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  1. Cry by the beach liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Full agree. ‘Color Blue’ is one of her best and most intimate songs ever. Why does she cut so many great tracks from her albums but release weaker songs like some of those on her last three releases? She’s getting like Tori Amos, who, as the years passed, tended to do the same with her best and brightest compositions, which became B-sides or were saved for compilations.
     
    To me, ‘Color Blue’ has more intimacy and genuine feeling than even ‘Old Money’ and ‘Terrence Loves You.’ And it’s that exact quality that so many artists tend to lose quickly. Before you know it, they’re releasing saccharine power ballads.
     
    I hope we see something like it on NFR.
  2. I Come In Peace liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I think the classic rock lyric and title references in her songs are getting too obvious. They used to be clever and insightful, but now they often seem redundant and lazy. This is one reason I can’t agree that LDR’s lyrics are always sterling.
     
    I mean the “I’m your man / Crimson and clover / Stairway to Heaven / Rosemary and thyme / Hotel California / Ground control to Major Tom” stuff.
  3. I Come In Peace liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I think she tried to do it again with 'Groupie Love,' but it didn't work, at least not for me. 
  4. I Come In Peace liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I'd like to see some pure, fun pop songs on NFR (or whatever it turns out to be), like 'Radio,' 'National Anthem,' 'Making Out,' 'Go Go Dancer' and 'Meet Me In The Pale Moonlight.' I miss her lightness and humor, the clever lines like those in 'Hollywood's Dead,' which seemed to be full of brief but accurate commentaries on what was going on around her. 
  5. honeycookie liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I think the classic rock lyric and title references in her songs are getting too obvious. They used to be clever and insightful, but now they often seem redundant and lazy. This is one reason I can’t agree that LDR’s lyrics are always sterling.
     
    I mean the “I’m your man / Crimson and clover / Stairway to Heaven / Rosemary and thyme / Hotel California / Ground control to Major Tom” stuff.
  6. 13bitches liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I think the classic rock lyric and title references in her songs are getting too obvious. They used to be clever and insightful, but now they often seem redundant and lazy. This is one reason I can’t agree that LDR’s lyrics are always sterling.
     
    I mean the “I’m your man / Crimson and clover / Stairway to Heaven / Rosemary and thyme / Hotel California / Ground control to Major Tom” stuff.
  7. lernerderrey liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I think the classic rock lyric and title references in her songs are getting too obvious. They used to be clever and insightful, but now they often seem redundant and lazy. This is one reason I can’t agree that LDR’s lyrics are always sterling.
     
    I mean the “I’m your man / Crimson and clover / Stairway to Heaven / Rosemary and thyme / Hotel California / Ground control to Major Tom” stuff.
  8. lernerderrey liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I think the classic rock lyric and title references in her songs are getting too obvious. They used to be clever and insightful, but now they often seem redundant and lazy. This is one reason I can’t agree that LDR’s lyrics are always sterling.
     
    I mean the “I’m your man / Crimson and clover / Stairway to Heaven / Rosemary and thyme / Hotel California / Lay lady lay / Ground control to Major Tom” stuff.
  9. Liz Taylor Blues liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    About her songwriting, I agree that it's suffered at least a little. I don't we'll ever get anything as pure or personal as 'Yayo' again, though there were some weak songs on BTD, certainly.
     
    About the time of 'Paradise,' she wouldn't have used phrasing, I don't think, like "People are powerful be-ins" the way she did on 'Change,' which mars the song for me, or the way she sang, on 'Coachella,' "..and what about all their parents" in the inexplicable hard manner she did, which jumps out at me every time I listen to it, which isn't often. 
     
    I wonder where the un-PC LDR has gone, the writer of 'Gods & Monsters,' the more visionary LDR. I like MAC very much, but it does seem 'safe,' 'warm and fuzzy' to me, and at least a slight example of 'virtue signaling.' When we find out how it fits in with the rest of the album, it will probably seem more that way, or less that way. 
  10. American Whore liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I think she tried to do it again with 'Groupie Love,' but it didn't work, at least not for me. 
  11. Venice Jesus Whore liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I'd like to see some pure, fun pop songs on NFR (or whatever it turns out to be), like 'Radio,' 'National Anthem,' 'Making Out,' 'Go Go Dancer' and 'Meet Me In The Pale Moonlight.' I miss her lightness and humor, the clever lines like those in 'Hollywood's Dead,' which seemed to be full of brief but accurate commentaries on what was going on around her. 
  12. ArtDecoDelRey liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I think she tried to do it again with 'Groupie Love,' but it didn't work, at least not for me. 
  13. ArtDecoDelRey liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I'd like to see some pure, fun pop songs on NFR (or whatever it turns out to be), like 'Radio,' 'National Anthem,' 'Making Out,' 'Go Go Dancer' and 'Meet Me In The Pale Moonlight.' I miss her lightness and humor, the clever lines like those in 'Hollywood's Dead,' which seemed to be full of brief but accurate commentaries on what was going on around her. 
  14. ArtDecoDelRey liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I agree, it's one of her most personal and daring songs and places her in Joni Mitchell/Tori Amos territory, but for me, personally, it's not what I look for when I look to LDR.
     
    It's not the rawness and vulnerability that is a slight turn off to me, it's just that musically, I don't find any sort of catharsis in the music or by the end. Objectively, I admire it and can see everything valuable and progressive in it in terms of her songwriting, but subjectively, I don't care for it a great deal.  
  15. ArtDecoDelRey liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    About her songwriting, I agree that it's suffered at least a little. I don't we'll ever get anything as pure or personal as 'Yayo' again, though there were some weak songs on BTD, certainly.
     
    About the time of 'Paradise,' she wouldn't have used phrasing, I don't think, like "People are powerful be-ins" the way she did on 'Change,' which mars the song for me, or the way she sang, on 'Coachella,' "..and what about all their parents" in the inexplicable hard manner she did, which jumps out at me every time I listen to it, which isn't often. 
     
    I wonder where the un-PC LDR has gone, the writer of 'Gods & Monsters,' the more visionary LDR. I like MAC very much, but it does seem 'safe,' 'warm and fuzzy' to me, and at least a slight example of 'virtue signaling.' When we find out how it fits in with the rest of the album, it will probably seem more that way, or less that way. 
  16. 13beachess liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I'd like to see some pure, fun pop songs on NFR (or whatever it turns out to be), like 'Radio,' 'National Anthem,' 'Making Out,' 'Go Go Dancer' and 'Meet Me In The Pale Moonlight.' I miss her lightness and humor, the clever lines like those in 'Hollywood's Dead,' which seemed to be full of brief but accurate commentaries on what was going on around her. 
  17. 13beachess liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    About her songwriting, I agree that it's suffered at least a little. I don't we'll ever get anything as pure or personal as 'Yayo' again, though there were some weak songs on BTD, certainly.
     
    About the time of 'Paradise,' she wouldn't have used phrasing, I don't think, like "People are powerful be-ins" the way she did on 'Change,' which mars the song for me, or the way she sang, on 'Coachella,' "..and what about all their parents" in the inexplicable hard manner she did, which jumps out at me every time I listen to it, which isn't often. 
     
