Beautiful Loser

anyone is free to tweet any of these points too 

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RETWEET ME GUYS <3

 
 
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I wonder what The Hollies think of this whole mess??

Reminded me of this great video on how similar pop songs can be:

Reminded me of this great video on how similar pop songs can be:

I think that some Lana fans are pretty immature too for going to their IG page and spam their comments section...
 
Creep sounds similar to Get Free until the line "I'm a weirdo", and that's it. Maybe they think they deserve more % since that melody is sung twice in Lana's song? And that Lana's song goes kind of silent again at the second verse (just like Creep). And that they both end silently (but Lana's end is soooo much more heavenly ♥).
I dunno, I'm just trying to see it from their perspective and hearing whatever similarities they might hear.

i agree, she is going to win.
 
long analysis below.
 
 
no one song owns 100% of the rights to its chord progression. as far as the creep progression goes, it's far from groundbreaking, it's just a natural voice leading progression on the guitar. anyone arrogant enough to think they invented a chord progression knows nothing about writing music. as far as melody goes, they're only similar in the way that they both sing notes in the scale. 
 
the creep progression is G - B - C - Cm
get free (i should mention, only in its verses and prechoruses) is Bb - D - Eb - Ebm (once it gets to the chorus it's Bb - Gm - Bb - Gm - Bb - C - Bb - C)
 
so they're not even in the same key, they just use the same harmonic progression. but again, who would be arrogant enough to think they own 100% of the rights to that progression? the use of secondary chords can be traced back to the fucking baroque period. 
 
as far as copyright infringement goes, even if it is decided that lana was inspired by creep for the song, the purpose and character of the work is transformative. they are her own lyrics, a very natural melody over those chords if it is decided that it's similar to creep, and completely different instrumentation. even getting 40% of the publishing for get free would be incredibly generous of lana to do, because legally, there's no reason that the songs share any striking similarities compositionally that either party could argue that they "own". lana does not sample creep, she barely even interpolates it. 
 
and even on top of all of this, there's NO logical reason to ask for 100% of the publishing rights on Get Free because they don't fucking own 100% of Creep. After they were sued by the Hollies and lost, Albert Hammond and Mike Hazlewood were given (and still have to this day) writing credits on Creep. they split the royalties.
 
this is just ridiculous to me, and i'm pretty sure radiohead is going to lose this case, bigtime.

I think that some Lana fans are pretty immature too for going to their IG page and spam their comments section...
 
Creep sounds similar to Get Free until the line "I'm a weirdo", and that's it. Maybe they think they deserve more % since that melody is sung twice in Lana's song? And that Lana's song goes kind of silent again at the second verse (just like Creep). And that they both end silently (but Lana's end is soooo much more heavenly ♥).
I dunno, I'm just trying to see it from their perspective and hearing whatever similarities they might hear.

Little witches, join me at midnight London Time // 7pm EST 
Get a paper, write 'Creep' on it. With a red marker.
Get your cauldron with hot water. Put rosemary & thyme and some ruined peaches and then put the paper that has 'Creep' on it.
Then chant the chorus of Get Free while you stream it on Spotify.
 
Oh, and only black outfits are allowed.
 

Okay so as some of you know, I'm studying to be a lawyer and this is what I know:
 
Chord progressions are not protected under the law because they are generally universal products and easy to copy -- it's like if Hershey or Toblerone said that they were the only manufacturers allowed to make chocolate. Radiohead can't sue based on chord progressions. Musical theorists have a saying that "everything is a remix." It's impossible to make a song that has no echo of a past song. The legal standard for copyright infringement is "substantial similarity" which is a relatively hard test to prove. Radiohead's attorneys need to prove that the songs are substantially similar in order to win, if they are going for copyright infringement, which is a lot harder than just proving that the songs are "similar." "Substantial" is the key word. Wasn't Radiohead sued by The Hollies for this song? And they lost? If so, this gives them very unsteady legal ground to stand on. I'll update as I think of more.
 
Update: also, intent doesn't matter much in the context of copyright infringement; whether Lana/Nowels etc. intended (meant) to copy Creep is irrelevant. If the court finds that she did, in fact, copy the song then it won't matter if it was a mistake or not.

lol when you pay attention to Creep lyrics... No wonder...
  "You're so fucking special, I'm a creep"   Men are intimidated by Lana   in·fe·ri·or·i·ty com·plex   I loved that song and still love it though. But the band's attitude...??   

I mean, 40% is a LOT. Of course not as much as 100%, but believing that they would get that is not realistic. Lana was kind enough for offering 40, let's see how this ends. I'm hoping Lana will come out of this as the winner, or at least feeling pleased with the results.

I’m glad that she’s taking the lead and confirming it herself. That’s not good for Radiohead’s image.
 
What I’m not happy about is that some of the comments by Lana stans on instagram or Twitter are... pretty childish.

I know right? Get Free is such a special and important song to so many people and doesn't deserve this treatment

IM SO MAD because this song is so personal and private to her, and she only wanted her fans to know about it. But now it's being taken to court and its making headlines, its so disrespectful to the song and to her music. Its about her trying to be positive and now it just has such a negative back story. FUCK YOU RADIOHEAD IMA HEX THEIR ASSES TONIGHT. :crossed: :crossed: :crossed: :crossed:

omg i literally just said this in my other post.. gorl we're always on the same page! <3

I want candids of Lana turning up to court in a fur coat, louboutins and a full beat face so she looks sickening before cancelling and burying Shithead 

We need to hex Radiohead. Get your candles.

Honestly already imagining what the next album is gonna be like with all this drama going on in Lana's life right now... but on a serious note, I pray our baby girl does well in court. We all know too well how Lana's struggled and fought hard for credibility and respect as an artist since her debut.... this is such a low blow by Radiohead too.

I agree that the melody is similar BUT is only for like a 20 second part and is just a similar chord progression..it's not like it was all plagiated. So Lana's offer of 40% was enough.
Their demand of 100% is just absurd and unacceptable    

The bright side on this is that people will hear the song so...  
And they will lose, if not, I'll riot 

100%???

omg she's going to rant on stage about it at next show then start singing tired of singing the blues I can feel it

Here's the thing: The similarities aren't that noticeable unless someone points it out. I've listened to Creep a thousand times and when I first heard Get Free, I didn't even notice. Sure, the chord progressions are very similar but overall, Get Free sounds entirely different at the same time.
I think this is just Radiohead trying to weave their way back into the spotlight, wether it be by releasing a new album or going so far as to take Lana to court. It's pretty petty if you ask me.