electra 20,644 Posted May 23, 2017 are you saying that we deserved it ? That we should surrender against religious extremism ? gosh I'm saying we can't play victim when we punch someone and they punch back? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amadeus 11,334 Posted May 23, 2017 I'm saying we can't play victim when we punch someone and they punch back? i'm trying to be as nice as possible but do you like need a reality check? are you saying that the ban on face covering in public areas justifies islamic terror in france? by this logic ukraine should be allowed to invade parts of russia because of the russian annexation of the crimea and the ongoing war in ukraine's eastern regions? 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tristesse 1,765 Posted May 23, 2017 I'm saying we can't play victim when we punch someone and they punch back? Ok we're done here_ 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bummersummer 2,218 Posted May 23, 2017 I'm saying we can't play victim when we punch someone and they punch back? what the actual fuck. following this logic, the cartoonists of Charlie Hebdo also had it coming? Denmark has had it coming for a long, long time for Jyllands-Posten? what in the biblical eye for an eye hell is this comment. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alienprincess 1,972 Posted May 23, 2017 I'm saying we can't play victim when we punch someone and they punch back? I can't believe this comment was even made... wow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Cuomo 3,320 Posted May 23, 2017 congrats on being this site's first terrorist sympathizer @electra 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beautiful Loser 48,967 Posted May 23, 2017 While y'all arguing there and stuff, a city in my country is being invaded by ISIS as we speak. This is terrifying. If this is the Philippines, I sincerely hope you will be ok and everyone you know - even though I'm a new member here and I have no idea who you are. I read about some damage that happened there... it did NOT sound good. ♥ 4 Quote LB DEMOGRAPHICS SURVEY 2024 | SECRET SANTA 2024 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cashcomesquick 5,381 Posted May 23, 2017 We've been destroying these countries for so many years. This leads to people becoming radical. That's what @electra tried to say. Also, @Floplania Trump, you're a poor soul. People over there, who are muslims, are suffering from these disgusting people. If you used your brain, you would realize that these people are trying to escape the terrorists in their own countries, yet you claim that the religion itself was the problem? If they followed their ideology, wouldn't they stay in their countries? Also, never forget that they're trying to divide us intentionally. We have to show them that we're strong and proud of living together, irrespective of our religions, skin color, etc. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trayertrash 7,211 Posted May 23, 2017 ISIS is less than 1% of Islam Islam ≠ ISIS ISIS are extremists 99% of Muslims do no support Do not blame the 99% for the actions of the 1% If you're going to attack anyone's views, attack the people who committed and support the actions of ISIS, not people who are in the same religion. We do not hold other religions accountable for the actions a few so why do it with Islam? When people of other religions attack, we're quick to point it out as an individual's actions, but if they're Muslims we blame it on the religion and not the individual, even if they aren't connected to ISIS. The "us vs. them" mentality a lot of people have is why extremism continues on both sides. America has had soldiers who go into the army just for a chance to kill anyone who appears to be Muslim. We have soldiers who kill for sport, don't follow protocol, and who often aren't punished for it. America has Christian extremist who bomb mosques, attack Muslim women on the street, and murder Muslim children, all in the name of patriotism and Christianity. We have news stations that refuse to even acknowledge the destruction of schools and cities in the middle east, who won't say that the reason XYZ happened is because America did ABC. We have a major news station who has made billions off of Islamophobia and radicalizing Christians. We have military officers who lie about the reasons why they attack civilians and deny they murdered anyone at all (a lot of this are issues Chelsea Manning helped uncover) Those actions lead some Muslims to fear and hate Christians. They see how good people, people they know and love, are trying to escape extremism but are turned down because of religion. That bubbles up to a point where they turn to ISIS for community and understanding of their fears and hate. ISIS attacks and it leads to more Christian extremist, which leads to more ISIS recruitment. It's this fucked up cycle that we're going to perpetuate until we're all dead or make a change. We keep having this 'chicken and the egg' issue where one religion wants to say the other started it when really, it's something that's so deep historically it's impossible to pinpoint it. I don't have a full proof answer for it, but this back and forth shooting and bombing each other isn't the answer. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electra 20,644 Posted May 23, 2017 what the actual fuck. following this logic, the cartoonists of Charlie Hebdo also had it coming? Denmark has had it coming for a long, long time for Jyllands-Posten? what in the biblical eye for an eye hell is this comment. I'm hardly saying we deserve it but we can't exactly act God, we simply can't. We aren't. congrats on being this site's first terrorist sympathizer @electra Imagine thinking not all Muslims are terrorists makes me a terrorist sympathiser. Can't relate. i'm trying to be as nice as possible but do you like need a reality check? are you saying that the ban on face covering in public areas justifies islamic terror in france? by this logic ukraine should be allowed to invade parts of russia because of the russian annexation of the crimea and the ongoing war in ukraine's eastern regions? No ones "allowed" to inflict anything on anyone, but when we murder a lot of innocent people I can't say we shouldn't expect retaliation. That is kind of a fact, and a sad one. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flowerbomb 65,594 Posted May 23, 2017 Manchester Arena bombing: Police name attacker as Salman Ramadan Abedi, 22 Also I think Ariana has suspended the tour... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electra 20,644 Posted May 23, 2017 Manchester Arena bombing: Police name attacker as Salman Ramadan Abedi, 22 Also I think Ariana has suspended the tour... I don't blame her. I wouldn't be surprised if she outright cancelled it. A lot of artists not involved are also suspending I hear. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Cuomo 3,320 Posted May 23, 2017 Manchester Arena bombing: Police name attacker as Salman Ramadan Abedi, 22 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My Sparrow Blue 689 Posted May 23, 2017 While y'all arguing there and stuff, a city in my country is being invaded by ISIS as we speak. This is terrifying.[Hope you are okay, that sounds so scary. Please stay safe 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graham4anything 2,859 Posted May 23, 2017 Just saying TimidMcCoward the white Christian terrorist who killed all the kids in Oklahoma city, the Black Church bombings and shootings in the US (along with the other mass shootings) ---------------------------------------------------------- One may know the identity of the one who did this event last night, but one will have no clue as to why he did it, or perhaps was forced to do it. It is not out of the realm that someone forced him to strap it on and do it. Very many what-ifs, and the coincidental (I don't believe in coincidences) like the draconian England leader, Ms. Jorg Haider and first thing she did was say, no politics for the next (unknown) number of days with an election coming up shortly. (Who does that benefit, her, and hurts the person running against her). the ultra-rightwing Putin and Trump and Bibi all in the news and at the Wailing Wall, threatening Iran with this and that and then hours later, someone totally covered is brought out before a camera and takes credit. IF one starts to stereotype, then anyone who looked like Timid McCoward of Oklahoma City would have been rounded up wouldn't they? I find that wrong. There are probably a million or two people who are Muslims who practice Islam in the NYC/NJ area. I don't believe 99.99999999999999999999999999999% mean any harm and of course, as they live side by side with us, they have not. Please don't hate entire people for the actions of one or two, and possibly some of the leaders. and please don't hide in ones house and not go out...living in fear is like living in a prison of ones mind. and what really is needed is better security after events as this is the 2nd major event that happened outside after the show/sport event was over. For all the good that one entering a place is checked, if there is no security on the way out it is all for naught. And I have been reading comments in the media, and a lot of people are saying really nasty things about Ariana. That is wrong too. Ariana needs to have everyone tell her, nothing she did was the cause of this.Love not hate will eventually win out. 4 Quote Lana is our modern day Edith Piaf. Totally unique. a mixture of Brian WIlson Roy Orbison, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Elton & Bernie. Born to Die/Paradise is comparable to Elton's Captain Fantastic. All the records need to be listened whole. Waiting for a box set vinyl of all 400 songs not on any lp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reputation 6,321 Posted May 23, 2017 y'all im so shook.. there were so many fans tweeting they were so excited they were gonna see her on the 22nd and this happened.. cannot imagine if this had happened at my atlantic city show and ISIS claiming responsibility, disgusting 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carino 16 Posted May 23, 2017 Nothing to see here, move along, just another jihadi attack, this has nothing to do with islam, islam is a religion of peace, no reason to be islamophobic, right David? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salp 1,696 Posted May 23, 2017 daily flop mail stalking her as usual, poor Ariana.- 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H E R O I N 1,536 Posted May 23, 2017 -Robster on Twitter 1 Quote shake it up, throw your hands up and get L O O S E Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toshi 948 Posted May 23, 2017 I was at the concert last night guys, worst thing I've ever experienced! Glad to be home now. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites