Embach 42,487 Posted August 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, 111 said: it's one of these, it's hard to know for sure if she says the T silently on purpose in winter or if she is just saying winner but both of these make sense with the song unlike the nonsensical lyric that's being pushed which makes no sense in context (like the winter we're not in). but this time i really don't have the patience to teach context and structure of lyrics to annoying and rude af people on the internet who write paragraphs trying to discredit and attack others because of their own personal projections, lack of knowledge (Apple Music is not official for Lana, some artists submit their lyrics to Apple Music but not her so they pull whatever lyrics they can find from Genius/online) and whatever mental health issues they got going on underneath all that craziness that i want nothing to do with. oh and also having the stems is a big help! but what do i know? no amount of evidence or common sense can help people who can't accept that they are wrong and need a check-up with their ears... https://krakenfiles.com/view/AzHe2C3nNK/file.html Ty for explaining! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tana Mongeau 4,989 Posted August 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, 111 said: it's one of these, it's hard to know for sure if she says the T silently on purpose in winter or if she is just saying winner but both of these make sense with the song unlike the nonsensical lyric that's being pushed which makes no sense in context (like the winter we're not in). but this time i really don't have the patience to teach context and structure of lyrics to annoying and rude af people on the internet who write paragraphs trying to discredit and attack others because of their own personal projections, lack of knowledge (Apple Music is not official for Lana, some artists submit their lyrics to Apple Music but not her so they pull whatever lyrics they can find from Genius/online) and whatever mental health issues they got going on underneath all that craziness that i want nothing to do with. oh and also having the stems is a big help! but what do i know? no amount of evidence or common sense can help people who can't accept that they are wrong and need a check-up with their ears... https://krakenfiles.com/view/AzHe2C3nNK/file.html You’re so sexy 0 Quote what if the cockroaches have psychedelic pussy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genghis khan 5,107 Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, 111 said: it's one of these, it's hard to know for sure if she says the T silently on purpose in winter or if she is just saying winner but both of these make sense with the song unlike the nonsensical lyric that's being pushed which makes no sense in context (like the winter we're not in). but this time i really don't have the patience to teach context and structure of lyrics to annoying and rude af people on the internet who write paragraphs trying to discredit and attack others because of their own personal projections, lack of knowledge (Apple Music is not official for Lana, some artists submit their lyrics to Apple Music but not her so they pull whatever lyrics they can find from Genius/online) and whatever mental health issues they got going on underneath all that craziness that i want nothing to do with. oh and also having the stems is a big help! but what do i know? no amount of evidence or common sense can help people who can't accept that they are wrong and need a check-up with their ears... https://krakenfiles.com/view/AzHe2C3nNK/file.html "like the winter we're not in" makes perfect sense. The preceding lyric is "white lines pretty daddy go skiing" and Florida doesn't have a real winter. Also i've noticed that people sometimes don't really pronounce the t in winter if they're talking fast. And if you think about it, if she were to pronounce it here, it would kind of come off as weirdly enunciated. But that's just my take 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
111 36,680 Posted August 30, 2023 23 minutes ago, genghis khan said: "like the winter we're not in" makes perfect sense. The preceding lyric is "white lines pretty daddy go skiing" and Florida doesn't have a real winter. Also i've noticed that people sometimes don't really pronounce the t in winter if they're talking fast. And if you think about it, if she were to pronounce it here, it would kind of come off as weirdly enunciated. But that's just my take the preceding line is "you snort it like a champ", and she continues by finishing it with saying that the guy lets the winter/winner inside of him by snorting the coke. someone snorting drugs like the winter they are not in has no meaning. if we were to put aside the winter/winner discussion, she sings LET and nothing close to like/love or anything like that. but look we all have our takes and interpretations, if you listened to the link i shared or any of the live performances she did for this song and still believe she says "like the winter we're not in" then there's nothing i can do to change your mind. people hear and believe what they wanna hear and believe. just look at the mtwbt lyric thread... i choose to trust what evidence, such as vocal stems and live performances tell me, not what it sounds like on the studio version and the lack of winter climate in Florida xoxo 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genghis khan 5,107 Posted August 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, 111 said: the preceding line is "you snort it like a champ", and she continues by finishing it with saying that the guy lets the winter/winner inside of him by snorting the coke. someone snorting drugs like the winter they are not in has no meaning. if we were to put aside the winter/winner discussion, she sings LET and nothing close to like/love or anything like that. but look we all have our takes and interpretations, if you listened to the link i shared or any of the live performances she did for this song and still believe she says "like the winter we're not in" then there's nothing i can do to change your mind. people hear and believe what they wanna hear and believe. just look at the mtwbt lyric thread... i choose to trust what evidence, such as vocal stems and live performances tell me, not what it sounds like on the studio version and the lack of winter climate in Florida xoxo anyway why does the kraken file say allah 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
