is a Pop Music Masterpiece

That was written by Perez ? 

 

"Katy Perry will definitely be making a similar impact that Madonna did with “Like a Prayer” and “Ray of Light" That's not happening   

 

Edit : Oh I just saw it's from the Examiner guy... 

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Christ, I feel the same way.

 

I think her discography is terribly overrated and overhyped, and her "saving grace" -- her ability to perform and put on a show -- really isn't all that great as it's been made out to be. She is NOT the female Michael Jackson, imo.

While she is a great technical performer; hitting every mark, every note, carrying herself with the "perfect" amount of sass, etc, it all seems very calculated, and not at all genuine. Every move she makes seems so deliberate, the way she moves her body (not sure how to describe it, she's technically doing the moves correctly but doesn't move like an actual dancer), her voice, although brilliant, can be so affected in its delivery, portraying perfect amount of pain, the perfect amount of playfulness, the perfect amount of forcefulness. Perfect, perfect, perfect. I don't know. Her interactions with her fans and banter while on stage seem so insincere, right down to the way she smiles, throws her head back and laughs, and that single tear that falls as she looks off into the distance while performing something that "moves her". It's as though there's something kind of robotic that's holding her back. It's as though her fixation on her image and appearing a certain way transcends to the stage and effects her delivery. I just can't get into it, as much as I want to and as talented as she undoubtedly is. I've just never once gotten the impression that she gets truly lost in her performances.

 

 

I feel like Britney at her peak, Freddie Mercury, two very different artists from one another -- are those on par with MJ for putting on a great fucking performance. Beyonce doesn't deserve to have her name mentioned in the same sentence as him. 

 

I touched a bit on her legendary, iconic status here. Basically, her team marketed her as a ~legend~ and ~iconic~; these were not bestowed upon her through the usual means of time passing and retrospection as they ought to be be. Funny how carefully worded press releases, demands for media outlets, and certain marketing can give someone a title and status that should only be earned in time and not as a hungry grab for a crown the public never set upon their head, if that makes any sense. 

 

ANYWAY, I said a lot more than I was meaning to and I only popped in here to mention a couple of op-ed pieces I feel hit the nail on the end in regards to both Beyonce's and Rihanna's career. The first touches on what @@elllipsis mentioned about her lack of notable songs despite her supposed status in music...

 

Beyonce: An Icon Who's Struggled to Make Iconic Music?

 

AND

 

Like She's the Only Girl in the World: The improbable, unstoppable success of Rihanna

  -- Choice quote:

          "Mariah, Whitney, Beyoncé, Gaga—these stars feel like stars. Rihanna feels like something else: a one hit-wonder several dozen times over."

 

(What is this accuracy? What a succinct way of putting it.) 

 

 

SPOT. ON.

 

These are my exact thoughts on her.

 

I've always put emotion and creativity way above technical proficiency - none of my favourite artists are perfect vocalists, virtuoso guitar players, and so on. It's simply not something I value all that much in music, so understandably Beyoncé doesn't do a whole lot for me - I don't see any emotion or artistic creativity there & she's such a control freak she almost seems robotic (yet people give Lana a hard time for not being 'authentic'? lmao, okay). I don't care for her as an 'artist' nor as a person. Add to that her 'iconic' status, and you'll get why she annoys me.

 

And YES, I completely agree that her 'legendary' status was manufactured. A classic case of 'if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth'.

 

Really curious about that article, off to read it.

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@Ellipses she is big everywhere.     I know all her lyrics yet I only have one album. I dont listen to her in my ipod so I guess I should blame the radio.   I have no idea if I like her or not. I did a post on her thread and you can see her concert in SP. It was insanity I never saw anything like that. Little Monsters seem like normal blocks compared to that. I cant find any resonable explanation why B Jesus is Jesus. I just know that she sells arenas like Jesus would

 

 

was talking about her the other day with my dad (our dad so you know is a advertiser/MKT and works basically with entertainment, politics and fashion) and he told  me a lot of topics why Beyonce was  created and why she was able to carry the character.  She is too US music what Neymar is too Brazilian football in my dads theory. Anyway I will talk about this with you later.

 

 

Sure she is, I think I didn't explain myself very well when I said that. What I mean is: while she's a huge artist that will sell out concerts pretty much anywhere (like any of the other 4 mentioned here), I get the impression that her status in the US is ridiculously untouchable: she's the perfect *everything* - the perfect star, the perfect performer, the perfect mother, the perfect wife, the perfect feminist; no one dares criticize her (not without receiving a lot of backlash anyway); and she & Jay Z are pretty much music's royal couple (a title that would imo belong to Kim & Kanye if she weren't utterly useless and so very unlikeable) and only second to the Obamas as far as powerful couples go. To me, that is absolutely crazy! Here she's a *huge* pop artist, but that's pretty much it.

