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  1. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by honey dew in Lido di Camaiora, IT @ La Prima Estate - July 2nd, 2023   
    Oh I cant WAIT for the next episode of The Late Late Show with Lana Del Rey!
  2. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by Mer in Somerset, ENG @ Glastonbury Festival - June 24th, 2023   
    Sorry I love Lana but that’s not “cute and quirky” that’s straight up being an asshole. Her fans are young and most of them are splurging a lot to be able to go see her live. If she doesn’t want to be there, she should’ve made that clear before taking money outta their pockets. 
  3. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by ivory almond in Somerset, ENG @ Glastonbury Festival - June 24th, 2023   
    when her first post on @oceanblvd is in typewriter font tomorrow morning then what
  4. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by West Coast in Somerset, ENG @ Glastonbury Festival - June 24th, 2023   
    Give it a rest, I'm saying she's generally unbothered by the industry's standards and whatnot--which is both a good and bad thing. But as far as her shows & professional endeavours, she should just show up on time and give fans the show they paid and waited all day for. Random/last minute stuff can derail a schedule, but it's the third show in a row where she shows up way past her set time, that's no longer an excuse and it's seriously off.
     
    She gave a great performance, but it was shorter than it should've been. End of story. Goodnight!
  5. Pico Ocean Boulevard liked a post in a topic by Future Jazz in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    I definitely agree with @Vertimus: this album is not the social commentary people paint it to be. It’s all about her own life and it can be interpreted in relationship to modern-day society, just like any other album she made can be. There are a few references to the end of the world, but that’s really not enough to make it what it is considered to be. I think even if you tried, it’d very hard to point out even just a few “points” she makes in this album about society. The quality of the album is another question, I personally really like it
  6. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by Super Movie in Most random things Lana's ever done   
    Last summer when she was randomly at an LA lesbian pride event  Me and the other 4 lesbians in the fandom were happy though 
  7. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by West Coast in Most random things Lana's ever done   
    Her baddie era
  8. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by longtimeman in Rob Grant - “Lost at Sea” - OUT NOW   
    The same reason they hate her friends - they think that they are Lana's real family and friend.
  9. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by PARADIXO in [SINGLE] Say Yes To Heaven + Sped Up Remix + 7" Picture Disc - OUT NOW   
    Please why would Boz know how Lana feels about this release 
     
    anyway say YES to smashery
  10. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    I accept that may be the concept, but for me, if that is the concept, then it fails in its goal almost completely. What does 'Love Song' have to do with that? Or 'How To Disappear'? 
     
    On the previous album, LFL , despite a few silly tracks, we had direct political commentary in 'WTWWAWWKOD' and subtler social, or social-political, commentary on 'Change,' 'God Bless AMERICA,' 'Heroin' and 'Get Free,' and references to many aspects of American life, past and present, on '13 Beaches,' 'Love,' 'White Mustang,' 'Summer Bummer,' 'Heroin,' and 'Tomorrow Never Came.' 
     
    What happened with NFR! is that some influential internet critic said, "The entire album is a kind of metaphor for an America in decline," which she or he did not say, as it happens, about LFL, and that sounded really astute to a lot of people, who all began repeating it everywhere, until it became the general consensus whether it actually reflected the individual's own impressions of the album or not.
     
    In this age of the internet, we see this happening again and again, this bandwagon-jumping, like "'Blue' is Joni Mitchell's masterpiece." People who don't know the first thing about Mitchell's 70s work will repeat that--and do repeat it---because it makes them feel in-the-know and part of a movement, however small in the scheme of things. And then, having repeated it a few times, they actually buy a copy and listen to it for the first time, and never bother with any of her other brilliant 70s work, besides which 'Blue' pales. 
     
    It's fine to see it as the album of a "woman with a weak constitution," but she also had a weak constitution on '13 Beaches,' 'White Mustang,' 'The Blackest Day,' 'God Knows I Tried,' 'Swan Song,' 'Pretty When You Cry,' 'Ride,' and several from 'BTD.' 
     
    Don't underestimate the power of 'group think' or 'the hive mind.' We see this every day in our own lives, like, someone asks you where you would like to go for dinner with the rest of the group, and you are the kind of person that immediately says, "Well, where does everyone else want to go? What are others thinking?"
     
