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she will 100% skip FROOT and if she does a reissue it will be horrendous and only maybe contain true colours of all songs. She RESENTS releasing old demos for whatever reason

Interacting with your fans is not the only way to grow a fan base, most artists do by simply making good music. Madonna managed to keep her fanbase engaged for 50 years and all it took was making good music.
 
i feel like we are giving Marina too much leeway, she is absolutely 100% at fault for the wreck that is her career 

Oh if she's skipping an anniversary edition of her magnus opus froot for her flop album that has handmaidens hell on it I'll be livid.

and people on reddit are braindead idiots so for them to be calling her out it means what she’s doing is EGREGIOUSLY bad

last fm is a software that you can connect to iTunes and it basically keeps track of everything you listen to on there. And if you’re on a MacBook every mp3 file you open is opened through iTunes, meaning every mp3 file you open will be tracked by last fm and show up there

me when i dont know how grammar works 

applause’s mediocrity? … yall would say anything 

this should have been the original song. addison alone is not enough to produce something artistically sound because she's vapid shallow and possesses the artistic sensibilities of a coked out anguilla swimming in the thames but maybe if she latches onto talented people she can do something decent like this again 

me when i dont know how grammar works 

also I feel like a lot of people will use this as a way to shield from criticism… like ambient pop is still pop well sorta kinda and people are allowed to not like it without it being their fault because they don’t understand ambient 

also I feel like a lot of people will use this as a way to shield from criticism… like ambient pop is still pop well sorta kinda and people are allowed to not like it without it being their fault because they don’t understand ambient 

Interacting with your fans is not the only way to grow a fan base, most artists do by simply making good music. Madonna managed to keep her fanbase engaged for 50 years and all it took was making good music.
 
i feel like we are giving Marina too much leeway, she is absolutely 100% at fault for the wreck that is her career 

I thought exactly the same.
I think with l+f we were expecting 'why' she was missing so long, some angst and explanation in her music (which is in some outtakes like demons + angels) but she came around with 'enjoy your life! :)' which was disingenuous, and we all knew it, including her. adiaml feels more honest but her writing still isn't up to par, though that's more evident on the political tracks rather than personal ones imo.
I'm not sure she can ever get to MATD levels again but I'd rather be pleasantly surprised rather than let down, she writes best when she's writing from specific* personal experiences or has a theme (adiaml title track springs to mind, and obviously electra heart). (*she admitted she didn't do this for l+f, she wrote 'generally' and why I think her cover of 'only want you' from the era feels like it could have been on the album)
I agree with you, I actually wrote a bit more in my original post but deleted it because it felt too long. but in short, my opinion is to get around the accusations that you're only coming out to 'sell' something is you either make the product good, and therefore it doesn't need selling, or you form a parasocial relationship to sell the product, marina isn't doing either and that's where she's been falling short.
there are successful artists that don't interact with their fanbases at all and just drop music and hide away again, but I think if you didn't start that way it's quite difficult to make the transition, you almost have to make the music twice as good to make up for the lack of interaction, which again, she hasn't been doing and I can't see her doing. (as much as I would like her to bring out a 10/10 album and would be happy to be proven wrong.)

Interacting with your fans is not the only way to grow a fan base, most artists do by simply making good music. Madonna managed to keep her fanbase engaged for 50 years and all it took was making good music.
 
i feel like we are giving Marina too much leeway, she is absolutely 100% at fault for the wreck that is her career 

it baffles me because even though I voted Kamala, I understand why Arabs (Palestinians especially) would not vote for a candidate that's done nothing (or next to nothing) to stop a genocide of their people.

the only place spoiler candidates made somewhat of a difference was michigan. even if all the 3rd party votes miraculously fell in line with the democratic party harris still would have gotten trounced.
establishment dems are pointing fingers at 3rd party voters & trans people & arabs... their lack of introspection and awareness in general is pathetic and (aside from the economy) is undoubtedly one of the main reasons they lost

so we can have more songs be outshined by track 10?

You’re happy Trump won? … okay 
 

NFR was a masterpiece also in part because of the political climate… the entire album is basically about reflecting on your life as the world ends kinda. So maybe we’ll get that again! 

dw lol. Yeah I get it it was such a huge talking point back then too

I was very obviously referring to the criticism Lana received from her songwriting not giving my opinion on it. I don’t think Lasso would send a bad message the same way I don’t think UV sent a bad message 

dw lol. Yeah I get it it was such a huge talking point back then too

Lana has always “sent the wrong signal”… name dropping Harvey Weinstein in Cola, talking about getting drunk with her girlfriends as a teenager, glorifying abuse… like.
 
But also… really? Country music is not inherently racist, in fact the origins of country are to be found in black culture. And she just released a country song featuring a black artist. Of all people, Lana is the one who could pull off a good country album 

But that has always been Halsey though, ever since Badlands. I sort of get what they meant about “main character syndrome” but it’s just strange to point it out on this album.

Lana has always “sent the wrong signal”… name dropping Harvey Weinstein in Cola, talking about getting drunk with her girlfriends as a teenager, glorifying abuse… like.
 
But also… really? Country music is not inherently racist, in fact the origins of country are to be found in black culture. And she just released a country song featuring a black artist. Of all people, Lana is the one who could pull off a good country album 

Lana has always “sent the wrong signal”… name dropping Harvey Weinstein in Cola, talking about getting drunk with her girlfriends as a teenager, glorifying abuse… like.
 
But also… really? Country music is not inherently racist, in fact the origins of country are to be found in black culture. And she just released a country song featuring a black artist. Of all people, Lana is the one who could pull off a good country album