 

About what I said re: lack of memorable songs -- I'm not a fan of either 5 & have never listened to a full album, so my knowledge of all of them is pretty much the same (= very limited). Yet off the top of my head I can easily think of 5 or 6 (if not more) Katy, Gaga, Rihanna and Britney songs respectively, and only 2 of Beyoncé's (Crazy In Love  - and Single Ladies, which I'd forgotten about in the previous post).

 

 

Really curious to hear our dad's theory - and his thoughts on Neymar too!

 

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This new lady gaga snippet, from Applause apparently: http://mistergermanotta.tumblr.com/post/57902104642/audio_player_iframe/mistergermanotta/tumblr_mrbpb2dOTc1saom5s?audio_file=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tumblr.com%2Faudio_file%2Fmistergermanotta%2F57902104642%2Ftumblr_mrbpb2dOTc1saom5s&color=white&simple=1

awful lyrics, listen to that enunciation also 

Compare that to Roar, which do you think will get more airplay? 

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It's getting ugly... 

Remember:

It you wanna make gentle jabs, I'm all for that, just keep it cute.

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It's getting ugly... 

Remember:

 

or we could just say: rise stan-wars rise, it's just the beginning.

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http://unicornmaker.tumblr.com/post/57903796490/i-was-imagining-applause-so-i-decided-to-sing-it

 

I

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MUCH

 

 

I LIVE FOR THE PLOR

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I LIVE FOR DE BLOW....is all I hear 

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I LIVE FOR DE BLOW....is all I hear 

Ive replayed it so many times

I stood for nothing, so I fell for everything >>> Katy perry inspiring a generation.

 

WHO HAS HAD THE BIGGEST IMPACT OF ALL ARTISTS LISTED?

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That was written by Perez ? 

 

"Katy Perry will definitely be making a similar impact that Madonna did with “Like a Prayer” and “Ray of Light" That's not happening   

 

Edit : Oh I just saw it's from the Examiner guy... 

 

Most biased article I've ever read, and guess who the author is... ahahaha. This guy.

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Ive replayed it so many times

I stood for nothing, so I fell for everything >>> Katy perry inspiring a generation.

 

WHO HAS HAD THE BIGGEST IMPACT OF ALL ARTISTS LISTED?

 

That,s a ironic quote...but you know that right?

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Question for you: what do you think of the tactics used by Katy and her team to ensure those number ones? Do you think they were shady/dishonest/cheap moves, or do you see it as fair and square and just what one must do to be successful in a cut-throat music industry? I'm interested because in your opinion because a) You're a Katy fan, but you're not a stan so you'll be less apt to blindly applaud her for whatever she does and b) I believe you studied marketing (?), so it'd be cool to get your opinion on this.

 

I myself am pretty indifferent to the entire situation -- I'm not outraged or think it's horrible or am heavily invested in this -- but I can't help but think that MJ was just a little bit more deserving of it than Katy because he used absolutely no tricks/stunts to get his number ones.

 

What does everyone else think?

 

I'm up for hearing other peoples' opinions on this too. I think I'll share my opinion after I get some sleep though.

 

I'm not sure of what tatics you're refering too. I mean I know what I think she ( her and MKT team & management) did I just didn't get what you think she did LOL. Can you evolve please? Otherwise I won't be able to frame and construct

hahaha the joke was flying around LOL don't blame me

 

 

About MJ....he was the MKT king. He used so many tricks he wrote a playbook. The men was genius. Many compare Gaga to Madonna but I personally think Gaga took notes from MJ's book note Madonna's.

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Katy Perrys look and sound peaked during the One Of The Boys era. Waking Up In Vegas is the last good thing shes done tbh 

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@@Trash Magic shared this me, this makes me really happy to read: 

 

Exclusive: Katy Perry’s ‘Prism’ Is a Pop Music Masterpiece

 

Curious about other things you're happy to read

 

 

There is a reason why a cocaine addict named Lady Gaga has been releasing pornographic videos, faking hip injuries to cover up for bad ticket sales, and sitting still while her fans tweet cruel messages to Katy Perry.

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Curious about other things you're happy to read

This.

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That was written by Perez ? 

 

"Katy Perry will definitely be making a similar impact that Madonna did with “Like a Prayer” and “Ray of Light" That's not happening   

 

Edit : Oh I just saw it's from the Examiner guy... 

 

Just like some people called Artpopm the biggest thing since Thriller? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH THAT'S NOT HAPPENING EITHER

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Look at that 30 votes for Queen Gags.

 

More like "Look at that 30+ fake Lana Del Rey fans

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Just like some people called Artpopm the biggest thing since Thriller? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH THAT'S NOT HAPPENING EITHER

Of course that's not happening either. I just don't understand why people or critics always say that's the new this, that's the new that, it's just stupid. We can't predict an album impact.

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Suprised that nobod is talking about King B shooting a new video with Jonas Akerlund.