    It's just a very extroverted way of thinking, there's nothing wrong with it. 
  11. Vertimus liked a post in a topic by Future Jazz in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    but where do you see the educated nature of her point of view on nfr? i’m genuinely asking because i can’t see it
  12. Vertimus liked a post in a topic by Future Jazz in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    I definitely agree with @Vertimus: this album is not the social commentary people paint it to be. It’s all about her own life and it can be interpreted in relationship to modern-day society, just like any other album she made can be. There are a few references to the end of the world, but that’s really not enough to make it what it is considered to be. I think even if you tried, it’d very hard to point out even just a few “points” she makes in this album about society. The quality of the album is another question, I personally really like it
  13. West Coast liked a post in a topic by Future Jazz in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    but for me, as often with Lana, there is a major contrast between the concept of the album, which is called NFR for the reason you said, and its content which, imo, isn’t political or even social enough to justify the concept. i think that very often she extrapolates, takes things that characterize a few songs and applies them to the album as a whole, like when she said ultraviolence was almost unlistenable, or that many/most tracks on lfl were almost 6 minutes long, or that chemtrails was folky and guitar-based and so on.
    so what i’m saying is that both the fans and the critics agreed to paint out this album to be a social commentary, and imo, there’s just not enough of it for this to be true, when you look at the lyrics. i could find many examples for lyrics on uv or hm that are just as social or relevant to society as “a modern-day woman with a weak constitution”. what this album is, however, is an album about herself and about her love stories, as 95% of the lyrics are solely about that, so that’s what i choose to see it as.
     
    and i don’t think her metaphors or songwriting style makes it more characteristic of an educated person than her previous albums. maybe blue banisters and ocean blvd would, but again, even if there is hope is a dangerous thing, the rest of the album isn’t lyrically outstanding in comparison to her previous work
  14. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by West Coast in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    I get and agree with all of that, but my point still stands, NFR isn't this deep rooted American centric social commentary. Literally not getting that from the vast majority of its songs, besides the obvious titles/references.
  15. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by West Coast in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    A lot of fans romanticize the idea of NFR being this deep social commentary about the modern American society, as if most songs aren't mostly like ''I miss x, y and z''.
     
    The only thing truly ''Americana'' about this album is the title itself, a direct reference to the epitome of Americana, Norman Rockwell himself--but the album has actually very little to do with him. 
     
    This album is mostly about cali vibes and longing/missing a less than perfect relationship, or criticizing your lover, partner, hook up, ex. 
  16. West Coast liked a post in a topic by Future Jazz in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    I definitely agree with @Vertimus: this album is not the social commentary people paint it to be. It’s all about her own life and it can be interpreted in relationship to modern-day society, just like any other album she made can be. There are a few references to the end of the world, but that’s really not enough to make it what it is considered to be. I think even if you tried, it’d very hard to point out even just a few “points” she makes in this album about society. The quality of the album is another question, I personally really like it
  17. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    Firstly, I didn't call "mac, vb, hope, and the greatest" mediocre; I said they were the exceptions to the mediocre songs. 
     
    Secondly, I was an English major and am a published author, so I think I do know what a theme, metaphor, or trope is.  
     
    Thirdly, I was born in the OC in Laguna Beach and know a great deal about California/West Coast culture, especially So Cal. 
     
     
  18. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    I know that's the general, wide opinion of NFR and its 'vision,' but I don't see it. There's a couple very mediocre tracks, the awful 'Next Best American Record' redo, and 'The Greatest,' 'VB,' 'Hope' and 'MAC,' with 'Doin' Time' thrown in at the last minute, and so not really a part of the album's "vision." 
     
    'Hope,' 'VB,' 'MAC,' and 'The Greatest' are all narrated from Lana's POV, so I don't see how she stepped outside of her "realm" or subjective world, or added commentary about loneliness or the decay of the" American Dream." 'Bartender,' 'Love Song,' and 'California' also told from her POV. Where is there a reference to the decay of the "American Dream"?
     
    'The Greatest' is about the end of the entire world, not just America, and it's due to meteors striking the Earth while at least some people have been relocated to Mars. There's nothing in the song about the decay of America. And she's written about the end of the world before, as in 'Last Girl on Earth.' 
     
    'Hope' is very personal, it's about her own madness or mental ill health, how is that a commentary on present-day society? Because some of the standards of 1950s America were constraining for women? But those particular constraints on women were destroyed by the cultural revolution of the 1960s. 
     
    I find all of 'NFR' to be mediocre with the exception of 3 or 4 songs. The mawkish ending of 'How to Disappear' is embarrassing for a songwriter of Lana's stature, and she completely ruined 'Happiness is a Butterfly.' 
  19. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    But none of that is any different than what she did on all her earlier albums. 
  20. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by Lanaparadiserey in Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    I love that he told us something exciting and then gets irritated at us being excited
  21. fishtails liked a post in a topic by Future Jazz in Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    I have no words for how much I love the title track. I really have no words
  22. Future Jazz liked a post in a topic by sunday afternoon in What Are You Listening To?   
    Barbara was an exceptional artist ♥ 
  23. Mash Tragic liked a post in a topic by Future Jazz in Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    I have no words for how much I love the title track. I really have no words
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