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Lana + Kanye cover Billboard Magazine Alongside Lucian Grainge
whitman replied to plush's topic in Latest News
So this issue does not feature any Lana interview, right? -
Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread
whitman replied to ilovetati's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
He's also a producer right? This meeting might not be so casual -
Lana + Kanye cover Billboard Magazine Alongside Lucian Grainge
whitman replied to plush's topic in Latest News
Imagine if this is the guy Lana had a seven years relationship -
Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread
whitman replied to ilovetati's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I think Sad Girl is such a grower. When she sings 'I'm a sad girl, I'm a sad girl, I'm a bad girl' over and over it sounds like she is trying to convince herself even more of it, the way she intoned makes as complex for me as a more elaborate chorus. -
Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread
whitman replied to ilovetati's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Her last interview didn't really reveal anything new but her comment about success caught my attention: "It's the relationship I have with other artists that make me a true musician, not the amount of albums I sell". She's been pretty open about looking for artistic validation by critics and music community, not enjoying her success and so on but I think after UV ( especially because she release and then completely forgot about the album or videos, promotion and whatever) people were wondering if the decision to move on to another album already was a label thing or really a creative decision. At least for me her last comment gave me confidence about Honeymoon and the direction she's going ( although I'm still not over UV so it's alright if she decides to release a new album next year) -
Minor General Questions that Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
whitman replied to Monicker's topic in Lana Thoughts
Thank you! Is Are You Ready? an alternative title for a known song or it hasn't leaked yet? -
Minor General Questions that Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
whitman replied to Monicker's topic in Lana Thoughts
Yeah, I think is almost the same as the God Bless America Mixtape but I just want to be sure -
Minor General Questions that Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
whitman replied to Monicker's topic in Lana Thoughts
Does anybody remember the full tracklist of the demo album Polydor send to The Guardian with songs like Driving in Cars with Boys, Gangster Boy and so on before VG came out? -
Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread
whitman replied to ilovetati's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Hopefully none of us Let's hope she does her best and surprise us all like she did so many times before. -
Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread
whitman replied to ilovetati's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I've just listened this album and I would love if Lana decides to go into this direction if she works with Manson. Actually I'm listening a lot of stuff he produced just to get used to his sound ( his album is also pretty solid) and I think he pretty much is the perfect producer to work with her basically because he brings the best of two worlds: organic sound but also clear vocals. -
You just made me imagine how heavenly it would be a duet with James Vincent and now I'm really sad because this probably never gonna happen.
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Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread
whitman replied to ilovetati's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Maybe Heath and Nowels are somehow involved too: "Dan Heath and Rick Nowels are two of my dearest friends and producers and we are always up to something." for Galore. She said 4 songs are already finished but didn't confirm the producer. I'm not entirely sure if Mark is the responsible for the production of those tracks since they sound closer to Born to Die and Paradise. -
Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread
whitman replied to ilovetati's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I was reading Mark Ronson's interview for Billboard and he didn't mention Lana or any project he's working right now. He will be busy promoting this Bruno Mars single and his album so if Lana wants him producing Honeymoon she will have to wait a little longer I guess. I'm praying for them to work together tho -
The National Damien Rice Black Keys - a duet between Lana and Dan
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His tricks are getting old he should have known by now. I know he's this producer with "production style" but using the same loon and doing the same production he did 3 years ago? Just for the record he used all of this on The Neighborhood album too. Other than that, beautiful melody and Lana's vocal delivery was sublime, lyrics are kinda ok but the chorus is indeed better than anything released recently but I'm not sure if she wrote it.