111 36,680 Posted August 30, 2023 Just now, genghis khan said: anyway why does the kraken file say allah cause y'all need to let the allah allah in xoxo 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Embach 42,487 Posted August 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, 111 said: the preceding line is "you snort it like a champ", and she continues by finishing it with saying that the guy lets the winter/winner inside of him by snorting the coke. someone snorting drugs like the winter they are not in has no meaning. if we were to put aside the winter/winner discussion, she sings LET and nothing close to like/love or anything like that. but look we all have our takes and interpretations, if you listened to the link i shared or any of the live performances she did for this song and still believe she says "like the winter we're not in" then there's nothing i can do to change your mind. people hear and believe what they wanna hear and believe. just look at the mtwbt lyric thread... i choose to trust what evidence, such as vocal stems and live performances tell me, not what it sounds like on the studio version and the lack of winter climate in Florida xoxo We need more essays like this, honestly. This was well explained. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Embach 42,487 Posted August 30, 2023 Listened to it again and I think it's "winner winner", well def the last "winner" cuz she nasally emphasizes it and says it like "winnna" 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadesofloveduthenandnow 20,610 Posted August 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Embach said: No hate but what's wrong with it that you consider it her worst? The vocals, the lyrics, the production, its existence 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamesss 3,818 Posted August 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, shadesofloveduthenandnow said: The vocals, the lyrics, the production, its existence bffr 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lavender Sunshine 4,246 Posted August 30, 2023 "Turning diamonds into snow" 1 Quote 𝖑𝖆𝖘𝖙.𝖋𝖒|𝕷𝖆𝖛𝖊𝖓𝖉𝖊𝖗𝕲𝖗𝖗𝖗𝖑 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
111 36,680 Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Lavender Sunshine said: "Turning diamonds into snow" snow = winter = snort = let winter inside it's like mathematics innit, bit of trigonometry (not simple!) 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Get Drunk 17,971 Posted August 30, 2023 3 hours ago, 111 said: https://krakenfiles.com/view/AzHe2C3nNK/file.html Now why am I hearing winter still.. it’s like she’s not saying the T properly but she’s splitting the word in the middle (like more emphasis on the second part, Win-Ter, as opposed to just simply winner). 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Get Drunk 17,971 Posted August 30, 2023 I always heard winter we’re not in. And it made sense bc of the snow/skiing lyrics. you sniff in winter, you sniff after snorting coke. “Like the winter we’re not in”. He’s sniffing but it’s not winter. it always made sense to me idk.. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
111 36,680 Posted August 30, 2023 someone email/DM harmony korine right now! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Embach 42,487 Posted August 30, 2023 I think even Lana doesn't know forgot what's the real lyrics (winter or winner) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mer 61,774 Posted August 30, 2023 I always heard "let the winner, winner in" (i.e., he was snorting a bunch of things, and only one will be the "winner" that gets him high) a BUT, I think in context "like the winter we're not in" makes more sense, in the context of coke, skiing and snow metaphors. 1 Quote ⊹ (:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅:♡:]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅) ⊹ 𓊔 I took the miracle move on drug 𓊔 ⚕️ The effects were temporary ⚕️ ⊹ (:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅:♡:]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅) ⊹ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Embach 42,487 Posted August 30, 2023 Live shows are the best proof honestly (well not always, she sometines forgets lyrics) because we can sometimes hear her pronunciation with the mic a bit better (also live shows helped to prove the ribbons in knots lyrics in MTWBT) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Traveler 682 Posted August 30, 2023 He is a Champ = Winner There is an old saying Winner Winner Chicken dinner "Let the Winner Winner in" That's how I always heard it... 5 Quote with the absolute heart of the poem of life butchered out of their own bodies good to eat a thousand years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Embach 42,487 Posted August 30, 2023 What movie was it meant for? A documentary? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites