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I was actually surprised when I found out, but I get that he probably has a lot to work through if Black Beauty is about him and all. I feel sorry for him now though, with the whole photographer thing and everything. Has to be hard on him. 

It was Cola.

I like the combination of Jims theory for Ultraviolence. It wasn't ringing true for me that it would simply be about Jimmy Gnecco.
 
The casting of another MM for Shades of Cool has really got me thinking it's a Mike Mizrahi song.
 
I'm getting Arthur Lynn vibes for Brooklyn Baby, and Guns and Roses too. (But maybe they're about Reeve Carney? Did he and Lana ever play a gig together? Do we know anything about their relationship aside from a few photos and a Gramma video?)
 
I don't think the main UV tracks are about Barrie, just Black Beauty and Is This Happiness.

What kind of lies are you telling Jimmy? 
He seems like the "prototype" LDR man because he IS the prototype

Yeah... Just good friends.

Yeah... Just good friends.

I don't wanna sound rude because i obviously don't know anything about their relationship, but i can easily imagine that Lana didn't tell Barrie clearly about the break-up. I mean, sometimes she seems so indecisive, and we already know that she isn't always honest at interviews. Maybe she commits these mistakes in her private life too. 

The girl has hickeys all over and is pictured with happy orgasmic after sex grins on her face... and she is just friends with the guy? Come on! Lana herself declared they broke up.

Yeah... Just good friends.

The girl has hickeys all over and is pictured with happy orgasmic after sex grins on her face... and she is just friends with the guy? Come on! Lana herself declared they broke up.

Yeah... Just good friends.

Damn my pants just broke

What a cunt!!
 

screenshot of the Kathi incident 

Cool! I like that.
 

Wow! This is great findings everyone! Very interesting!
 
another tidbit that stuck out to me like a sore thumb: I also read that Yod like to record his music in one take, never practicing or rerecording as it was more pure and a channel 'direct' from God then. Sounds like someone we know with her practice of recording everything in one take eh?
 
Ah all of this is fitting way too perfectly, have we found the mysterious truth behind Ultraviolence? Lol
 
I think I should make a Source Family mega post because I'm finding more and more connections to other songs and Lana in general as well not just with Ultraviolence. Would you all be interested in that?

DO. IT. I'm so so so interested in this.   

It's probably important to put this here - a song I hated for many years, but now kinda like, and Bryan has shot some nice pics of Lana too.
 

And I like my candy and your Whitman

 
(I still think it's most likely "women".)

He's just surrounded by a bunch of gorgeous women and she acknowledges that. She's not like romantically wanting these women but she loves that he has a bunch of beautiful women around.She's so happy that he's gone because her fatass didn't wanna share.We may have discovered the true meaning of this song.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one lol bear with me here.....
 
So I was watching a documentary about this hippie cult in the 70s in LA called the Source Family. While watching I couldn't help but be slapped in the face with how well it fit in with Ultraviolence. I was connecting dots like a motherfucking pro. I recommend watching it to see what I mean (it's on Netflix USA), or you could read these reviews here to get the gist:..
 
http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/movies/2013/05/09/movie-review-the-source-family-crunchy-cult-story/YAGpjim%202kJkLXDVZSE1xeD29L/story.html
http://thehairpin.com/2013/05/the-source-family
 
Basically Jim Baker was a very handsome, very charismatic, but notoriously violent man that ran away from his wife and child to LA and founded this cult as Father Yod and had many beautiful young men and women join him to live in "peace, love, drugs and rock and roll". He was popular within Hollywood and was very rich and even robbed banks to fund his vegan restaurant, psychedelic band and his "family"..."He basically turned Sex Drugs and Roll and Roll into a religion" is a quote (paraphrasing) from the film. Kinda sounds like the same church Lana would subscribe to...
 
From the doc, the first things that popped out at me were:
 
1) "He used to call me DN that stood for Deadly Nightshade" sounds just like the people in the documentary talking about their hippie names and what they were called in the commune. Names like Galaxy, Orbit, Harvest Moon, Sunflower etc...
 
2) All the references to violence, hitting, etc fit with Jim Baker's history of violence, although I don't know if he was inclined to hit women...
 
