Speculation: Piano Theme, Morricone, & I Talk To Jesus

[UltraHeroin 8,803]

BP is July 2014

Oh wow, even earlier, I always thought it was 2015 for some reason. Then I would say that's definetly a really early Honeymoon track, but who knows

[111 36,676]

Oh wow, even earlier, I always thought it was 2015 for some reason. Then I would say that's definetly a really early Honeymoon track, but who knows

It was submitted for Big Eyes

[Amadeus 11,333]

the whole “i don’t think ___ has demos/outtakes” needs to DIE

 

there is almost NO way they made and finished an entire song within one session and called it the final version afterwards except it’s something like some things last a long time or smth

 

wasn’t hbtb one of the last tracks to get recorded? that literally confirms there’s at least one swan song version without the hbtb sample then

[cherryblossoms 10,413]

the whole “i don’t think ___ has demos/outtakes” needs to DIE

 

there is almost NO way they made and finished an entire song within one session and called it the final version afterwards except it’s something like some things last a long time or smth

 

wasn’t hbtb one of the last tracks to get recorded? that literally confirms there’s at least one swan song version without the hbtb sample then

Yup and she said in an interview during LFL era that she lowered the key of four songs in HM bc she thought she sounded too vulnerable or something

[DinahLee 6,189]

Demos =\= Outtakes.

There will always be song demos, even if it's only one guitar that was lower and then they turned it louder before putting the song on the final tracklist. 

 

 

I think the whole Ultraviolence talk is a bit tricky since it was mentioned like "re-recording" the songs with Dan or whatever. It's all a bit foggy and I don't think we'll ever be sure about what happened "in the making" of the record.

We have Demo snippets that make the songs sound a bit more "Polished\Plastic" and "Digital" while the final product is rawer and analog. I still somehow believe that "untoucheable 5" were early drafts for the Record. Also, thinking about it right now, that Black Beauty demo could easily fit with Money Power Glory demo we got.

 

I don't believe there's "A lot" after she managed to get it right with Dan. A lot of stuff was seem to be done by "CALL IT A DAY" way (Pretty When You Cry, Cruel World??) and things went straight to the record. Unless she really had some songs that were "too personal" or "weak" I don't think she scrapped many songs from this....

 

Also the way they managed to get 17 songs tucked into the album with all the special editions, I think they tried to milk it til it was almost dried lol 

[13bitches 6,176]

Demos =\= Outtakes.

There will always be song demos, even if it's only one guitar that was lower and then they turned it louder before putting the song on the final tracklist.

 

 

I think the whole Ultraviolence talk is a bit tricky since it was mentioned like "re-recording" the songs with Dan or whatever. It's all a bit foggy and I don't think we'll ever be sure about what happened "in the making" of the record.

We have Demo snippets that make the songs sound a bit more "Polished\Plastic" and "Digital" while the final product is rawer and analog. I still somehow believe that "untoucheable 5" were early drafts for the Record. Also, thinking about it right now, that Black Beauty demo could easily fit with Money Power Glory demo we got.

 

I don't believe there's "A lot" after she managed to get it right with Dan. A lot of stuff was seem to be done by "CALL IT A DAY" way (Pretty When You Cry, Cruel World??) and things went straight to the record. Unless she really had some songs that were "too personal" or "weak" I don't think she scrapped many songs from this....

 

Also the way they managed to get 17 songs tucked into the album with all the special editions, I think they tried to milk it til it was almost dried lol

 

17? I thought there were only 16

 

The 11 main album tracks

Black Beauty

Guns and Roses

Dorito Kilos

Is This Happiness

Flipside

??

[SlowGinFizzzz 15,354]

17? I thought there were only 16

 

The 11 main album tracks

Black Beauty

Guns and Roses

Dorito Kilos

Is This Happiness

Flipside

??

West Coast (Skinny Mix)

[111 36,676]

17? I thought there were only 16

 

The 11 main album tracks

Black Beauty

Guns and Roses

Dorito Kilos

Is This Happiness

Flipside

??

 

west coast radio mix or w/e? 

[13bitches 6,176]

West Coast (Skinny Mix)

  

west coast radio mix or w/e?

 

O shit forgot about that one

[Off To The Races 2010 demo pls 19,335]

Isn't this an UV outtake too?

 

[Beauty King 1,705]

Isn't this an UV outtake too?

 

 

 

Not necessarily. It might just be a cover or some noodling that she did for shits and giggles at soundcheck.

[American Whore 51,262]

Oh my bad I read "demos"    I was like there's sure as hell no Honeymoon demos, Rick let's Lana put out whatever she wants and she loves using the first recording and instrumental, plus you can kinda tell they are none just by the way it sounds. But yeah outtakes would be so interesting!

 

Born To Die says hello. There’s definitely demo versions of the HM tracks and if there’s multiple versions, I wouldn’t be surprised. The title track I wouldn’t expect demos for, maybe an acapella but probably not a different version with different lyrics. MTWBT was done early on for the album, she talked about that track the week after UV released so I’d expect maybe 2-3 different versions of that one maybe. Just because it was done early on.

[PerwinkleDreams 6,800]

Born To Die says hello. There’s definitely demo versions of the HM tracks and if there’s multiple versions, I wouldn’t be surprised. The title track I wouldn’t expect demos for, maybe an acapella but probably not a different version with different lyrics. MTWBT was done early on for the album, she talked about that track the week after UV released so I’d expect maybe 2-3 different versions of that one maybe. Just because it was done early on.

BTD aka back when Lana put effort into her albums sis... Sometimes you guys fail to realize BTD has been in the works since 2009.... where as UV and Honeymoon were birthed in a year. There's definitely no HM demos, only outtakes. But it's fun to dream!  

[Say Yes to Heaven 27,456]

One of the mixers/engineers literally said Honeymoon demos sound like the 80s lmao, what do y’all mean there’s no demos for that album.

[Say Yes to Heaven 27,456]

I also don’t see how anyone can believe Lana just walks into the studio and leaves with a fully produced song with everything she wanted. Of course there’s exceptions which Lana has said herself, Pretty When You Cry, Y*semite, but even Cruel World which was super “raw” had an early demo that they did in one take which is NOT the same as what we have. Every song has an early concept which is probably just recorded on lana’s phone as a melody or something and then taken into studio and they do early vocals and instruments and then work more on it. They even have to be mixed, which means there are unmixed versions too. I don’t think for a SECOND that there are more than 5 released Lana songs that she just banged out right then and there entirely

 

I am pretty sure you guys think if no one has it (aka leakers/hoarders) then it just doesn’t exist or its impossible for it to have happened.

[PerwinkleDreams 6,800]

One of the mixers/engineers literally said Honeymoon demos sound like the 80s lmao, what do y’all mean there’s no demos for that album.

[PerwinkleDreams 6,800]

I also don’t see how anyone can believe Lana just walks into the studio and leaves with a fully produced song with everything she wanted. Of course there’s exceptions which Lana has said herself, Pretty When You Cry, Y*semite, but even Cruel World which was super “raw” had an early demo that they did in one take which is NOT the same as what we have. Every song has an early concept which is probably just recorded on lana’s phone as a melody or something and then taken into studio and they do early vocals and instruments and then work more on it. They even have to be mixed, which means there are unmixed versions too. I don’t think for a SECOND that there are more than 5 released Lana songs that she just banged out right then and there entirely

 

I am pretty sure you guys think if no one has it (aka leakers/hoarders) then it just doesn’t exist or its impossible for it to have happened.

All I'm saying is recording a melody on your phone in voice notes, sending it to your producer for him to make an instrumental (Lana has said before most of the time Rick would make her an instrumental to sing over before there was even a demo) then singing over it, and editing it a tiny bit the next day isn't considered a demo to me personally just because you have one different synth, maybe an unmixed drum session, that's not the purpose of demos... they're meant for you to see what direction you should take the song into, just like how diverse BTD demos were. If you wanna called an unmixed session with one different synth a demo, then damn might as well call her voice notes demos too!    Like I get what you mean, but there's really a difference between an early version of a song, a demo and a rough concept. I'm saying Lana presumably went from rough concept to early version Just my opinion babes

[Amadeus 11,333]

All I'm saying is recording a melody on your phone in voice notes, sending it to your producer for him to make an instrumental (Lana has said before most of the time Rick would make her an instrumental to sing over before there was even a demo) then singing over it, and editing it a tiny bit the next day isn't considered a demo to me personally just because you have one different synth, maybe an unmixed drum session, that's not the purpose of demos... they're meant for you to see what direction you should take the song into, just like how diverse BTD demos were. If you wanna called an unmixed session with one different synth a demo, then damn might as well call her voice notes demos too!    Like I get what you mean, but there's really a difference between an early version of a song, a demo and a rough concept. I'm saying Lana presumably went from rough concept to early version Just my opinion babes

 

judging by this then neither beautiful people, love, young & beautiful, summertime sadness, video games or summer bummer demos are.. demos 

[PerwinkleDreams 6,800]

judging by this then neither beautiful people, love, young & beautiful, summertime sadness, video games or summer bummer demos are.. demos 

beautiful people literally is different lyrics and a different key, obviously it's a demo

summertime sadness demo sounds different

summer bummer demo to me isn't a demo it's literally just an early mix

I'm saying if we're considering everything that is slighty different to be a demo then damn

[lmdr 10,669]

I agree with @Peroxide. Some people confuse early mix with demo. “So Good” aka Summer Bummer “demo” to me, is an early mix