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I'm pretty sure she called it that herself in one of her interviews. There have been so many that I don't remember which one, though. 

"To be released in 2020"
 
Bartender voice:
 
HA HA HA HAAAA

It's been 24 hours and I can't participate in this conversation because I just don't believe her lmao.
 
I'll come back when we have more info, I suppose.
 
ETA: Okay never mind, I'm back. But I still don't believe her.

This is HILARIOUS.
 
I can't with this bitch ...

It really is feast or famine with this bitch, isn't it?

It really is feast or famine with this bitch, isn't it?

I thought I might as well be really unpopular:
 
I do not like that she's mentioned this new album the same day as she dropped NFR. It makes me very uneasy and I really wish it was all a lie.
 
1. She's definitely working with Jack again, so we can expect more of all of the stuff I just bitched about.
2. She seems almost manic, and of course it's her prerogative, but doing two albums back-to-back + touring + 341232 soundtracks seems like a really great way to burn out.
3. The title, "White Hot Forever" is quite alarming ... I don't even know what to think. I am scared of the unknown.
4. I am downright TERRIFIED of what she's writing about, given her current influences, which include Beverly Hills social climbers and Churchome.

It really is feast or famine with this bitch, isn't it?

Seeing as sis definitely reads here and steals all our brilliant ideas,
 
Sis was on a boat for the NFR cover because the sea represents freedom,etc.
 
So she can take that one step further for WHF and BE. A. MERMAID on the cover:
 

Marina got more important problems. Her last album was horrible and barely sold. It's Lana who needs to help Marina out.
 

 
Taylor isn't a supporter of other woman.
 
 
I was afraid she was going to go into cardiac arrest. She's screaming and crying and hysterical. I love it! 

Idk if you're joking but they're not intentional ... there's an issue with the looping of the jingle bells, and a whole heap of other shit. 
 
I mean you can choose to ignore the technical flaws but they really shouldn't have happened considering how much time they had and how much they all get paid. 

I'm pretty sure she called it that herself in one of her interviews. There have been so many that I don't remember which one, though. 

Idk if you're joking but they're not intentional ... there's an issue with the looping of the jingle bells, and a whole heap of other shit. 
 
I mean you can choose to ignore the technical flaws but they really shouldn't have happened considering how much time they had and how much they all get paid. 

It really is feast or famine with this bitch, isn't it?

I'm pretty sure she called it that herself in one of her interviews. There have been so many that I don't remember which one, though. 

Also how is this album not called BLUE Hot Forever?
 
I still don't feel like it's real. I feel like she'll tweet tomorrow that it's all bullshit or something.

It really is feast or famine with this bitch, isn't it?

that is EXACTLY what I was discussing with @TheBoss. NFR has many technical faults. The one I'm very conflicted about is the outro of Cinnamon Girl. The trap beat is literally a demo.

Just to clarify, I'm not talking about the style of production. I'm talking about technical faults. They are two entirely different things. Technical faults should not exist when we are talking about the work of a multi-million-dollar artist and producer.
 
For example, I like LFL the least of all of her albums, but technically, the production was very good (or, at least, much better than NFR's). It was the style I didn't like.

Just to clarify, I'm not talking about the style of production. I'm talking about technical faults. They are two entirely different things. Technical faults should not exist when we are talking about the work of a multi-million-dollar artist and producer.
 
For example, I like LFL the least of all of her albums, but technically, the production was very good (or, at least, much better than NFR's). It was the style I didn't like.

Why is our girl selling ashtrays? She should be selling LDR vape pens.

I thought I might as well be really unpopular:
 
I do not like that she's mentioned this new album the same day as she dropped NFR. It makes me very uneasy and I really wish it was all a lie.
 
1. She's definitely working with Jack again, so we can expect more of all of the stuff I just bitched about.
2. She seems almost manic, and of course it's her prerogative, but doing two albums back-to-back + touring + 341232 soundtracks seems like a really great way to burn out.
3. The title, "White Hot Forever" is quite alarming ... I don't even know what to think. I am scared of the unknown.
4. I am downright TERRIFIED of what she's writing about, given her current influences, which include Beverly Hills social climbers and Churchome.

There's going to be fightin', but I'm going to say it:
 
Jack Antonoff simply isn't the genius that most of the people here think he is. I'm not saying he's untalented, and he's obvious good at playing a range of instruments, but imo, he tries to be ... pun intended ... Jack of all trades and as a result, I think the production of NFR suffered.
 
There are some very obvious flaws. For example, the vocals in HTD increase in volume noticeably at 1:25 when the jingle bells come in, and that mic change in Cinnamon near the start.
 
There's just a lot of "rookie error" type o' shit, yet these people get paid shitloads and they had plenty of time to fix all of this up.
 
They definitely remastered VB and MAC between their release and the album release. It just seems sketchy as fuck to be remastering two tracks that are less than a year old. The fact that they found stuff they could improve in that amount of time tells me that they didn't do it properly the first time. You remaster 10 years later when the technology has improved; not 12 fucking months later. It screams "mess".
 
I always got the impression that Lanz was very pedantic when it came to mixing and mastering, so I'm surprised she let this shit fly.
 
Jack, I do not love this chord production

There's going to be fightin', but I'm going to say it:
 
Jack Antonoff simply isn't the genius that most of the people here think he is. I'm not saying he's untalented, and he's obvious good at playing a range of instruments, but imo, he tries to be ... pun intended ... Jack of all trades and as a result, I think the production of NFR suffered.
 
There are some very obvious flaws. For example, the vocals in HTD increase in volume noticeably at 1:25 when the jingle bells come in, and that mic change in Cinnamon near the start.
 
There's just a lot of "rookie error" type o' shit, yet these people get paid shitloads and they had plenty of time to fix all of this up.
 
They definitely remastered VB and MAC between their release and the album release. It just seems sketchy as fuck to be remastering two tracks that are less than a year old. The fact that they found stuff they could improve in that amount of time tells me that they didn't do it properly the first time. You remaster 10 years later when the technology has improved; not 12 fucking months later. It screams "mess".
 
I always got the impression that Lanz was very pedantic when it came to mixing and mastering, so I'm surprised she let this shit fly.
 
Jack, I do not love this chord production