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Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread
whitman replied to ilovetati's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
You have to read in the context as I explained Lana is a lyricist first and then a performer/singer and she's still developing her stage presence. It's not about vocals on point but for example she wrote a line like "my pussy tastes like pepsi cola" but if you watch some of her performances she sings in a very shy and introverted way - which is very different from what we expect from someone who sing a line like this. A "miming" singer maybe could sing this with a very sexy performance. In the very beginning of backlash she received one of the subjects of criticism was her live performances that made her sound like she was playing a character, well maybe she is. My point is: you can write a song about sex without performing in a sexy way. A song doesn't rely only on live performances to still be a great song which was the argument I was replying. -
Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread
whitman replied to ilovetati's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Some songs can't really be recreated live with the same impact as studio versions specially moody, minimalistic tracks. The other way around happens too ( when songs are better live) specially for rock bands. So an artist don't depend on performances to convey their message. When it comes to Lana's music there is this really departure from her persona she created in her music and the way she really is. She's not a diva, she's not a performer but she is a lyricist at first ( something she always mentions in her interviews).I honestly never watched a good performance of SS and OTTR from her but those songs stand for themselves. As a performer she is still developing her stage presence and to control her voice, is she better now than when she started? Yep, but as glastonbury showed us she totally freaks out when she faces big crowds. She doesn't rely on her live performances to deliver great albums and this is what really makes her a good artist. -
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman is a directly influence on Lana's work. You don't really to read all of it but the Children of Adam copilations of poems ( which Body Electric is part of) is essentially to understand Tropico and her Paradise EP "Whitman reverses this traditional Christian tenet. He asserts that it is not Adam but Adam's children who have really lost the Garden of Eden. Adam's children can regain this lost paradise not by denying the flesh, which had been a Puritan belief, but by accepting it. Man will then be reborn through this glorification of his body, for the human body is as sacred as the spirit. Thus, man is not born debased as a result of Original Sin. He should be proud of his heritage and of the "Adamic" in him." http://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/l/leaves-of-grass/summary-and-analysis-children-of-adam/introduction - Lolita: Nobokov's work in general is amazing - not just Lolita but I love it The Real Life of Sebastian Knight. But as a Lana fan of course Lolita is a must read! - Think and Grow Rich: Lana mentioned once this book by Napoleon Hill as a influence but I honestly never read it. You can check it out! - Great Gatsby: When it comes to novels that aren't explicit influence I think Great Gatsby is a great reading and I always think of Lana. The "dark side of the american dream" is a recurrent theme in Lana's songs and this novel summaryze this whole subject perfectly. - On The Road by Jack Kerouac. If you love Ride ( music and video) you must read this classic. Ride's dialogue is heavily inspired by his work ( at least for me). Example: "the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars." "Live, travel, adventure, bless, and don't be sorry"
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Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread
whitman replied to ilovetati's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
UVs lyrics aren't bad I just thought they were repetitive with her usual theme. She went further into themes she already worked before considering her official work and unreleased catalogue. My concern is for the third record she sticks to this imagery before giving her time to decide what to do next. But I have to agree with you that she delivered a really good work with Paradise which is definitely better than BTD -
Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread
whitman replied to ilovetati's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Am I the one really concerned about the lyrical content? We basically listened not only her official work but more than 250 songs ( or even more) that are so diverse and represent so much aspects of Lana's work that right now I think is impossible to be surprised with her work again. What made UV so special it was definitely the "narco swing" sound not the lyrics ( although they weren't bad as some people say) and based on her latest effort ( I can Fly and Big Eyes) I'm not really sure anymore if it's good idea to move on to a next record so quickly. Maybe it was better if she just take some time before putting everything she wrote last year in the record. If she writes better songs after? Take BTD for example, it was a collection of songs written during all those years she was looking for a record deal. She probably could have chosen any song in her catalogue but mostly she chose the best ones ( Haynie destroyed some with his repetitive production but that's ok). Isn't better for her continue writing and developing her new sound and in the end choose the best songs for Honeymoon? -
Although the song is a lolita-esque story and she mentions the first line of the book "Light of my life, fire of my loins" her Lolita is much more inspired by the movies and pop culture vision of the character than the one described on the book. I can definitely see much more of Nabokov's writing style influence on her - specially because both created a romantic vision of such twisted love stories. So the novel might not appeal to you just because you loved the song, specially because is heavily more inspired by beatnik novels and noir archetypes, the whole " my life is a mess and my man is bad and loves cocaine" isn't something you'll find in the novel. The book is narrated by Humbert, the molester, which is a hopeless romantic Of course one can argue that Lolita is not a romantic novel but the main character is so out of reality of his own actions. Anyway it's one of my favorites books and recommend to read it!
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you all are too gay for me to deal with....She looks hot and stunning. That's all
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Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread
whitman replied to ilovetati's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I don't know if I'm wrong but those 9 songs she mentioned in Billboard interview were not produced by Mark Ronson. She played him those songs to him ( like mentioned in Grazia Interview before) and she is hoping he brings his jazz assignature to them. Right now they sound like the first two records because she probably worked with same producers. So from the description we got now "very similar to the first two"to the final product might turn out to be really different because his production style isn't similar AT ALL to BTD/Paradise. Or even so he might not even be involved in this project anymore since she didn't mention him in this interview which is suspicious since she talked about their production.