    I wonder where the un-PC LDR has gone, the writer of 'Gods & Monsters,' the more visionary LDR. I like MAC very much, but it does seem 'safe,' 'warm and fuzzy' to me, and at least a slight example of 'virtue signaling.' When we find out how it fits in with the rest of the album, it will probably seem more that way, or less that way. 
  18. LanaFlowers liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I think she tried to do it again with 'Groupie Love,' but it didn't work, at least not for me. 
  19. LanaFlowers liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I'd like to see some pure, fun pop songs on NFR (or whatever it turns out to be), like 'Radio,' 'National Anthem,' 'Making Out,' 'Go Go Dancer' and 'Meet Me In The Pale Moonlight.' I miss her lightness and humor, the clever lines like those in 'Hollywood's Dead,' which seemed to be full of brief but accurate commentaries on what was going on around her. 
  20. Vertimus liked a post in a topic by Say Yes to Heaven in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    Oh, honey. That Lana Del Rey is dead.
  21. honeycookie liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I agree, it's one of her most personal and daring songs and places her in Joni Mitchell/Tori Amos territory, but for me, personally, it's not what I look for when I look to LDR.
     
    It's not the rawness and vulnerability that is a slight turn off to me, it's just that musically, I don't find any sort of catharsis in the music or by the end. Objectively, I admire it and can see everything valuable and progressive in it in terms of her songwriting, but subjectively, I don't care for it a great deal.  
  22. hornymoon liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    I agree, it's one of her most personal and daring songs and places her in Joni Mitchell/Tori Amos territory, but for me, personally, it's not what I look for when I look to LDR.
     
    It's not the rawness and vulnerability that is a slight turn off to me, it's just that musically, I don't find any sort of catharsis in the music or by the end. Objectively, I admire it and can see everything valuable and progressive in it in terms of her songwriting, but subjectively, I don't care for it a great deal.  
  23. hornymoon liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    About her songwriting, I agree that it's suffered at least a little. I don't we'll ever get anything as pure or personal as 'Yayo' again, though there were some weak songs on BTD, certainly.
     
    About the time of 'Paradise,' she wouldn't have used phrasing, I don't think, like "People are powerful be-ins" the way she did on 'Change,' which mars the song for me, or the way she sang, on 'Coachella,' "..and what about all their parents" in the inexplicable hard manner she did, which jumps out at me every time I listen to it, which isn't often. 
     
    I wonder where the un-PC LDR has gone, the writer of 'Gods & Monsters,' the more visionary LDR. I like MAC very much, but it does seem 'safe,' 'warm and fuzzy' to me, and at least a slight example of 'virtue signaling.' When we find out how it fits in with the rest of the album, it will probably seem more that way, or less that way. 
  24. Cacciatore liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    About her songwriting, I agree that it's suffered at least a little. I don't we'll ever get anything as pure or personal as 'Yayo' again, though there were some weak songs on BTD, certainly.
     
    About the time of 'Paradise,' she wouldn't have used phrasing, I don't think, like "People are powerful be-ins" the way she did on 'Change,' which mars the song for me, or the way she sang, on 'Coachella,' "..and what about all their parents" in the inexplicable hard manner she did, which jumps out at me every time I listen to it, which isn't often. 
     
    I wonder where the un-PC LDR has gone, the writer of 'Gods & Monsters,' the more visionary LDR. I like MAC very much, but it does seem 'safe,' 'warm and fuzzy' to me, and at least a slight example of 'virtue signaling.' When we find out how it fits in with the rest of the album, it will probably seem more that way, or less that way. 
  25. I Come In Peace liked a post in a topic by Vertimus in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread   
    About her songwriting, I agree that it's suffered at least a little. I don't we'll ever get anything as pure or personal as 'Yayo' again, though there were some weak songs on BTD, certainly.
     
    About the time of 'Paradise,' she wouldn't have used phrasing, I don't think, like "People are powerful be-ins" the way she did on 'Change,' which mars the song for me, or the way she sang, on 'Coachella,' "..and what about all their parents" in the inexplicable hard manner she did, which jumps out at me every time I listen to it, which isn't often. 
     
    I wonder where the un-PC LDR has gone, the writer of 'Gods & Monsters,' the more visionary LDR. I like MAC very much, but it does seem 'safe,' 'warm and fuzzy' to me, and at least a slight example of 'virtue signaling.' When we find out how it fits in with the rest of the album, it will probably seem more that way, or less that way. 
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