3) Quite obviously.... "You're my cult leader" = Father Yod
 
4) The way she's talking about her Jim in the song is nearly identical to former members of the Source describing what it was like to be around their Jim, saying it was like they felt like they were kids again with him being their really cool rich foster dad who smoked a lot of drugs and lived a hedonistic and open lifestyle. The conditions they lived in despite the cult having lots of money, was near squalor with people living in cubby holes and in some instances being denied medical attention and treatment as it went against their beliefs. A child even reportedly died after being denied treatment for an infection. Jim was very strict with all of his commandments despite all the love he had for his "children". He even broke his own commandment of one woman for every one man when he decided to be polygamous and his original cult wife Ah-Om (aka Robin) said she felt as if he "had skinned her alive" when he took 13 wives. His treatment of Robin was very poor but even now she speaks highly of him and that her love for him took on an otherworldly dimension that was out of her control and listening to her talk about him is very similar to how Lana sings about her Jim in UV.
 
I think the inspiration from the Source Family could also bleed into the rest of the album, lending to the Southern California psychedelic surf twang throughout, even referencing the polygamy that was going on in SoC:
 
"And when he calls. He calls for me and not for you"
 
and what Father Yod was all about:..
 
"He prays for love, he prays for peace.And maybe someone new"
 
There might be connections in other songs, I'm still slowly working my way through the album and to be honest I still have the first 5 songs on repeat, so I'm not as familiar with the rest of the album. Oh and I know it probably doesn't mean anything but they reference taking "Black Beauties" in the movie about 10 minutes in.
 
And with this recent instagram selfie with Chuck with the caption "Sister Wives" the Source just fits a little too well:
 
http://instagram.com/p/pF6jVgiZvj/
 
Not only is Sister Wives a polygamy term, they're even dressed like Father Yod's wives. In fact I'd say Lana's really leaning towards a 70s flower child look this era, wouldn't you? Oh and not to mention... Yod/Jim fits Lana's Daddy type to a tee. Heck they even called him that!  (lol Barrie and his beard actually look like a member of the cult tbh)
 
Some pictures....


 
I don't think all songs are necessarily related to the Source but I think Lana may have been heavily influenced by them along with Jim Morrison, Kurt, Chet Baker, Jim Jones, Jim Beam, etc, and from her own life. Especially since the documentary came out in 2012 when she probably would have started to conceive what her next album would be.
 
I also believe that she took influence from her own experience with Atlantic Group and how she relates that to the 70s cult experience. To be honest, sometimes I feel like Lana writes songs like she's posting to Tumblr or Pintrest or some shit. Just name checking all the things that influence her and weaving a story around them. Like she's writing her own fan fiction through songs. Actually I still think all the songs written around "Every Man Gets His Wish" are about Lana's life as if it were blended with the movie True Romance. She even took a picture of her and Mike M. compared to Clarence and Alabama so clearly she is identifying with the Character there. It's basically her own blend of reality and fanfiction. But that's a post for another thread lol... 
 
Anyway before I go on and on, because I could with all these "connections" I found in this doc...Has anyone else seen The Source and what are your thoughts on this?

It's lemonade. So her tears burn. And taste good. And that's how Mike's Hard Lemonade is made

Thank you so much for finding this. Holy shit, this all makes so much sense with the AA.
 
So if it's really Pacific and not Atlantic, then what about Guns and Roses? 
"I can feel it coming in the air tonight, see you working on that blue Pacific"
 
Would that mean Ultraviolence and Guns and Roses are about the cult leader? But on the other hand, New York is on the side of the Atlantic so it doesn't make sense. I'm so confused. 
 
Lana, help us. We know you're sitting at your laptop, sipping your Pepsi Cola and laughing at us like   .

"Ultraviolence" is the title track of Lana Del Rey's second full-length LP.
 
Lana Del Rey said in a Kulturnews interview that the song was about her time in New York when she joined an underground group. It was run by an extremely charismatic guru.
 
From her Grazia interview:
 
"I used to be a member of an underground sect which was reigned by a guru. He surrounded himself with young girls. He thought that he had to break people first to build them up again. At the end I quit the sect."
 
Then, people was saying that either Jimmy Gnecco was the leader of a sect, was participating or it's a different Jim. 
 
Well, I went a little deeper...
 
It is speculated that she is talking about Atlantic Group, a part of Alcoholics Anonymous, which she joined in the past. They were notorious for their cult behaviour and treatment of older men and young women. The Pacific Group (which AG is a branch of) is partly run by a man named Jim.
 
In Google you can find a list of The Cult within AA, where they show "The Wall of Shame" and the names.
There you go:
 
Pacific Group Members:
 
Clancy Imislund
Michael Quinones
Jim Boch
 
Searching a little more you can find an article with an audio of Jim Boch en 2010 where he speaks at Atlantic Group about being sober and the cult.
If you google the name "Jim Boch" you will find a few of small pictures of the guy, and, he looks so much like that man:
 

An Italian romance... Lana likes European men.