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lana's newfound upsurge in creativity >>>>

That's fair. But my whole point is, some of y'all act like what Lana wrote was "These women get a free pass just because they are POC" (Ariana not included, obviously) thereby disregarding, invalidating and overlooking their personal hardships, but also the hardships they experience as minorities, and that's specifically what Lana did not write.

Yes her mom was a teacher and teaching positions are notoriously underpaid and treated like crap int the USA. I don't feel like Lana grew up in a castle. She grew up with fortunate circumstances and comfortably for sure, but to pretend like her dad was a wealthy beyond belief is basically like regurgitating what was said by the very same critics she called out in her letter to the "culture", back when she "first" came on the scene.
 
Which also makes me wonder how Rob felt when people were using that dumb rhetoric to drag Lana early on.

aight bet

she really knew how to make us forget about the last two days! bets on if she deletes in within 24 hours?

the way this thread had 392 pages two days ago...

This discussion explores areas that Lana didn't cover, and I'm sure didn't even think about covering, in her original post.
 
She's literally just expressing frustrations from a personal perspective; seeing other women being celebrated (for the most part, there will always be haters) for being their exuberant, bold, fearless, magnificent self and expressing their womanhood however the fuck they want, but when she did that not so long ago she was dragged through the pits and that's all there is to say.
 
Funny how a week ago y'all were all for Lana expressing pain over Mother's Day and that was somewhat acceptable for a modern woman to say "you know what, Mother's Day is kinda bullshit", but for her to put some perspective and trying to understand why she was hated this damn much the first couple years after she popped on the scene, that's a no no, because she happened to have mentioned other very successful female artists and put some perspective to what she was trying to point out. 
 
This board is, and will forever be, a joke.

This was really beautiful. The background music is so gorgeous. A whole ass mood. I wish it was a song instead of spoken word though. I'm almost ready to forgive her for all the buffoonery and charades. Keep that typewriter under lock and key mama.
 

The way she really snapped with this one and the mood of this poem totally goes with her recent behaviour lmao Lana really said this summer we won't have fun we will be angry and call out the bullshit that's going on in every aspect of our lives PERIODT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

No holds barred I've been sent to destroy, yea

I sadly agree with everything on here. I feel like while trying to push Lana towards creative/artistic highs, there was definitely tension whilst recording/producing Ultraviolence... but I think it paid off. We could argue about the pros and cons of this kind of creative dynamic, but I feel like, like you said, it turned out to be a "once-in-a-lifetime" album. I think they both alluded to fighting over certain aspects of the record, but ultimately dancing together to it.
 
On the other hand, I feel like Jack is the exact of opposite of Dan. He just gives me this "Yes" person vibe. Nothing wrong with that, but like I said earlier that doesn't seem to be very challenging artistically speaking. Hence why I initially felt a little iffy about Jack having his hands all over LDR7, like it was going to be a continuation of the beige sound/aesthetic we had on NFR. Though, time will tell, with Lana's recent Instagram antics... I feel like there is some negative/chaotic energy that's been repressed on her part that she actually will devote into her art. 

I feel like with her recent antics, she needs to find someone that can like push her in the right direction artistically, Jack has proven to be too beige for Lanz. Dan on the other hand, he could legit convey all that negative energy and turn it into fire.
 
I don't want him to turn the current situation into some cringy "Reputation" 2.0 moment. 

I hope she goes live; that'd be super fun about now

I wish Lana had the balls to go live and speak her mind

Yas queen, give us those glamourous 40's/50s aesthetics again and slay us with HM 2.0

It never once crossed my mind that Lana would actually be friends with people that leak her shit.

Not for nothing, I've always held to the belief that one of these days Lana will just go into hiding and become super reclusive and never to be seen or heard of again, no official announcement, nothing. She's always given me that vibe.

I'm just glad Lana didn't develop Stockholm syndrome while being held captive in Win's basement. Poor Win, probably burning all his signed memorabilia one by one some place as we speak...

Giving a whole new meaning to "No holds barred I've been sent to destroy".

I can't believe this whole conversation shifted from "yo Lana's text has racist undertones" to "yo Lana unfollowed some clout-y fan accounts" in the span of 24 hours, this fucking pandemic I swear

I feel like with her recent antics, she needs to find someone that can like push her in the right direction artistically, Jack has proven to be too beige for Lanz. Dan on the other hand, he could legit convey all that negative energy and turn it into fire.
 
I don't want him to turn the current situation into some cringy "Reputation" 2.0 moment. 

I feel like with her recent antics, she needs to find someone that can like push her in the right direction artistically, Jack has proven to be too beige for Lanz. Dan on the other hand, he could legit convey all that negative energy and turn it into fire.
 
I don't want him to turn the current situation into some cringy "Reputation" 2.0 moment. 

I sadly agree with everything on here. I feel like while trying to push Lana towards creative/artistic highs, there was definitely tension whilst recording/producing Ultraviolence... but I think it paid off. We could argue about the pros and cons of this kind of creative dynamic, but I feel like, like you said, it turned out to be a "once-in-a-lifetime" album. I think they both alluded to fighting over certain aspects of the record, but ultimately dancing together to it.
 
On the other hand, I feel like Jack is the exact of opposite of Dan. He just gives me this "Yes" person vibe. Nothing wrong with that, but like I said earlier that doesn't seem to be very challenging artistically speaking. Hence why I initially felt a little iffy about Jack having his hands all over LDR7, like it was going to be a continuation of the beige sound/aesthetic we had on NFR. Though, time will tell, with Lana's recent Instagram antics... I feel like there is some negative/chaotic energy that's been repressed on her part that she actually will devote into her art. 

I feel like with her recent antics, she needs to find someone that can like push her in the right direction artistically, Jack has proven to be too beige for Lanz. Dan on the other hand, he could legit convey all that negative energy and turn it into fire.
 
I don't want him to turn the current situation into some cringy "Reputation" 2.0 moment. 

No holds barred I've been sent to destroy, yea